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Swami said:
A theory with zero supporting evidence is called a fantasy.

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Umm well yes I guess you could look at it like that, but I'm sorry to say that if we as a human race relied on everything with factial bascis and evidence, we would be fooked my friend...fooked.  We need to allow ourself's thought processes that expand our "normal" way of thinking. So it might be a fanasty..yes..but can you entertain the possiblitty of such an event? If not big bang-then the possiblity of an organism travling here form another part of the galaxie, and finding life in our little corner of the galaxie.

What about this, have you ever wondered why when you take mushrooms you can trip intensly for 5 hours, and then almost like a switch being fliped, your done tripping and thats that. No real hardcore side effects, almost an euphoric state as the trip wears off.

Then you can do LSD and have massive side effects and feel like crap for 12 hours after the trip is done.

McKenna suggest this is a caused from mushrooms being used throughout the evolvement of the human species. This therory in particular striked a chord with me. In all my pursuits in the psychedelic mind, I always wondered about this...

If throughout human evolution mushrooms were being used, then theoretically our brains would have some retained knowledge of the drug and be able to accept it to a certain degree, mabye even reckognize it, and understand why its there and what to do with it.

From personal experience, I can trip way harder on mushrooms than LSD, and have more visual and mental experience, than with LSD and feel completely normal after a 5 hour trip. I guarentee thats not gonna happen on acid. Why is this do you think?

I hope no one is bothered by my rambling, but I'm egar to share some of these ideas with those of you who have not read any of McKenna's stuff, and mabye some of you will go pick up one of his books and do some serious thinking for yourselves.

Mabye the mushrooms has something to say....we just need to learn how to listen.....

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trendal said:
From personal experience, I can trip way harder on mushrooms than LSD, and have more visual and mental experience, than with LSD and feel completely normal after a 5 hour trip. I guarentee thats not gonna happen on acid. Why is this do you think?

From my personal experience, I do trip much "harder" on LSD than mushrooms with much less body-load and after-effects. Don't try to guarantee that your personal experience will be the same for everyone else

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So your telling me that your side effects are less with LSD then they are with mushrooms?

I'm simply giving my opinon of the subject, I would hope that most of the readers would have enough common sence to not take my "guarentee" literally  Obviously we are all going to have diffrent trips. but if in fact the above is what your saying, you are the first person I have ever heard say they have less side effects from LSD than mushrooms.

I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks the side effect from LSD "acid" are harder on you than mushrooms, and I'm certainly not trying to say we are all the same, mabye I'm just an old fart and its harder on me than the young guys, but even when I was younger in high school and such, I remember the "next day" being hell on my body and not feeling "normal" again for quite some time after an acid trip.