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Anonymous #1

Selling drugs on the dark web * 1
    #28466829 - 09/12/23 06:32 PM (4 months, 13 days ago)

Everything this thread is purely hypothetical and fictional.

I am nearing my wits end with the bullshit of this world, or at least western society. I have no problem being responsible in the sense of getting a job, following the orders of superiors, showing up on time, meeting performance expectations (we are talking more-so entry level stuff here). Yet, it is always the same... the soul crushing feeling that my life is being wasted to line someone else's pockets, or fueling an organization that only exists because people have been duped into believing its existence is somehow compulsory to their own.

I could go on, and on, and on, about workplace social politics, the nature of salesmanship and the questionable ethics pertaining to it, the sacrifices that come with trying to be an entrepreneur, and how it can be thwarted by some garbage like the "pandemic"; there is more, but... I would rather get straight to the point.

In spite of having some negative experiences, psychedelics have opened me up to a lot (no shit). I do feel some sense of purpose in propagating psychedelics based on my experiences with them, particularly DMT and mushrooms. Ethically I am comfortable with the endeavor because while yes, some people have awful reactions to psychedelics, ultimately they are making that decision on their own, independent of the sourcing party employing persuasive tactics (lying, essentially) to encourage purchase. I have found that mushrooms in particular seem to be more prevalent these days, and such wide availability has made them difficult to peddle locally, even when offering cheap prices and quality product. I suspect the dark web is a saturated market also, but I am wondering still if this is a viable option.

While having never been incarcerated, I am tuned in with the horrendous environment and life that comes with occupying a prison cell, however, I am also beyond tired of feeling emasculated and cut off from the world as a result of having zero resources or freedom as a young adult, merely by having no interest in the circus of the media-toxified consumerism world. I value art. You do not make a living with art unless you are blessed by fucking God, or you produce art on a predictable basis with specific expectations from somebody who is intending to use such art for commercial purposes.

Thus, since resource exchange and the pursuit of individual affluence is a completely 100% unnegotiable facet of living in this world, which, I am unconvinced can be escaped from without killing oneself, I return to my initial inquiry.

Do YOU have any experience selling drugs, particularly psychedelics or anything related to that sphere (not coke, big pharma shit, meth, heroin, etc.). What is the smartest way to approach it, and what mistakes do those that get busted make?

Criticism is welcome, but I would also like to get answers that relate to my question, and not judgment or some regurgitated answer like "just go to school" or "just learn a trade" (no disrespect to tradesman, however, I would rather leverage skills I already have than start from ground zero with something else, earning a shit, barely livable wage for years until I get to make decent income).


Edited by Anonymous (09/12/23 06:33 PM)


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Anonymous #2

Re: Selling drugs on the dark web [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #28466840 - 09/12/23 06:41 PM (4 months, 13 days ago)

I know you don’t want to hear this.

Seems like a short term solution to a long term problem at best.
It could turn into felony charges and then your problems are now way worse.
There really isn’t much money to be had from psychedelics.
Learn a trade.
If you love art, become a tattoo artist.


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Anonymous #3

Re: Selling drugs on the dark web [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #28466970 - 09/12/23 08:40 PM (4 months, 13 days ago)

If you want to make a living selling drugs on the dark web, you need to sell more than just mushrooms and DMT. You'll need to sell all the psychedelics, LSD, mescaline, you name it, plus probably MDMA and whatever else you're comfortable with.

You'll also need to be comfortable with the inside of a prison cell, since being arrested is part of the game. Prison isn't as bad as people make it out to be. That's one of the reasons it doesn't work so great as a deterrent. Once you've been in, you realize it's not that bad, and feel more emboldened to continue whatever you were doing that landed you there.

You'll have to convert your profits into things that the police can't find and seize, like gold, buried somewhere.

Is it worth it? No, but someone has to do it or the rest of us wouldn't be able to get drugs like LSD.


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Anonymous #4

Re: Selling drugs on the dark web [Re: Anonymous #3] * 1
    #28466978 - 09/12/23 08:51 PM (4 months, 13 days ago)

The Dark Web.

Interview of DarkWebs number one opium dealer. Turns out is was Bayer Aspirin back black market. Coca Cola makes cocaine, they pay the tax.


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Anonymous #5

Re: Selling drugs on the dark web [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #28467357 - 09/13/23 09:21 AM (4 months, 13 days ago)

Bad idea but I came across a handful of new ones the otherday. Theyre called marketplaces. Solely selling drugs, mostly cannabis. Pretty sure theyre honeypots run by the DEA. Lots of ppl sell thru Telegram as well now
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Anonymous #6

Re: Selling drugs on the dark web [Re: Anonymous #5] * 4
    #28468928 - 09/14/23 04:13 PM (4 months, 12 days ago)

Don't do any interviews with VICE


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Anonymous #7

Re: Selling drugs on the dark web [Re: Anonymous #6] * 5
    #28469621 - 09/15/23 07:17 AM (4 months, 11 days ago)

Don't even need to use the dark web if you live in canada. Our current federal government is so relaxed with drug laws because they love having as much of the population drunk or drugged up as possible.

Its another one of their distraction tactics to help people from realizing what's really going on,getting angry about it,grouping together and actually doing something about it.

Feed them drugs and keep em happy and confused kind of deal....


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Anonymous #3

Re: Selling drugs on the dark web [Re: Anonymous #7] * 1
    #28470463 - 09/15/23 08:46 PM (4 months, 10 days ago)

Weird thing for someone on a drug forum to say.


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Anonymous #8

Re: Selling drugs on the dark web [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #28476748 - 09/20/23 04:59 PM (4 months, 6 days ago)

Why not move to a legal or decriminalized area and be a trip guide?  People pay for convenience, so you could sell along with it.  Then you make money without the risk.  And feel fulfilled and genuine in your work.

It probably wouldn't sustain you financially but would at least give you the feeling of satisfaction you crave and allow you to work less hours in a meaningless part-time job.

If it was me, I'd get in the trades and make good money, doing psychedelics as a side thing/for extra money during layoffs.  People also pay for anonymity/security.  If I knew a coworker or somebody personally who sold LSD, I'd pay triple, quadruple, or more than darkweb prices for a cash transaction with a known entity without putting my address out there.  I refuse to accept the risk of purchasing on the darkweb so I go without.  There are tons of people like me who would be willing to pay out the ass for an oldschool transaction with a reliable source.  Especially in the trades where everyone makes six figures and tends toward the more "openminded" end of the spectrum when it comes to drugs.  Its an environment ripe for what you want to do.


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Anonymous #5

Re: Selling drugs on the dark web [Re: Anonymous #8] * 1
    #28477452 - 09/21/23 09:07 AM (4 months, 5 days ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #8 said:
Why not move to a legal or decriminalized area and be a trip guide?  People pay for convenience, so you could sell along with it.  Then you make money without the risk.  And feel fulfilled and genuine in your work.

It probably wouldn't sustain you financially but would at least give you the feeling of satisfaction you crave and allow you to work less hours in a meaningless part-time job.

If it was me, I'd get in the trades and make good money, doing psychedelics as a side thing/for extra money during layoffs.  People also pay for anonymity/security.  If I knew a coworker or somebody personally who sold LSD, I'd pay triple, quadruple, or more than darkweb prices for a cash transaction with a known entity without putting my address out there.  I refuse to accept the risk of purchasing on the darkweb so I go without.  There are tons of people like me who would be willing to pay out the ass for an oldschool transaction with a reliable source.  Especially in the trades where everyone makes six figures and tends toward the more "openminded" end of the spectrum when it comes to drugs.  Its an environment ripe for what you want to do.





I get why you'd want to do a 2 in 1 business for convience sake but unless youre selling cannabis its bound to get shut down by LE & the DEA.


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Anonymous #8

Re: Selling drugs on the dark web [Re: Anonymous #5]
    #28477729 - 09/21/23 02:35 PM (4 months, 5 days ago)

In regards to the trip guide who also sells?  I don't think that would happen in a legal or decriminalized setting.

As for selling to coworkers, he'd have to just deal in small quantities, never keeping much on hand and only selling to known coworkers, no friends of friends etc.  No cop is going to go into deep cover and learn a trade and get a job busting ass to nab a smalltime dude who sells a few shrooms here and there.  And at work it would be easy to just leave the drugs somewhere and have the buyer leave their money in the same place to avoid any face to face exchange in case of a wire etc.

Damn, this actually sounds easy.  I'd be too paranoid to ever try it but seriously it couldn't be that hard.


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Anonymous #5

Re: Selling drugs on the dark web [Re: Anonymous #1] * 1
    #28479916 - 09/23/23 12:23 PM (4 months, 3 days ago)

Its one of thosr situations where it'll only work on a small scale. All it takes is 1 DEA agent to infultrate and ur screwed. :goodluck:


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Anonymous #9

Re: Selling drugs on the dark web [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #28479952 - 09/23/23 12:50 PM (4 months, 3 days ago)

Mushrooms are a real grind no matter how you slice it. There are definitely much easier ways to make money, and for any long-term prospects you need to be very sure of what you're doing. You need a solid reputation for consistency and quality, and a robust social/cultural network. Trying to do it on the darkweb would mean generating multiple pounds and letting them go, to strangers, for next to nothing. Not to mention, a lot of risk for not much reward.

To even think about doing it off the darkweb, you need to know exactly what your situation is where you live and/or hang. Both the general local culture and legal climate, and how you fit into those things. Prior experience as a weed guy or gal, and any lingering social connections from that, would help immensely. If you can't develop a reasonably fleshed-put picture of how it would all work, then it probably won't.

For any longevity at all, you need to be in it for the right reasons, and maintain an impeccable reputation for honesty and integrity. For both safety and ethical reasons, dealing in other drugs should be avoided (but, yah know, "Marijuana's not a drug!!")

In general, thinking of it as potential supplemental income and/or something you can use for gifts and barter is probably the best policy. And anyway, the easiest way to move them is to have a compatible day job where you meet the right sorts of people.

Trying to do "one big score" or "deal with the big boys" is how you get ripped off, busted, or just taken advantage of. There isn't a large-scale mushroom market, just dumbass drug dealer types going "Ah yeah, kid, I can flip these alongside my usual baby powder mixed with fentanyl and crappy mdma tabs." And then making up some bullshit lowball numbers. You know, the sort of people you shouldn't be associating with in the first place. If you're too paranoid to deal directly with individuals and develop long-term relationships with them, then just forget the whole thing. There's no ethical or worthwhile fast money out there.

And, remember, you could always end up in jail. So if you're not ultimately OK with that risk, then, again, just forget it. And if you are, well, you know, a coward dies a thousand deaths and all that.

One sort of middle ground between selling and trip-sitting is producing value-added products with standardized dosing, and freely giving people ongoing advice and feedback, pharmacy style. With a side of therapist.


Edited by Anonymous (09/23/23 12:53 PM)


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Anonymous #10

Re: Selling drugs on the dark web [Re: Anonymous #9]
    #28487991 - 09/30/23 05:10 PM (3 months, 27 days ago)

OP, I don't think it would be worth it unless you're already a big player. If you're already a dealer, and looking to expand your market to more customers, I think dw might make sense, but if you just want to jump straight into it, it seems so high risk. Consider that if you get caught you'll be busted by feds. Because if you're shipping drugs across state lines, that violates interstate commerce clause. Which means if busted, you go to a federal penitentiary.

Given that getting busted is always a possibility, how do you determine if it's worth it? For me, I'd have to be making a lot of money. I would need at least double or triple my current salary to think going to prison might be worth it, and even then I'm not sure. Even if you do everything right and never get busted, there's always that what if possibility in the back of your mind. You hear a noise outside your house one night, is it the feds? Is this the end? Personally, as a paranoid individual, I couldn't do it.

Then you have to think how much you'd make. Assuming you're selling shrooms, and growing them yourself, it could ultimately be lucrative, but how much? Let's say you sell an ounce for $150. I feel like you'd have to be selling at least 2-3lbs. per month to make serious side money. And if you're growing multiple pounds per month, that's something of an operation. Not at all impossible, but if you've never grown shrooms before, could be a pain. On top of that, you need to assess the market. There's hundreds if not thousands of other people selling shrooms on the dw. How do you ensure people buy from you? The truth is that these dark web marketplaces aren't really that big, there aren't a ton of people buying from them. Maybe a few hundred thousand customers worldwide total. Your average person is simply too dumb to figure out how to use TOR and cryptocurrency.

And then that brings me to my last point. How badly do you need the money? You'll be getting paid in crypto, either in bitcoin (bad because traceable) or monero. It's easier to offload bitcoin, but it is traceable. Best case scenario is you use localbitcoins.com or localmonero.com and you exchange your crypto for cash in person with some random individual. Works great until someone shows up with a gun and has you send over all your crypto then doesn't pay you. And if you use bitcoin and try to cash out via coinbase or something, the tax man has your info, and you may get audited as a result, and you'll have to prove how you got that bitcoin.

Personally, I think it would be only worth it if you're using crypto to buy other stuff. There are websites you can use crypto to buy gift cards, and that would likely be your best bet. Otherwise you could use it simply to stack crypto, which isn't a bad idea, but it could all go to 0 tomorrow


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Anonymous #11

Re: Selling drugs on the dark web [Re: Anonymous #10] * 1
    #28499422 - 10/10/23 09:23 PM (3 months, 16 days ago)

:kidsmirk:


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