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Tripping and the Occult
    #28486473 - 09/29/23 07:25 AM (3 months, 28 days ago)

Anyone here have experiences/opinions they would like to share about this subject. Recently i have been following the teachings of Damien Echols on youtube and find it all quite interesting.


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Re: Tripping and the Occult [Re: The Patient] * 1
    #28486507 - 09/29/23 08:19 AM (3 months, 27 days ago)

The lake is deep. Occasionally I get to see beyond the ripples on the surface.


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Re: Tripping and the Occult [Re: The Patient] * 1
    #28486691 - 09/29/23 11:41 AM (3 months, 27 days ago)

It's definitely a deeply fascinating intersection of topics.
Viewing the psychedelic experience (and life in general) through the lense of the occult can lead to some interesting thoughts & experiences.
I found Damiens book "High Magick" is a great jumping off point to begin understanding, conceptualising & practising basic but solid rituals and concepts from the Western mystical traditions.
Since you like Damiens youtube, I also recommend the first episode of DTFH with him on (that made its way onto the show Midnight Gospel in the Cat Captain episode)such a great conversation that I've went back to many times over the last few years.

As with music, spirituality, psychedelics, ecology -I suppose anything really- I think a lot of occult concepts & lessons are best understood alongside practically applying them in daily life, such as in the practise of magic.
You can practise meditation without magic but you can't practise magic without meditation.
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Here are a few bits I like in regards to the occult that could serve useful for someone looking to combine magic practise and psychedelics at any point.

Glitch Bottle with Josephine McCarthy on nature magic
OEITH The terrors of awakening
Sacred path of the Warrior
Total I Ching
Magic: White and Black
Liber Kaos
Bardo Thodol
Hermetica


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Re: Tripping and the Occult [Re: Lithop] * 1
    #28487019 - 09/29/23 07:29 PM (3 months, 27 days ago)

Thankyou Lithop for you're in depth response, I have always been drawn to this topic and try to apply magic and meditative practises to everyday life.


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Re: Tripping and the Occult [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #28487020 - 09/29/23 07:30 PM (3 months, 27 days ago)

Likewise brother :grin:


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Re: Tripping and the Occult [Re: The Patient]
    #28488426 - 10/01/23 05:43 AM (3 months, 26 days ago)

Can anyone recommend me some musicians who incorperate occult studies into their music.. i know a few obvious ones like led zeppelin,tool,earth etc


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Re: Tripping and the Occult [Re: The Patient]
    #28490485 - 10/02/23 11:07 PM (3 months, 24 days ago)

I think drugs can show you deeper majix.


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Re: Tripping and the Occult [Re: BrendanFlock]
    #28490531 - 10/03/23 01:31 AM (3 months, 24 days ago)

I think certain drugs can unlock new perspectives we couldnt reach otherwise.


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Re: Tripping and the Occult [Re: The Patient]
    #28542982 - 11/14/23 05:20 PM (2 months, 12 days ago)

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The Patient said:
I think certain drugs can unlock new perspectives we couldnt reach otherwise.




Tripping on various substances allows you to achieve "gnosis" much easier, they call it "chemignosis"... which is the state in which you are most able to perform magickal acts. The thing people don't understand is that shamans are actually a form of magician or witch doctor.

Damien practices ceremonial in the western hermetic tradition of magick. He's part of the oto, founded by Aleister Crowley. Ceremonial magick is really interesting but is also very rigid in its structuring. I personally mive more with chaos magick ideologies. Which is more of a "diy" kind of magick, however I still incorporate some western magick in there. His stuff is a great place to start for beginners. I'd look into some other people too though. The book "Condensed Chaos" by Phil Hine is a wonderful resource. You should also check out "The whole rabbit" podcast. The hosts are young magicians/ witches / wizzards that as super fuckin funny and also very smart and knowledgeable. They're also into psychedelics and have lots of stories about tripping. They have entire podcasts about using drugs in magickal practice. Glad I came to this part of shroomery, this was the kind of thread I was looking for just now.


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Re: Tripping and the Occult [Re: cornwallacediggler]
    #28544425 - 11/15/23 06:34 PM (2 months, 11 days ago)

Yeah my introduction to this subject was through watching a lecture about chaos magic by Grant Morrison and how he incorporates sigils into his comic books and had some pretty wacky results.


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Re: Tripping and the Occult [Re: The Patient]
    #28552051 - 11/21/23 08:04 PM (2 months, 5 days ago)

I have a copy of the invisible. It's awesome! The idea if hypersigils like what Grant Morrison did with his comics is wild!


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Re: Tripping and the Occult [Re: cornwallacediggler]
    #28557828 - 11/26/23 10:16 PM (2 months, 8 hours ago)

He's kinda like Eckart Tolle in that he is recycling a lot of old ideas in a way that makes them attractive to modern audiences.


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Re: Tripping and the Occult [Re: CrayolaHalls]
    #28557871 - 11/26/23 11:47 PM (2 months, 7 hours ago)

I think the key to occult study is intentions..

Intentions can become real is the law of Magick.

Then you learn the true meaning of everything through your occult perspective..

Then you learn the force.. the ability to alter the laws of physics..


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Re: Tripping and the Occult [Re: BrendanFlock] * 1
    #28557908 - 11/27/23 01:45 AM (2 months, 5 hours ago)

I learned today that everything, every object has a magical value and potential.

Everything is a sigil.

But to what it is communicating is a hard thing to understand..


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Re: Tripping and the Occult [Re: BrendanFlock]
    #28560191 - 11/28/23 10:58 PM (1 month, 29 days ago)

Quote:

Damien Echols teaches the rituals that helped keep him whole on Death Row






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Re: Tripping and the Occult [Re: Lithop] * 1
    #28560396 - 11/29/23 07:03 AM (1 month, 29 days ago)

Interesting sources, Lithop.

from Magic, white and black




This looks to be following in depth aspects of elementals that took me in the spiritualist books about the afterlife. I might be reading this thing. Score!


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Re: Tripping and the Occult [Re: syncro]
    #28560855 - 11/29/23 02:11 PM (1 month, 28 days ago)

Yeah that one looks interesting.

Magic is reels y'all. The universe is sustained by it, not "laws" as such.


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Re: Tripping and the Occult [Re: lostintimenspc]
    #28563218 - 12/01/23 02:15 AM (1 month, 27 days ago)

The first two chapters are like moral penance and generalities that are known, very wordy and hard to get through.

Chapter three is getting better.



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Re: Tripping and the Occult [Re: syncro]
    #28563274 - 12/01/23 03:42 AM (1 month, 27 days ago)

Knowledge of alchemy helps in studying the occult..

Hidden images, emblems of masks unseen and unbeknownst to the public auction..

Everything thing you do with a person or thing is an exchange! Whether its of verbal cues.. language developed.? Or even un(sub)consciousness.

Whether its the rate that you understand this energy exchange..

Energy is love.. if kept in its right direction.

Love is free.

Christ be with you.. christos white magic.. sometimes calls for anarchy..


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Re: Tripping and the Occult [Re: BrendanFlock]
    #28578419 - 12/11/23 10:35 AM (1 month, 16 days ago)

"Why do we not rest at once?"
"When you lay down these burdens!"
"How does the small join itself to the big?"
"When you abandon the works which will not be able to follow you,
then you will rest."
-from the Sophia of Jesus, Nag Hammadi - actually the Dialogue of the Savior

In that light, then looking at that which will not be able to follow, in a flash I was not able to discern - nothing was found, or that which cannot follow, is nothing. In that instant was tathata imo/e. Credit to the words which cause it for anyone.


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