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Pinkerton
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Stay aware, y'all!
#28444130 - 08/23/23 04:47 PM (5 months, 2 days ago) |
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Liberate yourself from bar codes and you will see through the veil of society.
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Re: Stay aware, y'all! [Re: Pinkerton]
#28444220 - 08/23/23 05:58 PM (5 months, 2 days ago) |
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Re: Stay aware, y'all! [Re: Pinkerton]
#28479264 - 09/22/23 09:34 PM (4 months, 3 days ago) |
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Can you elaborate?
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Pinkerton
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Re: Stay aware, y'all! [Re: Big_Dub]
#28483667 - 09/26/23 12:39 PM (4 months, 2 hours ago) |
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We are imprisoned and chained up to bar codes like slaves. We live like severe nicotine junkies. We are products of the currency.
Put short: Consumerism.
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Re: Stay aware, y'all! [Re: Pinkerton]
#28483677 - 09/26/23 12:54 PM (4 months, 2 hours ago) |
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Have a better past time for a Valley Girl?
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I'm curious OP, was it any better before barcodes? Because presumably, people before they existed still traded at markets, bartering and using currency. Only the counting was done informally and not with an electronic system.
Is it possible to live without being dependent on using currency (or other goods) to pay for essentials and luxuries? Maybe we buy too many things, but at the very least we need some way to pay for food and housing.
Or are you saying that we are a slave to the market, approaching marxist territory? Not criticizng that per se but that's a whole different ballgame.
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Pinkerton
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I'm curious OP, was it any better before barcodes? Because presumably, people before they existed still traded at markets, bartering and using currency. Only the counting was done informally and not with an electronic system.
I agree but you are missing the 'put short'-part, namely 'consumerism'. In 2023 we consume more than ever and it does not look like it is slowing down in fact it is increasing.
Consumerism = (for most people) slaving for electronic gadgets, new car, new lawn mower and so forth. And then you have all the bills: mortgage, student loan, car bill, electricity bill, the pinnacle of this lunacy is credit cards.
You can not live in modern society without being forced to buy the latest of the latest accommodates ad. infinitum. And that is the slaving/imprisoned part.
Edited by Pinkerton (09/26/23 02:51 PM)
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Re: Stay aware, y'all! [Re: Pinkerton]
#28483756 - 09/26/23 02:04 PM (4 months, 50 minutes ago) |
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Is a salt mine by any other name less productive?
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CreonAntigone
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I think you make a good point. But consumerism is only part superficial, and the other part is actually about quality of life. We can buy supercomputers that we can put in our pockets, that surpass the computing power of anything that could be imagined years ago, and that can hook us up to a vast web of information.
So maybe it is wrong to always want a new iphone, to shell out $1000-plus for a product already owned. But it sure isn't wrong to want a smartphone in general. It's too immensely useful.
So there are needs for these products and these companies, or if not needs then at least benefits to ourselves and others. The question is, how can we let those companies continue to exist and grow without the need for constant purchasing, constant expansion of market share and cut-throat business?
Ironically, sometimes the need for more business makes the products on offer worse, insofar as these computers seem to reach a point where they still could work but the software seems designed to fail.
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I think you make a good point. But consumerism is only part superficial, and the other part is actually about quality of life. We can buy supercomputers that we can put in our pockets, that surpass the computing power of anything that could be imagined years ago, and that can hook us up to a vast web of information.
Future shock is the issue.
The question is, how can we let those companies continue to exist and grow without the need for constant purchasing, constant expansion of market share and cut-throat business?
Re-design humankind.
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Re: Stay aware, y'all! [Re: Pinkerton]
#28484446 - 09/27/23 07:16 AM (3 months, 30 days ago) |
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Future shock is well in hand of filibusters.
Re-design is the kernal in the design of next year's model.
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Consumerism will exist as long as monetary units do.
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Pinkerton
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Quote:
Buster_Brown said: Re-design is the kernal in the design of next year's model.
Hotshot words but...they deliver.
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