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LyleChipperson


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I got a size 0 press and caps as there were no other options locally. Spent a couple hours and put everything I had in capsules, but it was difficult to get an accurate measurement for dosage. I have 2 0.1 g scales and I couldn't get a reliable reading on either with anything less than 10 caps. It turned out that even using 10 caps wasn't accurate enough as the calculations based on that lead to missing 4-7 g when comparing the dry total before grinding and after filling. In the end I weighed the entire batch which took just under half of one cap pack and compared it to the weight of the other half of the empty caps, and the calculation came out to more material being packed in than I had before grinding So I gave up on trying to be super accurate and I'll just count the caps as 0.35-0.4 g each and leave it at that.
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AlexandrDughin
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So it took you about 1 month and 1 week +-, from spores to harvest, right ?
I'm asking this because i also intend to grow some GT's from spores that i finally managed to get here.
Problem is i will have to travel away for 1 week near the end of this month.
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LyleChipperson


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I just harvested 4 more cakes and I have 3 left, they should be good to go tomorrow.
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AlexandrDughin said: So it took you about 1 month and 1 week +-, from spores to harvest, right ?
I'm asking this because i also intend to grow some GT's from spores that i finally managed to get here.
Problem is i will have to travel away for 1 week near the end of this month.
No, it took about a month for the jars to be colonized. Then another month from the point I birthed them to get 3 flushes.
If you prepare your jars in the next few days, colonization should take you about until the end of the month if everything goes ok. You can birth the jars after you come back from your trip, but from that point on you'll have to keep an eye on them. Keep in mind that it may take you more or less time than it did for me, but the cakes will be fine if you leave them in the jars for a few extra days after colonization + consolidation.
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LyleChipperson


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It's time to wrap up this grow.
9 cakes of 225 ml jars with 3 flushes + 1 cake with 2 flushes gave me ~ 870 g wet, 56.2 g dry.
I will probably get a 4th flush, but it will be too small to matter. The only reason I still keep the cakes around is because I'm waiting on my grain jars and B+ pf tek jars to colonize so I can move on to them.
This GT I have seems to be a slow-ish colonizer with average yields and potency, so I'll be looking for better genetics for the sake of efficiency.
Now it's time to focus almost entirely on agar. My agar work so far turned out to be mostly transferring bacteria around, so I only had 3 potentially clean plates for transfers. I broke 1 plate accidentally today, so I'll be taking 5 transfers each from the remaining 2 plates to hopefully get enough inoculant for more grain jars soon, since it's very likely that the plates I used for my currently colonizing grain were also contaminated.
I will also start 4 new plates with my own spore prints, but they will probably take a while to clean up. I'm looking forward to getting access to the marketplace at the end of this month to see if I can source some better genetics and other varieties and species.
The goal is to get and keep around enough clean inoculant with good genetics so I can do 1-2 small scale grows per year to cover my needs.
I would like to thank everyone who took their time to comment and offer me advice, you were all very helpful and I appreciate that. I will stick around to pester you with more questions as things move along
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Way
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Nice job man. Congrats on a successful first grow again.
Did you end up trying to clone any fruits? I'd really recommend that if it's not too late. I had a really hard time getting my first clean culture and then I took a clone and I instantly had a culture that was clean and genetically viable.
Definitely a faster way to clean genetics than taking spore prints from fresh fruits. If you take multiple clones you'll get different results as well so you can just grow out each of them and pick which ones work best for you.
Good luck on whatever the future holds for you and I'll be watching your next grows.
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LyleChipperson


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Re: First grow GT PF Tek [Re: Way]
#28576972 - 12/10/23 12:27 PM (1 month, 17 days ago) |
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Thank you, Way. I'm excited to try out new species and varieties, but I'll have to improve my agar work until then to make sure I'm not just wasting my time.
I wanted to get clones from the second and third flush, but life kept getting in the way as I was quite busy right around picking time for both flushes, and I didn't have plates prepared in time. I wasn't sure if it's OK to take clones from shrooms that were kept in the fridge for several days so I didn't try it.
Most of my prints are very sparse, either my shrooms don't make that many spores or I didn't keep them around long enough before picking. The other day I prepped 2 syringes, one 20 ml and one 10 ml to try out Bod's spore syringe tek and it took me 6 whole prints to get them to a point where you can see a lot of tiny clusters in there. I tried out using my syringes on agar 2 days ago to get more starting dishes but most of the plates don't have any signs of growth yet and the ones that do are bacterial, they look yellow-ish when viewed from the bottom. It seems like I'll have more free time now so I'll prepare plates once the 4th flush is ready and I'll take as many clones as I can. I want to get a shoebox grow going so I can move on to that method and make enough caps at least for a year ahead. I'd like to be able to focus on getting better genetics so I have to get the supply issue out of the way first.
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Way
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I totally feel that. You are safe to use fruits that have been kept in the fridge for several days though. The interior of the fruit will still be sterile when removed from the fridge.
You may have more success with spores if you start utilizing sterile swabs. You can buy 100 packs of them on amazon for under 10 bucks and all you need to do is swab the cap and then swab the agar. That should get you a much cleaner sample than trying to mess around with caps that you can't get to print and spore syringes. You can also swab fruits and store the swabs for future use as well. Swabs are pretty kickass imo and less work.
If your aseptic procedure is on point when you take your clones, all you should have to do is a single transfer (just for good measure) and then you can be ready to inoculate more grain. You'll be ready to start a new shoebox in a couple of weeks going that route. With spores you have to wait for germination as well as multiple transfers to clean them up usually.
Your supply issue will sort itself out very fast with one or two good shoeboxes. If you have any passion for this hobby at all, you'll quickly end up drowning in mushrooms. A lot of us just grow for fun at this point and don't even keep the fruits around any more.
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LyleChipperson


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Re: First grow GT PF Tek [Re: Way]
#28583836 - 12/15/23 11:05 AM (1 month, 13 days ago) |
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One cake surprised me with a couple pins that started growing immediately after the third flush, so I tried to take 10 clones today. We'll see how that goes.
Other than that all the transfers I made from my cleanest looking plates went bacterial, along with the plates where I tried a drop of my own syringe, so I'm emptying all of them and I'll be waiting on the clones only. I'll hopefully have some new genetics arriving soon so that will be the next step. In the meantime I'll look for swabs, they definitely seem a lot less fussy to use.
Edit to add: My grain jars are looking bacterial AF, I shook them at around 80% since they were going very slow and after that they got a lot more condensation than before, now it's all over the jars. If they manage to colonize 100% I'll probably put them in 2-3 shoeboxes just to see if I can get anything out of them, but I'm not putting any hopes on that.
Edited by LyleChipperson (12/15/23 11:09 AM)
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