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The Subtle Language of Female Flirting * 3
    #28466088 - 09/12/23 04:44 AM (4 months, 14 days ago)

So last weekend, I had a mini breakthru. I could interpret women's subtle non-verbal flirting and I was subtly flirting back towards them, unconsciously and automatically. Its like I had just "got it". While dancing with/near them, I had this feeling that I just "understood" the non-verbal language of female flirting. Its such a strange feeling, thinking automatically on something that has always mystified and confused me in the past....

Female flirting is like a short-story written with their bodies and facial expressions. It kinda reminds me of how male birds put on dances for females. Its very much similar to that, but much more subtle.

Key things to do:

1) Pay Attention. Female flirting can be very brief as well as subtle.

2) Keep Her Attention. You have a small window, say about 1 - 2 minutes, to keep her attention.

3) Think/Act Automatically. This is the toughest part. Dont hesitate. Just react in a playful, flirty, enticing way and she will respond in a positive way. Timing is crucial.

4) Stay Loyal. Another tough part of flirting. If you flirt with another woman, and she notices, she'll likely lose interest in you.

5) Read Her Story. Read her flirts and respond accordingly. She'll take you on a mini-journey and its up to you to see where it goes.

6) Confidence is About Being Comfortable. If you can be comfortable flirting with a beautiful woman who flirts back with you, than you have made a major breakthru in understanding the Subtle Language of Women. With practice, you can overcome your personal fears and insecurities. Thats one of the true values of being confident.

It only took me about 21 years to come to this understanding of women. And its forever changed my outlook on Life. πŸ™

I believe this skill has to be learned from personal experience. It cannot be taught easily from one person to another. It has to be you and the woman, interacting 1-to-1, in the moment. Then the Understanding of the Non-Verbal Flirting Language of the Ladies will follow...πŸ’žπŸ’“πŸ’•πŸ’πŸ’–πŸ’šπŸ’œπŸ’›πŸ§‘πŸ–€πŸ‘ΈπŸ‘©πŸ‘©πŸ¦ΈπŸ§™β™€οΈπŸ”¬πŸ§œβ™€οΈ


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Re: The Subtle Language of Female Flirting [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #28466166 - 09/12/23 08:00 AM (4 months, 14 days ago)

Those are all excellent points and good to hear you've had a breakthrough and are enjoying your interactions with the fairer sex

I'd have to say #4 could us a little tweaking.  Keeping your attention focused on one woman can work like you said, but letting her see you pay attention to other women can spark her competitive nature making you even more desirable.  It may even literally drive her wild

#3 is very important also. Don't get stuck in your head overthinking things..

Lastly, everyone's favorite subject is themselves.  Ask a couple open ended leading questions about her and then listen closely.  She'll likely say more than she means to


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Re: The Subtle Language of Female Flirting [Re: TheStallionMang] * 2
    #28469682 - 09/15/23 07:56 AM (4 months, 11 days ago)

I thought there would've been more interest in this convo since it seems there are a good number of dudes here that struggle with this


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Re: The Subtle Language of Female Flirting [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #28469855 - 09/15/23 10:16 AM (4 months, 11 days ago)

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It only took me about 21 years to come to this understanding of women. And its forever changed my outlook on Life. πŸ™

I believe this skill has to be learned from personal experience. It cannot be taught easily from one person to another.




You don't think you could have benefited from some mentorship two decades ago?  I sure could have.  It's taken me reading some books to understand and dismantle all of the wrong ideas that I've embraced regarding women.  I do agree, that learning to be seductive and flirt with women is something one must develop and experience first-hand.


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Re: The Subtle Language of Female Flirting [Re: TheStallionMang] * 1
    #28470078 - 09/15/23 01:46 PM (4 months, 11 days ago)

Good advice! The competition thing is actually a really good point. I see that as well, having more ladies around can drive competition between them. Its tricky keeping multiple ladies interested in you in that sort of context, its definitely possible for sure.

RJ Tubs, oh 100%. Any guy who has a mentor like that is very lucky. Ive had brief mentoring in the past, but it was inconsistent so the bro-help wasnt super helpful but it was still helpful in the moment. Sometimes you just gotta self-teach when you got no one else.


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Re: The Subtle Language of Female Flirting [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #28470388 - 09/15/23 06:42 PM (4 months, 11 days ago)

Mentorship is important. I think it’s in older guys’ nature to pass knowledge when possible and it’s pretty understandable to feel confused about women. I’m certainly no expert. Just old enough to know some stuff

Should’ve mentioned that the whole competition thing is good in the beginning but I don’t recommend using it in a relationship. I consider that a dirty trick at that point.


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Re: The Subtle Language of Female Flirting [Re: TheStallionMang]
    #28470517 - 09/15/23 09:40 PM (4 months, 10 days ago)

:lol:

Yes! Dont use the competition tactic in a relationship. Bad news!

Rarely can i share this kind of info about dating and attraction so i had to share these thoughts!


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    #28471735 - 09/16/23 10:42 PM (4 months, 9 days ago)

my strategy was usually just to use a lot of eye contact. then just start talking and ask a lot of questions about them, and eventually wed have sex. worked pretty well haha, but i wasnt much of a one night stand kind of guy. id usually do that with chicks i wanted to start a relationship with.

married now so theres no harm in releasing this information, whats she gonna do haha. use it well my friends!


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Re: The Subtle Language of Female Flirting [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #28473528 - 09/18/23 09:41 AM (4 months, 8 days ago)

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Key things to do:

1) Pay Attention. Female flirting can be very brief as well as subtle.




:thumbup:

Pay attention, but not too much attention.  I've made this common mistake, like so many others. It's a fine line.  It can be easy to slip into Mr. Nice Guy mode.  Don't do it!

Some birds and other animals are hard-wired for mating dance behaviors. It's part of their cognitive software.  But humans aren't.  If a male has trouble even speaking with a female, how can he ever learn the dance?


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Re: The Subtle Language of Female Flirting [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #28473563 - 09/18/23 10:04 AM (4 months, 8 days ago)

I'm hearing alot of respectful, normal, pop-psy insights, in which no one can reasonably find fault. It sounds like you want to be a good person.

Higher, cognitive function and lust are two different orders of reasoning. 

Also, there is zero discussion on how she is supposed to gain and keep his attention.


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Re: The Subtle Language of Female Flirting [Re: durian_2008] * 2
    #28473628 - 09/18/23 11:12 AM (4 months, 8 days ago)

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Also, there is zero discussion on how she is supposed to gain and keep his attention.




Exposing her ankles is sufficient.


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    #28473646 - 09/18/23 11:19 AM (4 months, 8 days ago)

Are you saying, she knows what to do?


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Re: The Subtle Language of Female Flirting [Re: durian_2008]
    #28473778 - 09/18/23 01:32 PM (4 months, 8 days ago)

If she's not progressing up to the knees, then what?

Should she be rewarded with extra attention?


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Re: The Subtle Language of Female Flirting [Re: durian_2008]
    #28474234 - 09/18/23 08:34 PM (4 months, 7 days ago)

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Are you saying, she knows what to do?




No, that just isn’t what we’re discussing here


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Re: The Subtle Language of Female Flirting [Re: durian_2008]
    #28474328 - 09/18/23 09:35 PM (4 months, 7 days ago)

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I'm hearing alot of respectful, normal, pop-psy insights, in which no one can reasonably find fault. It sounds like you want to be a good person.

Higher, cognitive function and lust are two different orders of reasoning. 

Also, there is zero discussion on how she is supposed to gain and keep his attention.




Indeed they are two different ways of thinking. Lust and non-verbal flirting can be intitutive and intertwined. Trying to flirt using critical, analytical thinking probably wont work so well.

No need to discuss how a woman should gain/keep the attention of a guy, as most already know exactly what to do! Most women learn early in life how to flirt with people they are attracted to, almost like a born-into quality.


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Re: The Subtle Language of Female Flirting [Re: durian_2008]
    #28475456 - 09/19/23 06:35 PM (4 months, 7 days ago)

There also wasn't an option, in which the male initiates.

You're implicitly supposed to be waiting on her, hand-and-foot, until she decides that you are good and ready.

Then, be an opportunist, who never turns it down.


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Re: The Subtle Language of Female Flirting [Re: durian_2008] * 1
    #28475485 - 09/19/23 06:50 PM (4 months, 7 days ago)

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You're implicitly supposed to be waiting on her, hand-and-foot, until she decides that you are good and ready.





This is how you get used and kept in the friend zone


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Re: The Subtle Language of Female Flirting [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 2
    #28475837 - 09/20/23 02:25 AM (4 months, 6 days ago)

Can you be friendzoned in a marriage?


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Re: The Subtle Language of Female Flirting [Re: durian_2008]
    #28475848 - 09/20/23 02:58 AM (4 months, 6 days ago)

oursoulsinmotion, absolutely. I would argue thou that a married couple are already like best friends. So to be "friend-zoned" would be a lack of sex but with a platonic friendship still intact. However, if a wife stops being sexual with her husband, its likely that the marriage will not last and there will be little or no "friend-zone" stage. The relationship would just grow distant without the friendship aspect. At least, thats my personal experience and experience thru others on how they deal with romantic relationships that are starting to go bad.Β 

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There also wasn't an option, in which the male initiates.

You're implicitly supposed to be waiting on her, hand-and-foot, until she decides that you are good and ready.

Then, be an opportunist, who never turns it down.




I mean, you could go full-on simping, but thats not the best way to flirt with ladies. Most ladies do not like heavy simping behaviours.

Often times, attractive women have lots of choices in men to choose from. In this situation, when a woman flirts with a guy, she is choosing him as a potential love interest. The ball is in her court, so to speak. But it can also go the other way where men have the choice (such as really attractive/successful/powerful guys). And thats the basis of men courting women: men persuading women to date/fall in love with them. A great example of how men do this is watching 007 movies: James Bond is quite the ladies man :sadyes:

Ive seen both sides of it. In some situations, when a guy tries to flirt with a woman, it doesnt go so well. Perhaps they are unexperienced? Bad timing/technique? Perhaps its better if a woman initiates first? I cant be totally sure.


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Re: The Subtle Language of Female Flirting [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 2
    #28486012 - 09/28/23 05:33 PM (3 months, 29 days ago)

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So last weekend, I had a mini breakthru. I could interpret women's subtle non-verbal flirting and I was subtly flirting back towards them, unconsciously and automatically. Its like I had just "got it". While dancing with/near them, I had this feeling that I just "understood" the non-verbal language of female flirting. Its such a strange feeling, thinking automatically on something that has always mystified and confused me in the past....

Female flirting is like a short-story written with their bodies and facial expressions. It kinda reminds me of how male birds put on dances for females. Its very much similar to that, but much more subtle.

Key things to do:

1) Pay Attention. Female flirting can be very brief as well as subtle.

2) Keep Her Attention. You have a small window, say about 1 - 2 minutes, to keep her attention.

3) Think/Act Automatically. This is the toughest part. Dont hesitate. Just react in a playful, flirty, enticing way and she will respond in a positive way. Timing is crucial.

4) Stay Loyal. Another tough part of flirting. If you flirt with another woman, and she notices, she'll likely lose interest in you.

5) Read Her Story. Read her flirts and respond accordingly. She'll take you on a mini-journey and its up to you to see where it goes.

6) Confidence is About Being Comfortable. If you can be comfortable flirting with a beautiful woman who flirts back with you, than you have made a major breakthru in understanding the Subtle Language of Women. With practice, you can overcome your personal fears and insecurities. Thats one of the true values of being confident.

It only took me about 21 years to come to this understanding of women. And its forever changed my outlook on Life. πŸ™

I believe this skill has to be learned from personal experience. It cannot be taught easily from one person to another. It has to be you and the woman, interacting 1-to-1, in the moment. Then the Understanding of the Non-Verbal Flirting Language of the Ladies will follow...πŸ’žπŸ’“πŸ’•πŸ’πŸ’–πŸ’šπŸ’œπŸ’›πŸ§‘πŸ–€πŸ‘ΈπŸ‘©πŸ‘©πŸ¦ΈπŸ§™β™€οΈπŸ”¬πŸ§œβ™€οΈ




That really rings a bell!

I've been dating 9 months now, slept with 3 women multiple times and went on dates with several others.

So I've been meeting interesting people and making new friends and have been having an overall good time learning and developing my sexuality along the way.

I recognised fomo, I experienced compersion, and I climbed over jealousy.

Every woman communicates differently and I had better chemistry with some more or less than others, but they were all fun and enjoyable to be with.

I've seen and experienced this kind of communication style and applied myself well before, but I wouldn't say I was as aware of the idea as I am now, so thanks!


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    #28486063 - 09/28/23 06:34 PM (3 months, 29 days ago)

(Not literal quotes.)



Sorry if I said something horrible or forward, please let me know whether I have read you right... The white knight in me thought you were awesome because (something wholesome)... But, the mischievous side of me thinks you want to piss off your dad.

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Re: The Subtle Language of Female Flirting [Re: durian_2008] * 1
    #28486111 - 09/28/23 07:12 PM (3 months, 29 days ago)

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(Not literal quotes.)



Sorry if I said something horrible or forward, please let me know whether I have read you right... The white knight in me thought you were awesome because (something wholesome)... But, the mischievous side of me thinks you want to piss off your dad.

:mypleasure:




I don't have a dad. My father told me he's not a dad a long time ago, and he lived up to that expectation very well. I know he's not involved in my life.

Some people are saucer than others my friend, but it doesn't make this chilly dip any less spicy than it is.


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    #28486288 - 09/28/23 10:42 PM (3 months, 28 days ago)

Pardon my clumsy use of the reply-to function, a frequent cause of confusion.

I meant to show a silly example of flirting, not particularly addressed to anyone.


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    #28486289 - 09/28/23 10:43 PM (3 months, 28 days ago)

But, respects to Pastor M's daughter, if she's reading, somewhere out there. :heart::stoned:


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Re: The Subtle Language of Female Flirting [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #28486476 - 09/29/23 07:36 AM (3 months, 28 days ago)

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In some situations, when a guy tries to flirt with a woman, it doesnt go so well. Perhaps they are unexperienced? Bad timing/technique? Perhaps its better if a woman initiates first? I cant be totally sure.




One challenge is that male female interaction is often fast and fleeting and lacks continuity.  It's very frequent that men might see a woman briefly and occasionally, with fairly big gaps in time.  That can make it very hard.  One problem is that with big gaps, fantasy can contaminate the mind.  You don't know the woman, but your mind makes up tons of stuff about who she is.  That's a bad road to go down.

Timing, pacing, and the setting is very important in the world of seductive flirtation.  It can't be rushed.  But it often is, and frequently not received positively.  You can push away a woman who has the potential to be receptive to you.  That's why your strategy matters.


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