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Re: The Master Plan (A quasi-meta-tek) [Re: B Traven] * 1
    #28479801 - 09/23/23 11:08 AM (4 months, 2 days ago)

Ok, one random thought:

We often see the sentiment expressed that some people just want a very small personal amount of mushrooms, and want a growing system that doesn't involve bulk grows. But I personally feel that repetition is critical to success, and doing one or two grows a year is not conducive to advancing one's skills. Also, if someone isn't doing any selection work, and only growing very small amounts, then potency is likely to be all over the map.

But the process of working with agar and doing sequential g2g transfers can be scaled to any size container. While someone looking for large :yields: of :dealershrooms: might feel that it would be a lot of extra work for nothing, there is always the option of running much smaller vessels- pints, half pints, etc. That way, one could still get a chance to practice their technique and select from multiple lines, but not end up buried in fruit they have no use for. Also, by having multiple small harvests from multiple lines, they could have a pool of material that could be ground up and homogenized, providing more stable and predictable concentrations of actives. Also, smaller containers would likely reach full colonization a bit faster, unless they were being inoculated with the tiniest amount of grain. So the micro-grower could also fit more cycles into a given time period.

Of course, this could also be accomplished with sequential PFtek grows, where one takes prints from each generation and makes their own syringes. Or does the agar work, but concludes it with a liquid inoculant used in PF cakes.


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Re: The Master Plan (A quasi-meta-tek) [Re: B Traven]
    #28479902 - 09/23/23 12:13 PM (4 months, 2 days ago)

Here is where I will intervene to share some opposing thoughts. :smile:

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We often see the sentiment expressed that some people just want a very small personal amount of mushrooms, and want a growing system that doesn't involve bulk grows. But I personally feel that repetition is critical to success, and doing one or two grows a year is not conducive to advancing one's skills.





First of all, the person that is not interested in bulk grows will not care about advancing their skills either. This really isn't a good argument.

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If someone isn't doing any selection work, and only growing very small amounts, then potency is likely to be all over the map.

But the process of working with agar and doing sequential g2g transfers can be scaled to any size container.





In my opinion, since LC can be purchased from vendors in the US and much of Europe since a year or two, agar work has become completely optional for the casual grower. The LC purchased from vendors is clean and contains a nice isolate, in my experience. That means there is no reason to worry about creating a well performing culture for this casual grower. Using vessels with SHIPs even the SAB can be considered optional considering you can inject a SHIP in open air with very little risk.

I have purchased a 20 mL LC syringe for 25 euros. A lot of the growers in this forum will scoff at that price, but in reality you can easily produce over 20 myco-quarts of spawn with this syringe. More than enough for this casual grower.


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Re: The Master Plan (A quasi-meta-tek) [Re: Tiamo] * 1
    #28479917 - 09/23/23 12:23 PM (4 months, 2 days ago)

Damn!

Well, that shit's technically illegal over here in North America, though I've heard reports of it turning up on some online platforms, anyway.

It wasn't meant as an argument. I'm not writing policy here. If someone wants to put in the work but doesn't want a ton of fruit, or, more to the point, wants consistent results but doesn't need a ton of fruit, then my comments might resonate with them. If not, that's fine. I seriously doubt they would have waded through all this crap in the first place. Good quality commerically available LC's is obviously a game-changer, to such a degree that I've never played that game before and probably never will.

Maybe all this is really aimed at future LC producers...

Oh, yeah, thanks for the bump 👍


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Re: The Master Plan (A quasi-meta-tek) [Re: B Traven] * 1
    #28479924 - 09/23/23 12:29 PM (4 months, 2 days ago)

It is in somewhat of a grey zone. You will notice even some Shroomery sponsors sell cubensis LC to much of North America. The rules don't allow us to discuss this as freely as I would like, though. :smile:


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