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That is it!
    #28486780 - 09/29/23 02:25 PM (3 months, 28 days ago)

How do I get rid of the delusions making me feel and think I will become God?

I want out.


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Re: That is it! [Re: Pinkerton]
    #28486835 - 09/29/23 03:16 PM (3 months, 27 days ago)

If you're a program that means you would have to deprogram yourself.


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Re: That is it! [Re: Pinkerton]
    #28486955 - 09/29/23 06:13 PM (3 months, 27 days ago)

maybe becoming god is a good thing,
how does that happen,
or how do you imagine it happening
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so far, no evidence or lots of evidence???


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Re: That is it! [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28486966 - 09/29/23 06:24 PM (3 months, 27 days ago)

Apotheosis gnosis!


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Re: That is it! [Re: BrendanFlock]
    #28487121 - 09/29/23 08:51 PM (3 months, 27 days ago)

that happens every day


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Re: That is it! [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28487147 - 09/29/23 09:14 PM (3 months, 27 days ago)

True and ought too every instant..

Forever?


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Re: That is it! [Re: BrendanFlock]
    #28487182 - 09/29/23 09:42 PM (3 months, 27 days ago)

different players and audience but probably for a long time


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Re: That is it! [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28487333 - 09/30/23 04:47 AM (3 months, 27 days ago)

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redgreenvines said:
maybe becoming god is a good thing,
how does that happen,
or how do you imagine it happening
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so far, no evidence or lots of evidence???



You are not exactly helping me out of this misery. :shrug:


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Re: That is it! [Re: Pinkerton] * 1
    #28487436 - 09/30/23 07:19 AM (3 months, 27 days ago)

right,
i'm helping you inside your misery

your misery has to heal itself from within.


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Re: That is it! [Re: Pinkerton] * 1
    #28487443 - 09/30/23 07:21 AM (3 months, 27 days ago)

According to the film Tron a program can be induced to deny the existence of the Users


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Re: That is it! [Re: Pinkerton] * 3
    #28487561 - 09/30/23 09:19 AM (3 months, 27 days ago)

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How do I get rid of the delusions making me feel and think I will become God?

I want out.




I think I can actually help with this, as this is an OCD fear I had too. This going to sound very counterintuitive and scary at first, but you need to accept that you don't know the answer to your scary question. You have to sit with uncertainty, as opposed to going around and around "trying to figure it out" to a question that you are never going to figure out.

Consider the process of dying is DABDA: Denial, Anger, Bargaining, Depression, Acceptance. Being in denial about your fears will never help you get out of it, so don't do that (denial). Going around and around how frustrating it is that this scary question exists also won't help either (anger). Trying to bargain, obviously is impractical (bargaining). And then moping around and being miserable about it is not productive and moving you forward (Depression).

Best to just accept that you don't know (Acceptance).

That cuts both ways. It could also be true that you won't become God. You don't know either way for 100% certainty.

I know that you feel like you NEED to get an answer to your question, but you're gonna go around in a circle that's only going to fuel your fear.

The sooner you give into not being sure of your question and just sitting in the uncertainty as to its answer, the sooner you can move onto tolerating its uncomfortability.

The key with mental health treatments for obsessive fears is to not force the patient to try to get rid of a pain that won't go away, but to find new ways of coping with the feeling.


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Re: That is it! [Re: solarshroomster]
    #28487609 - 09/30/23 10:33 AM (3 months, 27 days ago)

I support what solarshroomer said


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Re: That is it! [Re: solarshroomster]
    #28487745 - 09/30/23 01:13 PM (3 months, 27 days ago)

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Pinkerton said:
How do I get rid of the delusions making me feel and think I will become God?

I want out.




I think I can actually help with this, as this is an OCD fear I had too. This going to sound very counterintuitive and scary at first, but you need to accept that you don't know the answer to your scary question. You have to sit with uncertainty, as opposed to going around and around "trying to figure it out" to a question that you are never going to figure out.

Consider the process of dying is DABDA: Denial, Anger, Bargaining, Depression, Acceptance. Being in denial about your fears will never help you get out of it, so don't do that (denial). Going around and around how frustrating it is that this scary question exists also won't help either (anger). Trying to bargain, obviously is impractical (bargaining). And then moping around and being miserable about it is not productive and moving you forward (Depression).

Best to just accept that you don't know (Acceptance).

That cuts both ways. It could also be true that you won't become God. You don't know either way for 100% certainty.

I know that you feel like you NEED to get an answer to your question, but you're gonna go around in a circle that's only going to fuel your fear.

The sooner you give into not being sure of your question and just sitting in the uncertainty as to its answer, the sooner you can move onto tolerating its uncomfortability.

The key with mental health treatments for obsessive fears is to not force the patient to try to get rid of a pain that won't go away, but to find new ways of coping with the feeling.



You nailed my situation.

If I am or about to become God does not cause any pain in itself. The racing/intrusive thoughts does but I guess that goes under my schizo diagnosis.


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Re: That is it! [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28487768 - 09/30/23 01:30 PM (3 months, 27 days ago)

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so far, no evidence or lots of evidence???



I have seen crystal clear evidence of paranormality. CRYSTAL CLEAR. Deep down there I know it is true I am or will become God, no matter how lunatic it may sound.


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Re: That is it! [Re: Pinkerton] * 1
    #28487781 - 09/30/23 01:47 PM (3 months, 27 days ago)

I think we are all para-normal, however, it is not encompassing or even an expression of will, more in the way of synchronicity.


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Re: That is it! [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28487783 - 09/30/23 01:50 PM (3 months, 27 days ago)

Well, I guess some are extremely paranormal.


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Re: That is it! [Re: Pinkerton]
    #28487794 - 09/30/23 01:56 PM (3 months, 27 days ago)

what if you'd already been all along whilst still becoming so in some ways & unbecoming so in other ways, too.  This, along with everything else together in and around us simultaneously taken as such, and, if it were as such yet that you'd accomplished that task, or, perhaps if one were too aloof to recognize its paradoxical quality of immanent transcendence regarding actuality as what already always is.

Cosmos/World/Nature/Universe/Mind/Soul/Body/God: the total of all that which is & can & does happen as is (and however else as is not recognizable to mankind in its present condition/situation/state), or was and will be, eventually regardless of anything, due to nature taking its course regardless of anything else, with not a self in sight that can be said to be that can truly do something real enough to make it do something otherwise ~ and, instead, missing it due to miscomprehending, misapprehending, for lack of a better word '... missing it like a blind ass might the obviousness of its own surroundings as encompassing all of that which potentially and actually is. 

What if that was your dealio when it comes to the selfing-goding talk and 'tude and whatnot.  As if you'd merely been fooled into thinking it as being something somewhat or altogether something other than as is since there's a specific(?) story-narrative involved with the the belief of said thing in one's mind or imagination as somehow some sort of other phenomenon mpy yet in play for all and at once by itself emptily yet with plenty of beings to convince themselves otherwise to the fact of.., or something like that. or to that efx?

Either way, it could be like already always having had, or, after having achieving it already but not yet for now at least; or, once you'd accomplished it, evolved via it, enlightened it, and or whateverthefuck ~ however you can turn the wording/phrasing etc ~ rather that it's actually just another name, a word, a set(s) of sound(s), basically...form.... one of many of which things that there are in our world of things...

What would you say that 'The World' is, even?

if you're an expression of primordiality, of nature itself even, right here & now - always & already, and, as such - so am I and everyone else who was, is , and or will be.  All Humans It, and, It is any, every, and all Humans, or all of sentient beings in general whatsoever really, who are also undergoing evolution/goding via nature naturing or just The Universe Kinda Just So Happens to Be Doing Its Thing All The Time, and, Doing Said Thing All At Once, everywhere, Thatish? ~ Is that at all what you're referring to in anyway whenever you get on one about this whole 'god complex' thingy? (/if not, what? mentally more easily comforting to believe in that over sheer extinction?

And or any & all number of things otherwise wrt considering all potentially possible things could lie as so in-between the two, etc)

Is it in anyway shape or form something more or less as I seemingly made it out to possibly be?

And I mean this as emptily as possible, as in, with respect to the truly universal quality of emptiness in regards to all things of nature, however, not so completely empty of everything all of the time all at once that we couldn't even be having this conversation in the first place whatsoever at all, capeesh?

With that said -

Just...
Nature,
the World, 
The Universe,
or,
The Primordial Cosmos,

Whatever it still is and isn't both at once even if when we can't say it one way or the other:

Essentially =  Transformation ( Energy : Nature )
As in, Natural Nature Naturing Naturally,
Or, Nature4:strokebeard2:


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Re: That is it! [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28488536 - 10/01/23 08:02 AM (3 months, 26 days ago)

I am starting to wonder how much you really know about this ordeal, RGV's.


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Re: That is it! [Re: Pinkerton]
    #28488716 - 10/01/23 10:53 AM (3 months, 26 days ago)

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redgreenvines said:
so far, no evidence or lots of evidence???



I have seen crystal clear evidence of paranormality. CRYSTAL CLEAR. Deep down there I know it is true I am or will become God, no matter how lunatic it may sound.




what have you seen? i'm interested in this stuff too


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Re: That is it! [Re: Pinkerton]
    #28488922 - 10/01/23 01:59 PM (3 months, 26 days ago)

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I am starting to wonder how much you really know about this ordeal, RGV's.



nada


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Re: That is it! [Re: Pinkerton]
    #28488927 - 10/01/23 02:07 PM (3 months, 26 days ago)

Denying the existence of your programmer really seams to be the only clear direction so far.


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Re: That is it! [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #28489076 - 10/01/23 04:35 PM (3 months, 25 days ago)

What’s the whole ‘becoming god thing’ supposed to be about anyways?  I don’t get it.


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Re: That is it! [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #28489087 - 10/01/23 04:46 PM (3 months, 25 days ago)

I think he bumped his head really hard a couple of times.


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Re: That is it! [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #28489092 - 10/01/23 04:50 PM (3 months, 25 days ago)

Ouch.


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Re: That is it! [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #28489104 - 10/01/23 05:00 PM (3 months, 25 days ago)

Battering of heads appears to be a common risk in youthful circles


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Re: That is it! [Re: Pinkerton]
    #28489882 - 10/02/23 10:49 AM (3 months, 25 days ago)

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Pinkerton said:

How do I get rid of the delusions making me feel and think I will become God?

I want out.




That's just Satan messin' with you  :satan:


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Re: That is it! [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28489891 - 10/02/23 10:54 AM (3 months, 25 days ago)

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Quote:

Pinkerton said:
I am starting to wonder how much you really know about this ordeal, RGV's.



nada



So you know nothing about me being or becoming God?


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Re: That is it! [Re: Pinkerton]
    #28489929 - 10/02/23 11:52 AM (3 months, 25 days ago)

I accept it is a side trip or an obsession which is valid to you personally.
I take it more as a metaphor for existence in general, in which case you already became god and may be having trouble assessing what that means to yourself and to anyone else.
We each have a personal relationship with our own existence.


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Re: That is it! [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28490597 - 10/03/23 05:33 AM (3 months, 24 days ago)

i'm sure your thoughts and feelings have a reason and a purpose for you and your life. but in order to observe, understand and integrate them properly, you need to distance yourself from them at least a little. if RGVs meditation technique doesn't work, maybe you can find another way to go.


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Re: That is it! [Re: epilectric]
    #28490600 - 10/03/23 05:45 AM (3 months, 24 days ago)

Hey, he is not using my technique, but what he has used has given him a better immersion into moments of experiencing, my influence here has just been to go into the moment rather than attempting to flee.


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Re: That is it! [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28490625 - 10/03/23 06:39 AM (3 months, 24 days ago)

i hope so!

bad wording on my side

but why not flee forward...


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Re: That is it! [Re: epilectric] * 2
    #28490662 - 10/03/23 07:21 AM (3 months, 24 days ago)

Please do run for the joy of it, but fleeing from what is feared does not work in the mind.
Opposition mentally is a connection to the idea that is mentally opposed, so mental escapism becomes a further binding experience, not an escape at all.
in physical life running can be great, and fleeing murderers can be life or death.


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Re: That is it! [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28491236 - 10/03/23 05:05 PM (3 months, 23 days ago)

it's true


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Re: That is it! [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28491833 - 10/04/23 08:26 AM (3 months, 23 days ago)

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I accept it is a side trip or an obsession which is valid to you personally.
I take it more as a metaphor for existence in general, in which case you already became god and may be having trouble assessing what that means to yourself and to anyone else.
We each have a personal relationship with our own existence.



You are just writing in riddles. No meat. :shrug:


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Re: That is it! [Re: Pinkerton]
    #28491859 - 10/04/23 09:05 AM (3 months, 23 days ago)

You'll never be happier imo, there's nothing to gain from changing your programming. Sure you want the 3.5 kids, wife and mortgage but that's all in your head. You're happier now.


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Re: That is it! [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #28491869 - 10/04/23 09:24 AM (3 months, 23 days ago)

No. I do not want a normal life.

What I want is to consume drugs without going nuts.


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Re: That is it! [Re: Pinkerton]
    #28491877 - 10/04/23 09:31 AM (3 months, 23 days ago)

Perhaps a volunteer from the audience would like to trade circumstances with you, wake up in your mind and you in there's. Is this entertaining to you?


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