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I learn nothing from children. I don't think they have anything technical to teach. Patience is required to deal with them, and maybe they can have a funny imagination.
Human rights and all aren't a thought to me but a foundation. I don't have to think about my foundations, they are as they are.
I walk on the shoulders of a morality I already built.
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Cory Duchesne
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Re: The Principles of Approbation [Re: sudly]
#28429274 - 08/11/23 02:04 AM (5 months, 15 days ago) |
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Human rights and all aren't a thought to me but a foundation. I don't have to think about my foundations, they are as they are.
I know what you mean. Eating food, or, having to eat food isn't a thought. Some people will question whether or not I'm getting three meals a day, or they question if I want food. It's kind of a latest trend. Are you hungry? Would you like a sandwhich? The first 30 years of my life no one asked me about food, it was just something we did, we ate meals together at certain times. Now times have changed. I enjoyed shopping for myself and cooking for myself. In these past 5 years I've had more than one person persistently question me about my hunger or if I want to eat, and .... I just don't know what to say. Food costs money, that's why we work, so we can eat. I don't see why we should question each other about things that are the foundation. It's almost like the foundation of my being is being niggled, nibbled, worn away. Obviously I need to eat. Why should that ever be a question? I made a website with a recipe for curry, and started cooking my own curry. Next thing you know, this lady starts asking me if I want curry (she gathered from me that I like it, so it's dumb to ask when you've already made it clear). Sure, I said, I'll take the curry you made for me. She then gives me a recipe for curry. I had already told her I had a recipe, made a website for it, too. I then told her I was going to start making my own curry again. She said I didn't have the spices to make it. I did, though. Around in circles. Soemtimes we have difficult personalities in our lives, and their questions kind of eat away at the foundation. They have a talent for asking questions that were answered long ago. And just when you think the questions are over, there they are again, the next time. Sometimes it's not a question, it's a contradiction. "No, you're not able to, you don't have x, y, z. I'll make sure you don't." This is kind of like softcore coercive control.
“The problem was you had to keep choosing between one evil or another, and no matter what you chose, they sliced a little bit more off you, until there was nothing left. At the age of 25 most people were finished.” ~ Charles Bukowski
-------------------- C.G. Jung: "Please remember, it is what you are that heals, not what you know." "I shall not commit the fashionable stupidity of regarding everything I cannot explain as a fraud." - Carl Jung Krishna, as his friends called him, freely admitted his compulsive lying. He blamed it on simple fear of having his deceptions detected." NOTES OF A FRINGE-WATCHER MARTIN GARDNER on J Krishnamurti "All your questions are born out of the answers you already have. Any answer anybody gives should put an end to your questions. But it does not." [UG-K]
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Re: The Principles of Approbation [Re: sudly]
#28429358 - 08/11/23 04:54 AM (5 months, 15 days ago) |
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You got some lernin to do fella. Look to children or stagnate. The way of the child is the best way to go.
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sudly
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Cory Duchesne said:
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Human rights and all aren't a thought to me but a foundation. I don't have to think about my foundations, they are as they are.
I know what you mean. Eating food, or, having to eat food isn't a thought. Some people will question whether or not I'm getting three meals a day, or they question if I want food. It's kind of a latest trend. Are you hungry? Would you like a sandwhich? The first 30 years of my life no one asked me about food, it was just something we did, we ate meals together at certain times. Now times have changed. I enjoyed shopping for myself and cooking for myself. In these past 5 years I've had more than one person persistently question me about my hunger or if I want to eat, and .... I just don't know what to say. Food costs money, that's why we work, so we can eat. I don't see why we should question each other about things that are the foundation. It's almost like the foundation of my being is being niggled, nibbled, worn away. Obviously I need to eat. Why should that ever be a question? I made a website with a recipe for curry, and started cooking my own curry. Next thing you know, this lady starts asking me if I want curry (she gathered from me that I like it, so it's dumb to ask when you've already made it clear). Sure, I said, I'll take the curry you made for me. She then gives me a recipe for curry. I had already told her I had a recipe, made a website for it, too. I then told her I was going to start making my own curry again. She said I didn't have the spices to make it. I did, though. Around in circles. Soemtimes we have difficult personalities in our lives, and their questions kind of eat away at the foundation. They have a talent for asking questions that were answered long ago. And just when you think the questions are over, there they are again, the next time. Sometimes it's not a question, it's a contradiction. "No, you're not able to, you don't have x, y, z. I'll make sure you don't." This is kind of like softcore coercive control.
“The problem was you had to keep choosing between one evil or another, and no matter what you chose, they sliced a little bit more off you, until there was nothing left. At the age of 25 most people were finished.” ~ Charles Bukowski
I never said it's a foundation that doesn't change or have bits removed haha, I also figure I'm a hoe but that's a new chapter in life I'm coming to accept.
Point being, I approve of myself and my actions given I practice open and honest communication with those I involve myself with.
I also don't have intentions to change other people, or have my approval be the arbiter of their actions.
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Edited by sudly (08/11/23 06:07 AM)
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sudly
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redgreenvines said: You got some lernin to do fella. Look to children or stagnate. The way of the child is the best way to go.
I also take a similar view on Aboriginal culture. Frankly I don't think there's anything practical to learn from it outside of plant identification and bush survival.
Even tour guides in Kakadu will tell you that modern back burning techniques are more efficient.
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Re: The Principles of Approbation [Re: sudly]
#28429441 - 08/11/23 07:28 AM (5 months, 15 days ago) |
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not facts, silly, wonder.
I thought you had some affinity to the sun
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sudly
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I wonder what that has to do with the Sun?
I am actually intending on going to a comic convention in a red robe with the sunpraiser shirt and a book of notes to share homage to the Sun.
Speaking of a little light ball to passers by.
I have a lot of wonder, and I understand kids can share a lot of unique wonder. But frankly I don't wonder what they wonder in general.
Given I never want kids, didn't grow up with a dad, and have only baby sat literal terrors that have been expelled from multiple kindergartens, as well as mostly seeing tantrums in shopping stores, I know there are nice, and intelligent kids around.
You did say silly wonder, and I see how people can find joy and wonder from that itself, but it's not for me.
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sudly
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Re: The Principles of Approbation [Re: sudly]
#28471791 - 09/17/23 12:37 AM (4 months, 9 days ago) |
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This is long but relevant,
TLDR: The wise plan ahead to make informed decisions.
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Viewing the arbiter as a planner of future actions aligns with the notion that it operates thoughtfully, especially when we contemplate the long term implications of our choices. It would appear to play a significant role in guiding our decision making process, laying a foundation for pursuing intended outcomes while keeping an eye on potential progress beyond the immediate results.
This perspective presents the arbiter as a guiding force for our future actions, encouraging us to consider not only the present but also the long term benefits and personal growth. By accounting for the sustainability of outcomes, the arbiter could be suggested to act as a wise advisor, nudging us towards decisions that align with our values and broader aspirations.
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Consider decision making as a complex neurological process influenced by dynamic environmental forces. Analogous to this phenomenon, envision two dynamic forces converging to yield a specific outcome. These forces represent the multifaceted factors that exert pressures and influence during the decision making process. Similar to continuous feedback loops that help maintain equilibrium in neurological systems, decision makers continually assess their progress, evaluate results, and make necessary adjustments to stay aligned with their objectives.
Much like the precise alignment of components is crucial for these converging forces to achieve their desired outcome, effective decision making relies on the alignment of various strategies and resources to work in harmony toward a defined goal. In response to unforeseen challenges or changing circumstances, the decision maker adapts, recalibrating strategies to maintain equilibrium within the dynamic environment.
Consider the multitude of approaches, akin to the varied pathways taken by these converging forces, which decision makers explore in their pursuit of the optimal course of action. Evaluating these options and anticipating potential outcomes are fundamental aspects of the decision-making process, enabling informed choices. In conclusion, this analogy underscores how decision making is a neurological dynamic, where converging forces of various influences require precision, adaptability, exploration of options, and foresight to achieve desired outcomes.
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Planning serves as the scaffold upon which decision makers construct their pathways. It's like laying down the foundation for the neural connections in the brain. Through meticulous planning, decision makers anticipate potential routes and outcomes before embarking on their journey. It's akin to neural pathways forming connections in advance of a particular thought process.
By systematically evaluating these options during the planning phase, much like neurons assessing the strength of synapses, decision makers gain insights into the potential consequences of each choice. They can predict which pathways may lead to favorable outcomes and which might result in detours or obstacles. This predictive capability is crucial for making informed choices, similar to how neurons transmit information based on the strength of their connections.
In essence, planning equips decision makers with the foresight to navigate the intricate web of choices efficiently. It allows them to envision the neural connections, so to speak, before they're made, thereby enabling a more informed and strategic approach to decision-making. In conclusion, this analogy underscores how decision making is a dynamic neurological process, demanding precision, adaptability, exploration of options, and, crucially, meticulous planning to achieve desired outcomes within the complex landscape of possibilities.
Change is alright.
'The distance from the man that I am, to the man I want to be. The time it takes to realise that time is the distance I need.'
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Re: The Principles of Approbation [Re: sudly]
#28471881 - 09/17/23 04:53 AM (4 months, 9 days ago) |
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The best plans are made and maintained externally, from sand drawings, to computerized schedules and charts; we have to get it out and on paper (or typed on a cellphone at least) unless we are avoiding capture and interrogation during war, or a cold war.
Keeping complex plans in the mind is much less trivial, and it takes much dedication to keep it fresh and bright.
As a child I avoided clowns who seemed to mock everything including themselves. your Sun prophet outfit sounds like a clown suit. you would be a red giant.
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sudly
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I have great plans on paper for some things like my future career aspirations.
I'm learning to measure and balance my productivity, and I don't expect describing analogies to transfer the perspective completely, it's new to me too. I've outlined how I imagine my decision making process. The way that my opposing perspectives collide to lead me in directions.
This was the intention.

I don't mock myself, I acknowledge and plan to continue my growth.
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Re: The Principles of Approbation [Re: sudly]
#28471930 - 09/17/23 06:15 AM (4 months, 9 days ago) |
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oh, my, hierophant style, spooky!
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