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Re: Monotub vs Shoebox Question. [Re: Zav3r]
#28475258 - 09/19/23 04:54 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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Zav3r said: Thank you. I don't know if I can do bacterial isolation. it's possible with the right antifungal. I have access to the antifungal. I think exploring this avenue of study can open up other ways we can make sure spawn is clean. This is a learning process. You're not sure if there is contamination so you check. I think that's a pretty simple and healthy way to go about understanding your methods. A lot of things here in shroomery are about checking your work, testing if something works or doesn't work. I think I and everyone here for that matter have the liberty to "test" their theories with appropriate guidance of course. I think having a microbio and clinical background equips me with more skills to do what I want to do.
With that said thank you for the help.
go ahead and put a few samples of that grain on agar. I would say break it and shake it and let it sit for a few days before taking a sample but there ain't no way that mess is going to break up. still, I feel confident that you are going to see a mess on plate
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https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28476180#28476180
Apparently now he is a physician.
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Re: Monotub vs Shoebox Question. [Re: Stipe-n Cap] 2
#28476404 - 09/20/23 01:36 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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its always the guys with fucked up grows flexing their education. seems to be a correlation anyway.
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I’m just trying to help someone
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Re: Monotub vs Shoebox Question. [Re: Zav3r]
#28477152 - 09/20/23 08:51 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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Hey guys. Feel free to message me so we can talk about this more. I'm more than happy to talk to you guys about this. I don't like it being out here in the open. If you have questions about my post somewhere else pls feel free to PM me and we can go on a lengthy discussion about alcohol use, alcohol withdrawal, psilocybin use for the above conditions etc... I would be more than happy to shed some light into this in the hopes of helping other people with misinformation. Thanks a lot.
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#28477183 - 09/20/23 09:09 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Monotub vs Shoebox Question. [Re: Mycolorado]
#28477216 - 09/20/23 09:50 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Monotub vs Shoebox Question. [Re: Zav3r] 4
#28477250 - 09/20/23 10:59 PM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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Zav3r said: Hey guys. Feel free to message me so we can talk about this more. I'm more than happy to talk to you guys about this. I don't like it being out here in the open. If you have questions about my post somewhere else pls feel free to PM me and we can go on a lengthy discussion about alcohol use, alcohol withdrawal, psilocybin use for the above conditions etc... I would be more than happy to shed some light into this in the hopes of helping other people with misinformation. Thanks a lot.
you realize some of us have been doing this for nearly 20 years? You realize that many of us came here to find help with drug and alcohol abuse? You were already giving unsolicited all-caps advice to someone in a three week old thread and were asked to get back in your lane. I am sorry but your posts smack of arrogance. Just talk to us like we are also adults with experience and educations please and step on the gas pedal and arrive at the point that you are trying to privately drive us to.
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Re: Monotub vs Shoebox Question. [Re: B Traven]
#28477346 - 09/21/23 05:18 AM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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B Traven said: Lately, I've been enjoying the ability to scoop up the entire substrate from a shoebox and drop it into a larger tub, basically turning it into a giant PF cake.
Holy F! That is worth the price of admission right there. That is going on the list of things to try
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Re: Monotub vs Shoebox Question. [Re: jay.ach]
#28477409 - 09/21/23 07:48 AM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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jay.ach said:
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B Traven said: Lately, I've been enjoying the ability to scoop up the entire substrate from a shoebox and drop it into a larger tub, basically turning it into a giant PF cake.
Holy F! That is worth the price of admission right there. That is going on the list of things to try
Yeah this has been on my mind... That & the other idea of taking 2 g2g transfers from every jar of spawn you have before spawning.
How much success have you had with this B Traven? I've got quite a few shoes (Nats) that are finishing 2nd flush currently & I'm tempted to give it a try.
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Re: Monotub vs Shoebox Question. [Re: stockw] 2
#28477421 - 09/21/23 08:10 AM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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stockw said:
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jay.ach said:
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B Traven said: Lately, I've been enjoying the ability to scoop up the entire substrate from a shoebox and drop it into a larger tub, basically turning it into a giant PF cake.
Holy F! That is worth the price of admission right there. That is going on the list of things to try
Yeah this has been on my mind... That & the other idea of taking 2 g2g transfers from every jar of spawn you have before spawning.
How much success have you had with this B Traven? I've got quite a few shoes (Nats) that are finishing 2nd flush currently & I'm tempted to give it a try.
It works well. I had a bunch of side pins, so I flipped the substrate and put it in another tub. There is perlite at the bottom, but it's still filled like a water tub. I don't have racks to spare at the moment.

FYI the pool of water is fresh, and it absorbed soon after.
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Re: Monotub vs Shoebox Question. [Re: Zav3r] 1
#28477493 - 09/21/23 09:50 AM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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I need to get some good pictures the next time I do it...
I've had pretty good success with it. There are typically two reasons why I do it, sometimes overlapping.
As long as I have good pinsets on the surface, I don't worry much about side pins. Which is probably why I don't do much to avoid them in my spawning techniques. And some of the genetics I'm running just pin everywhere all the time. Sometimes I'll get a shoebox with A LOT of side pins, and putting the substrate into a larger container gives them room to develop properly.
Shoeboxes are front and center for me, but I've only got so many of them. When I want to free up space for more spawn, or just free up tubs when I have some time to do dishes, I can move my older substrates into the larger tubs. I can fit 2 into my larger tubs (the big flat ones used for dub tubs) with ample room for side pin development, or 3 if they're really packed in. Then I'll have a stack of those on the top of my shelving unit.
Older substrates eventually run out of water and crap out. Being able to mist 5 sides at once sort of acts like a quasi-soak on older subs.
In terms of yields and growing conditions, it's been equal to or better than keeping them in the shoeboxes (sometimes better when I've got the bionic side-pin thing). But I guess the real value to me is how it helps me manage my containers/space.
But also, it's just fun. Good spawn is very malleable, and it's boring to always do the same thing...
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Re: Monotub vs Shoebox Question. [Re: B Traven] 1
#28477500 - 09/21/23 09:56 AM (1 year, 3 months ago) |
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I often do this for the second flush. Especially for Nats that seem to want to side pin like crazy for me. Sometimes the 2nd flush has been better than the 1st.
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