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Re: the current state of MAGA (moved) [Re: rxb]
#28470965 - 09/16/23 10:29 AM (4 months, 9 days ago) |
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I'm not blaming anything other than Charles Manson's horrible childhood and above-average charisma.
I just don't like drug stereotypes, which is what "why isn't everyone who does psychedelics all about peace and love" and "tweakers are dangerous human scum" amount to. I've met some horrible acid-heads, trustworthy heroin addicts, and kind-hearted meth heads in my day.
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Re: the current state of MAGA (moved) [Re: B Traven]
#28470986 - 09/16/23 10:42 AM (4 months, 9 days ago) |
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yeah i mean one of my best friends does meth up his nose on the reg.
good dude... cant say its made him better. but he is still a good dude.
on the other hand i've known it to make a ton of people worse.
but i swear most people i know who use psychedellics do have a more peace love and understanding side that grows after.
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Re: the current state of MAGA (moved) [Re: rxb] 1
#28471001 - 09/16/23 10:55 AM (4 months, 9 days ago) |
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rxb said: but i swear most people i know who use psychedellics do have a more peace love and understanding side that grows after.
Hard to tell which is the cause and which is the effect...
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Re: the current state of MAGA (moved) [Re: Enlil] 1
#28471011 - 09/16/23 11:02 AM (4 months, 9 days ago) |
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rxb said: but i swear most people i know who use psychedellics do have a more peace love and understanding side that grows after.
Hard to tell which is the cause and which is the effect...
if i hadnt seen a pattern in the transformations with both meth and lsd...
i wouldnt have the opinion i do.
i admit its circumstantial and has plenty of sampling bias. but we dont discard observational science we just label it that way and try to remove more variability in the future.
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Re: the current state of MAGA (moved) [Re: rxb]
#28471017 - 09/16/23 11:06 AM (4 months, 9 days ago) |
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rxb said: yeah i mean one of my best friends does meth up his nose on the reg.
good dude... cant say its made him better. but he is still a good dude.
on the other hand i've known it to make a ton of people worse.
but i swear most people i know who use psychedellics do have a more peace love and understanding side that grows after.
Oh, yeah, you can't discount the effects, or the side effects.
And if I didn't see psychedelic use as a net positive for most people, I wouldn't grow them.
But I also grew up with a whole lot of pretty awful and ignorant people who loved to drop acid. They might have been nicer while on it, but then just went back to sucking afterwards. A lot of them seemed to hate mushrooms, though.
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Re: the current state of MAGA (moved) [Re: B Traven]
#28471019 - 09/16/23 11:10 AM (4 months, 9 days ago) |
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I know people who I consider good who hate mushrooms too though
I'm actually afraid to take acid because it last so long, ill take mushrooms because I know it only last a fee hours and if I have a skitzo episode it won't be forlike 10 hours
But honestly I dont really like the mindfuck of mushrooms, I only enjoy the patterens I see and the wall and ceiling breathing
I see the ceiling move around like it was tiles moving, and its not even a tile ceiling its just a popcorn ceiling
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Re: the current state of MAGA (moved) [Re: B Traven] 1
#28471023 - 09/16/23 11:14 AM (4 months, 9 days ago) |
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B Traven said:
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rxb said: yeah i mean one of my best friends does meth up his nose on the reg.
good dude... cant say its made him better. but he is still a good dude.
on the other hand i've known it to make a ton of people worse.
but i swear most people i know who use psychedellics do have a more peace love and understanding side that grows after.
Oh, yeah, you can't discount the effects, or the side effects.
And if I didn't see psychedelic use as a net positive for most people, I wouldn't grow them.
But I also grew up with a whole lot of pretty awful and ignorant people who loved to drop acid. They might have been nicer while on it, but then just went back to sucking afterwards. A lot of them seemed to hate mushrooms, though.
psychs dont make bad people good, but maybe bad people better.... and nothing is right all the time
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Re: the current state of MAGA (moved) [Re: gopher]
#28471058 - 09/16/23 11:44 AM (4 months, 9 days ago) |
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gopher said: I know people who I consider good who hate mushrooms too though
I'm actually afraid to take acid because it last so long, ill take mushrooms because I know it only last a fee hours and if I have a skitzo episode it won't be forlike 10 hours
But honestly I dont really like the mindfuck of mushrooms, I only enjoy the patterens I see and the wall and ceiling breathing
I see the ceiling move around like it was tiles moving, and its not even a tile ceiling its just a popcorn ceiling
I always enjoyed the mushroom afterglow where you have all kinds of epiphanies and shit. Obviously the visuals are the bigger draw. I hate 5he uncomfortable body feelings on the come up though
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Re: the current state of MAGA (moved) [Re: ballsalsa]
#28471069 - 09/16/23 11:53 AM (4 months, 9 days ago) |
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If only there was a website where people could discuss the use of mushrooms and how to handle those negative effects.
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Re: the current state of MAGA (moved) [Re: Enlil]
#28471141 - 09/16/23 01:21 PM (4 months, 9 days ago) |
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Meh, buy the ticket, take the ride. No sense in fighting too hard against whatever chemicals you ingested. Just take the good with the bad, I say.
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Re: the current state of MAGA (moved) [Re: ballsalsa] 2
#28471146 - 09/16/23 01:25 PM (4 months, 9 days ago) |
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You take the good. You take the bad. You take them both and there you have the facts of life. The facts of life. There's a time you got to go and show you're growin' now you know about the facts of life. The facts of life.
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Re: the current state of MAGA (moved) [Re: Enlil]
#28471151 - 09/16/23 01:35 PM (4 months, 9 days ago) |
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Yeah, I remember when folks would man the fuck up and take their nausea with dignity. Puke, smoke an unfiltered cigarette, and ride off into the psychedelic sunset with a hot blonde who wasn't afraid to be white or feminine.
That was back when we still made things in this country.
Seriously, though, I believe that a lot of the "mushroom willies" are the result of poorly preserved material, and having to eat large amounts of chitin when it's on the weaker side. I haven't actually experienced what I'd consider nauseau or "body load" in a long time. I als haven't eaten a significant amount of whole dried shrooms in a long time.
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Re: the current state of MAGA (moved) [Re: Enlil]
#28471152 - 09/16/23 01:35 PM (4 months, 9 days ago) |
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Enlil said: If only there was a website where people could discuss the use of mushrooms and how to handle those negative effects.
grow shrooms!!
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Re: the current state of MAGA (moved) [Re: mushboy]
#28471153 - 09/16/23 01:36 PM (4 months, 9 days ago) |
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Only God can grow shrooms, bro.
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Re: the current state of MAGA (moved) [Re: Enlil]
#28471163 - 09/16/23 01:42 PM (4 months, 9 days ago) |
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Did sumarians eat mushrooms?
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Re: the current state of MAGA (moved) [Re: Enlil] 1
#28471228 - 09/16/23 02:43 PM (4 months, 9 days ago) |
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Enlil said: You take the good. You take the bad. You take them both and there you have the facts of life. The facts of life. There's a time you got to go and show you're growin' now you know about the facts of life. The facts of life.
You take the good. You take the bad. You take a look and now you had, my opening statement.
Sit Boo Boo sit. Good dog.
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Re: the current state of MAGA (moved) [Re: budmanman]
#28471247 - 09/16/23 02:57 PM (4 months, 9 days ago) |
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The bark isnt ubu, its the sound production guy, I just seen that on YouTube looking to hear this again
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Re: the current state of MAGA (moved) [Re: gopher] 1
#28471306 - 09/16/23 04:13 PM (4 months, 9 days ago) |
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ubu was such a good dog.
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Re: the current state of MAGA (moved) [Re: B Traven] 1
#28473605 - 09/18/23 10:48 AM (4 months, 7 days ago) |
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rxb said: yeah i mean one of my best friends does meth up his nose on the reg.
good dude... cant say its made him better. but he is still a good dude.
on the other hand i've known it to make a ton of people worse.
but i swear most people i know who use psychedellics do have a more peace love and understanding side that grows after.
Oh, yeah, you can't discount the effects, or the side effects.
And if I didn't see psychedelic use as a net positive for most people, I wouldn't grow them.
But I also grew up with a whole lot of pretty awful and ignorant people who loved to drop acid. They might have been nicer while on it, but then just went back to sucking afterwards. A lot of them seemed to hate mushrooms, though.
One reason for this is IMO acid use is a lot less introspective than mushroom use. I can definitely see how you don't need to come to terms with your shitty beliefs the same way as mushrooms.
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Re: the current state of MAGA (moved) [Re: gopher] 1
#28473613 - 09/18/23 10:56 AM (4 months, 7 days ago) |
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gopher said: I know people who I consider good who hate mushrooms too though
I'm actually afraid to take acid because it last so long, ill take mushrooms because I know it only last a fee hours and if I have a skitzo episode it won't be forlike 10 hours
But honestly I dont really like the mindfuck of mushrooms, I only enjoy the patterens I see and the wall and ceiling breathing
I see the ceiling move around like it was tiles moving, and its not even a tile ceiling its just a popcorn ceiling
This goes along with my last post, but you shouldn't be afraid of acid. Take half a good tab at a festival, or something you can distract yourself well enough, and it's a great time while being far less of a mind fuck than mushrooms. Also even high dosed, 10 hours is exaggerated. More like 6 before you function well again.
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