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InvisibleLyleChipperson

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Re: First grow GT PF Tek [Re: meta_mmxxii]
    #28532457 - 11/07/23 01:01 AM (2 months, 20 days ago)

I looked up the petri teks and I've done 2 batches in the oven at 180c for an hour.

These guys appeared overnight.



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Re: First grow GT PF Tek [Re: LyleChipperson]
    #28532623 - 11/07/23 07:55 AM (2 months, 20 days ago)

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LyleChipperson said:
I looked up the petri teks and I've done 2 batches in the oven at 180c for an hour.

These guys appeared overnight.





congrats soon you will have many!


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InvisibleLyleChipperson

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Re: First grow GT PF Tek [Re: meta_mmxxii]
    #28535216 - 11/09/23 07:51 AM (2 months, 18 days ago)

All the cakes now have pins and I'm misting twice per day. I probably kept the cakes a bit drier than I was supposed to before the pins, but I found that they can take more sprays before the drops start to merge and become too big. The added jar was the last one to be colonized and I didn't want to make a mess with coir just for 1 cake, so I only cased the top and put it in with the others.



On the agar front, I now have some T2 transfers from my best petri inoculated with the same GT that I used for the cakes. The growth on agar sucks so far, but I'm doing the best I can until I can get a spore print off this current grow.

All of the T1 transfers look like this, the T2s are from yesterday and the day before so no growth yet.



I did a test run of inoculations with my B+ spore syringe and so far it's a complete disaster. Some plates are still completely empty, every other one has been a bacterial mess. No mycelium in sight. I'm inclined to blame the syringe, my technique with agar may not be up to par yet, but I am able to get some clean plates with the transfers.


Edited by LyleChipperson (12/05/23 01:38 PM)


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InvisibleLyleChipperson

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Re: First grow GT PF Tek [Re: LyleChipperson]
    #28536640 - 11/10/23 06:58 AM (2 months, 17 days ago)

I guess I should have put the cakes on some aluminum foil, a lot of them started growing pins out of the bottom and heading towards the water. I turned over 2 cakes since they were way more developed on the bottom than the top side, but a pin broke off the second cake so I won't risk moving the other ones. Instead I'll just pay attention that the shrooms don't touch the water and harvest them before that happens. The pin that broke off was my first taste of a fresh shroom and I was expecting something a lot worse... it just tasted like a regular mushroom.


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Re: First grow GT PF Tek [Re: LyleChipperson]
    #28536665 - 11/10/23 07:16 AM (2 months, 17 days ago)

Quote:

LyleChipperson said:
I guess I should have put the cakes on some aluminum foil, a lot of them started growing pins out of the bottom and heading towards the water. I turned over 2 cakes since they were way more developed on the bottom than the top side, but a pin broke off the second cake so I won't risk moving the other ones. Instead I'll just pay attention that the shrooms don't touch the water and harvest them before that happens. The pin that broke off was my first taste of a fresh shroom and I was expecting something a lot worse... it just tasted like a regular mushroom.





Man, I wish i had your tastebuds.


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InvisibleLyleChipperson

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Re: First grow GT PF Tek [Re: Advil_Liquigels]
    #28536993 - 11/10/23 11:01 AM (2 months, 17 days ago)

It was unexpected, I’m usually sensitive to earthy and bitter flavors and I tasted nothing like that.

Progress pics


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Invisiblemeta_mmxxii

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Re: First grow GT PF Tek [Re: LyleChipperson]
    #28537001 - 11/10/23 11:07 AM (2 months, 17 days ago)

Mushrooms are delicious!


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Re: First grow GT PF Tek [Re: meta_mmxxii]
    #28537011 - 11/10/23 11:16 AM (2 months, 17 days ago)

:chefskiss:

Killing it man!


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InvisibleLyleChipperson

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Re: First grow GT PF Tek [Re: Way]
    #28538690 - 11/11/23 12:46 PM (2 months, 15 days ago)

The caps of the first pin cluster that grew opened already, it seems too early as most of them are still very small. Researching the possible reasons now.



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Re: First grow GT PF Tek [Re: LyleChipperson]
    #28538699 - 11/11/23 12:54 PM (2 months, 15 days ago)

Genetics, conditions, or contamination.

Your conditions look pretty good.
BRF is pretty contamination resistant and your jars looked decent.

I'd chalk it up to genetics and keep going. Likely you'll get bigger ones on the next flush anyway. Congrats on the shrooms!


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InvisibleLyleChipperson

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Re: First grow GT PF Tek [Re: Way]
    #28538775 - 11/11/23 01:53 PM (2 months, 15 days ago)

Thank you! I'll wait until morning to check for other open caps and harvest them. Tomorrow I'll be working on another pf tek setup for a fellow enthusiast, so the timing would be perfect :mushroom2:

Edit: I looked around for pictures of other PF Tek flushes to get some perspective and it seems that my shrooms aren’t that small and the flush is pretty close to being done. I got a closer look and I can already see new tiny pins starting to form on most cakes.




Edit again:  Am I supposed to dunk the cakes after harvesting the first flush or will that tear away the coir?


Edited by LyleChipperson (11/11/23 03:47 PM)


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InvisibleLyleChipperson

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Re: First grow GT PF Tek [Re: LyleChipperson]
    #28539622 - 11/12/23 12:46 AM (2 months, 15 days ago)

Harvested the first flush, 478g wet.


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Re: First grow GT PF Tek [Re: LyleChipperson]
    #28539634 - 11/12/23 01:10 AM (2 months, 15 days ago)

That is a good looking watertub.  Yeah you can dunk and roll again. If some coir falls off its fine as long as you replace it. :thumbup:


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InvisibleLyleChipperson

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Re: First grow GT PF Tek [Re: Way]
    #28551652 - 11/21/23 02:24 PM (2 months, 5 days ago)

The first flush ended up as 33g dry after 26 hours in the dehydrator.

I gave it a small test at home with 1g dry and had a light to moderate trip lasting about 3 hours. I tried to watch a live show I like but couldn't pay much attention. I noticed slight visual effects in the blown out lights that were lighting the show stage. I stopped the show and just thought about stuff and paid attention to how I interpret my thoughts. It was like a dial was turned up - negative thoughts had a higher potential of making me go into a negative direction and be affected emotionally, same with positive thoughts giving me more positive emotions. Then I spent some time petting my dogs and giving them affection, which gave me even more positive energy than usual. For most of the trip I was lying down or sitting as I wasn't sure how it would affect my motor skills, but I got tired of that and spent the last hour of the trip taking a brisk walk on my treadmill and listening to music. I found that I can move well and felt very in tune with my body. I workout regularly and noticed how I can feel every muscle activating and working when I moved around, as well as noticing even slight changes in my posture.

The aftereffects have been very positive so far - decreased hypervigilance/social anxiety, inreased capacity to feel positive (and negative) emotions. This is very important to me as I had to adapt to a negative environment growing up by shutting down my emotions and as a result I have been very disconnected from them for most of my life. I hope I can get away soon and try a 2 or 2.5g dose in a more isolated location so I can relax and not worry about anyone interrupting me. There is a lot more progress to be made and now I firmly believe that the shrooms can help me get to where I want to be.

The second flush is coming along, but it's more uneven so I guess I'll have to keep the dehydrator running and do it in several batches. First flush of the cased jar is almost here as well. Here's how things are looking at the moment:



I wanted to give grain a try as I have a couple petris with clean growth and I have to use them soon. I tried this rye tek https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/12968910 but my grain was done after the initial 15 min boil and 2 hour soak. It's probably overdone as I had quite a few popped grains. Even if it fails, I'll go ahead and use 1-2 petris for 5 smaller jars just to go through the motions and be better prepared for the next attempt.


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Re: First grow GT PF Tek [Re: LyleChipperson]
    #28551707 - 11/21/23 03:08 PM (2 months, 5 days ago)

Nice, I'm glad the trip worked out for you. Don't forget you can save fresh shrooms in a paper bag in the fridge for up to a week or so. That will allow you to save them and run more in a dehydrator batch if you want.

You're on the right path. For a no soak rye prep, I've had great success with this tek. Some burst grains can make the shake a bit harder but really isn't a big deal :thumbup:


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InvisibleLyleChipperson

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Re: First grow GT PF Tek [Re: Way]
    #28553875 - 11/23/23 10:34 AM (2 months, 4 days ago)

Second flush is done, 194 g wet. Loaded up the dehydrator and I'm expecting about 10g dry.

Since the slowest cake is still taking its time growing the first flush, I moved all the spent cakes below the rack and added more water to submerge them completely. This time I'll let them soak for 24 hours as I think that the 3 hour soak I did wasn't enough. The cakes dried out quicker when compared to the first flush. Hopefully I'll get a bit more out of them as I still have to keep the tub going for the cased cake.

I was able to get 8 spore prints from 4 big caps with 4 hour and then 24 hour waiting time, so I should be self-sufficient for my next grows.

I dealt with the overly wet rye by spreading the grains in a tray in 3-4 thin layers with paper towels in between. After about an hour the towels had absorbed a lot of moisture and the jars look good, there's no visible excess moisture. Thank you for the tek suggestion, Way. I'll give it a go next time as it seems a lot more appropriate for my rye.


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InvisibleLyleChipperson

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Re: First grow GT PF Tek [Re: LyleChipperson] * 1
    #28556045 - 11/25/23 01:39 PM (2 months, 1 day ago)

The slow jar finally finished its furst flush, it took its time but did well in the end. I never noticed until now that a small pin on the bottom turned into the biggest mushroom of the flush and pushed the whole cake up. I got 62 g wet.



Now I think I'll give the B+ syringe a try, it failed miserably when tested on agar so I'll probably just load 10 jars, inoculate with 2ml per jar and get some prints or clones if it fruits.


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InvisibleLyleChipperson

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Re: First grow GT PF Tek [Re: LyleChipperson]
    #28559443 - 11/28/23 12:58 PM (1 month, 29 days ago)

2 days ago I used up the B+ syringe on 10 jars, so I'm waiting to see how it goes.

6 days ago I did a2g in 5 smaller jars, about 600ml size, using 2 petris. 1 T2 clean dish was split in 4 and used to inoculate 4 jars. For the fifth jar I used a whole T2 dish from a different starter plate that grew slower, but I didn't want to split the first dish in more than 4 pieces. The whole dish was split in 4 before transfering to the fifth jar.

Today, the 4 jars that got 1/4 plate are still showing no growth on the grain, but the agar has visible growth on the bottom that is now facing up. The fifth jar with the whole plate has a bit of mycelium reaching for the grains that are directly touching agar. Overall it seems like growth is slow, but at least there's no contamination yet.

My buddy's PF tek got green growth in 6 of 8 jars and I can only think of the syringe being contaminated, we followed the same procedure I did except we used a SAB and made his inoculation holes big enough so the needle can go through. It was going very slow, it took 2 weeks for any visible mycelium to show and just a couple days after there were very big spots of green. All the green growth was towards the top of the jars, so I wonder if this points to any specific issue. I told him to use his B+ syringe and if it also fails, I'll use the smallest spore print I made, but I'll dump the whole thing into a syringe and see if we can get some good growth out of that.


Edited by LyleChipperson (11/28/23 01:01 PM)


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Re: First grow GT PF Tek [Re: LyleChipperson]
    #28562134 - 11/30/23 01:01 PM (1 month, 27 days ago)

3rd flush is on the way, I harvested 6g wet today from 1 cake that grew them way quicker than the others.

The grain jars are now all starting to visibly colonize, I guess complaining about them gave them a nudge to get it going :smile:

I was thinking about long term stealthy storage and I decided to go with capsules, the pressing unit and empty caps should arrive tomorrow, so I'm excited to get that going.


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Re: First grow GT PF Tek [Re: LyleChipperson] * 1
    #28562239 - 11/30/23 02:29 PM (1 month, 27 days ago)

Read all of your grow journal.
Great job :smile:


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