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Counterfeit smokes are awesome * 2
    #28486978 - 09/29/23 06:41 PM (8 months, 25 days ago)

Been buying them for a few years and love them. Better quality tobacco imo. $40 a carton vs $150+ for name brand in the store. I'm in Canada and they are pretty plentiful. I used to score them in the park or at a shelter. Both had regular smoke dealers. Have a dealer now that delivers on a bike. I like that my money goes to support local entrepreneurs and native farmers too not big tobacco companies. Mine say made in native territory on them. Anyone else into them?

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Re: Counterfeit smokes are awesome [Re: Mystikal]
    #28487005 - 09/29/23 07:11 PM (8 months, 25 days ago)

That's really cool actually. So people just grow their own tobacco and sell rolled cigs? Is there a filter like normal?


Do you think it's legit? Like zero chemicals sprayed on it? How do you know you're not smoking dried grass sprayed with nicotine?

I'll bet there's some VERY GOOD legit black market cigs, but with a market like that, you're bound to get people faking even the fakes with either inferior or watered down product, no?

I suggest using it in a skin patch to get a buzz. Still not healthy, but so much better and less risky than smoking Lord knows what.

Now, if I had a friend who grew tobacco and sold black market cigs? sure, maybe.. but I don't even smoke


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Re: Counterfeit smokes are awesome [Re: Mystikal]
    #28487011 - 09/29/23 07:18 PM (8 months, 25 days ago)

This completely reminds me of this TV show where these trailer park people devise a plot to smuggle in cigs into Canada using a toy train. It was pretty ridiculous. I could only ever watch that show while drinking.


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Re: Counterfeit smokes are awesome [Re: MegatronX]
    #28487046 - 09/29/23 07:54 PM (8 months, 25 days ago)

There is a filter and they are in a professional looking pack like normal. I suspect it is farmed in the same manner as usual.
Trailer park boys is rad. Have seen it all.

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Re: Counterfeit smokes are awesome [Re: Mystikal]
    #28487047 - 09/29/23 07:56 PM (8 months, 25 days ago)

This needs to be explained more what do you mean counterfeit

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Re: Counterfeit smokes are awesome [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #28487049 - 09/29/23 07:58 PM (8 months, 25 days ago)

They are produced outside the regulatory system. They also mimic some major brands packaging. I get a brand called Playfares in the player's styling.

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Re: Counterfeit smokes are awesome [Re: Mystikal]
    #28487053 - 09/29/23 08:00 PM (8 months, 25 days ago)

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They are produced outside the regulatory system.





Which is great if they are handled properly. But improperly cured tobacco can have mold spores and other stuff you don't want to be smoking. Not to mention:

I've grown tobacco so many times. It's prone to white flies, and other worms/moths where I live, so pesticides are used growing it sprayed onto it. But I don't use any pesticides, just natural neem oil if it gets real bad. Do you really trust people to do the right thing when $$$ is at stake? Think this through with me. 

Do you really trust these growers?

That's still leaps and bounds better than buying some Marlboro cigs that are intentionally sprayed with 100's of chemicals though, right?

Im most cases I'd probably answer yes to that question. But given what's at stake? I wouldn't take the risk.

Personally, I quit smoking no problem(after like 3 years). Just did the gum for a week, weened down, and used a straw for the oral fixation... sure it was slightly uncomfortable to a few days, but looking back on it I'm so glad I quit. One thing to note though, is I only smoked homegrown organic tobacco - so I wasn't addicted to the 100's of chemicals those devil companies spray to get people even more hooked.

Also, I do enjoy a good nicotine buzz from time to time, but I always do a skin patch, or a mouth dip with my own homegrown, and maybe one once a month, if that. When I do it this way, I get an awesome nicotine buzz that lasts for almost an hour, and I save my lungs, and I'm not a daily addict slowly increasing my health risks.

just my 7.6 cents!

Edited by MegatronX (09/29/23 08:09 PM)

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Re: Counterfeit smokes are awesome [Re: Mystikal]
    #28487125 - 09/29/23 08:54 PM (8 months, 25 days ago)

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They are produced outside the regulatory system. They also mimic some major brands packaging. I get a brand called Playfares in the player's styling.



I've had those a few times and they are decent! Same with Putters and DK.
You ever see the bag smokes with the gold band around the filter?


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Re: Counterfeit smokes are awesome [Re: SonicTitan]
    #28487132 - 09/29/23 09:00 PM (8 months, 25 days ago)

Yes I've seen the carton in a bag smokes before. They were even cheaper.

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Re: Counterfeit smokes are awesome [Re: Mystikal]
    #28512046 - 10/20/23 03:58 PM (8 months, 4 days ago)

Bump


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Re: Counterfeit smokes are awesome [Re: GenericHero]
    #28512053 - 10/20/23 04:00 PM (8 months, 4 days ago)

why you gotta be like that? :ohsodevious:

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Re: Counterfeit smokes are awesome [Re: Mystikal]
    #28512054 - 10/20/23 04:01 PM (8 months, 4 days ago)

I'm terribly bored...

There, I gave your op one of those plus thingys. That should cover the damages


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Re: Counterfeit smokes are awesome [Re: Mystikal]
    #28512105 - 10/20/23 04:39 PM (8 months, 4 days ago)

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Been buying them for a few years and love them. Better quality tobacco imo. $40 a carton vs $150+ for name brand in the store. I'm in Canada and they are pretty plentiful. I used to score them in the park or at a shelter. Both had regular smoke dealers. Have a dealer now that delivers on a bike. I like that my money goes to support local entrepreneurs and native farmers too not big tobacco companies. Mine say made in native territory on them. Anyone else into them?




Your money is supporting organized crime. Both Fat Tony and Motorcycle  enthusiasts. These guys killed Dino Bravo

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dino_Bravo


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Re: Counterfeit smokes are awesome [Re: viraldrome]
    #28512131 - 10/20/23 05:01 PM (8 months, 4 days ago)

Yea I'd imagine there are some shady characters involved. I'm hoping the native farmers make good money at this though. I assume they do. They are doing a cool thing undermining big tobacco IMO. They are the original cultivators of the plant so I feel it's their right to sell it how they want.

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Re: Counterfeit smokes are awesome [Re: Mystikal]
    #28512140 - 10/20/23 05:08 PM (8 months, 4 days ago)


The goods

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Re: Counterfeit smokes are awesome [Re: Mystikal]
    #28512150 - 10/20/23 05:18 PM (8 months, 4 days ago)

I don't know about how it works in Canada, but you mentioned something about them being produced on Native land.

I bet it's more a matter of exploiting a tax loophole in first nations territory, and then smuggling the cigs across the country and selling them on the black market.

But shit, man, you can charge like double for them in jail...

(As soon as I saw the title of this thread, I thought of TPB)


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Re: Counterfeit smokes are awesome [Re: viraldrome] * 1
    #28512161 - 10/20/23 05:28 PM (8 months, 4 days ago)

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Been buying them for a few years and love them. Better quality tobacco imo. $40 a carton vs $150+ for name brand in the store. I'm in Canada and they are pretty plentiful. I used to score them in the park or at a shelter. Both had regular smoke dealers. Have a dealer now that delivers on a bike. I like that my money goes to support local entrepreneurs and native farmers too not big tobacco companies. Mine say made in native territory on them. Anyone else into them?




Your money is supporting organized crime. Both Fat Tony and Motorcycle  enthusiasts. These guys killed Dino Bravo

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dino_Bravo




Corporations are organized crime. Probably more organized than organized crime is


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