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The Doomer idealogy.
#28465869 - 09/11/23 09:19 PM (4 months, 14 days ago) |
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I get it. Yet still I find hope in life though I see the shit in it. Thank you psycheldelics and not fent, tranq, crack, heroin, cocaine, meth.
I see through the fake. Not difficult. And on a website called the shroomery lol. Materialists and no integrity, yeah is stupid to me.
Basic. Even in that level. Dumb. The pleasure paradox and just ego and arrogance. On with life, one can see through it. The carrot on a stick. All of things that are worth are outside of one.
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Re: The Doomer idealogy. [Re: Barnaby]
#28465990 - 09/12/23 12:25 AM (4 months, 14 days ago) |
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Thanks. God at least it wasn't a ban. Go Trudeau in the future. Wonderful man. Best heart for all of us.
Because politics and drinking have no place on any forum on the shroomery. Or sports, or quite much anything nowadays.
Such positive and progressive people. A happy note.
The Doomer changed from a doomer to a Bloomer!
Great futures for all!
Didn't realize that is the future for all of us. Am aware now.  
Bought a handle of Seagrames and 12 pints in a pack of Coors. Have to budget a bit. Would usually be Grey Goose or Belvedere, like the Hotel and a 12 of Dead Guy Ale, still the best I have had IMO.
Times are tough. But fun. Going to New Orleans. Shit. I really have no complaints but contribute to Oprah and the Rock as they are poor as shit and buying up land in Maui like nothing else to their cause!
Shroom mods. All for it and fake humanity.
There is positivity! Not a big believer in the future of mankind.
The game is rigged. And it is all the more apparent as time goes on. Some recognize, re-to oneself, cognize, to what is reality and what is bullshit.
Life is great, live it out and learn. Point of it all. Is not getting better but spirits/spirtual law spits in the face of the know it all mods. Do any of them ever use psychedelics or drink from time to time? Is so dumb to me.
Carlin puts it better. If you can't a sense of a humor about life, while still respecting it that just sucks. The most miserable people in life I have been around and met have no love for music or humor.
One of my best friends in life, a Native American gave me peyote. I don't even remember if I payed for it or not and I think he just gave it to me. Native Americans, those that get it, get it. He knew I loved and respected him and had integrity.
Lost in his own way. But not in a mean spirited way. We just respected each other and was strange because he was still learning white man culture. And yes, some can be trusted and never that he didn't with me just their is something about complete honesty. Was strange how he endlessly year after year just we connected.
Just being on the shroomery for over a decade and reading and posting why people judge the most idiotic of things.
Edited by Barnaby (09/12/23 12:56 AM)
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Re: The Doomer idealogy. [Re: Barnaby]
#28466030 - 09/12/23 01:14 AM (4 months, 14 days ago) |
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Made me laugh when the announcer said, GERMANY FINALLY CONQUERS THE WORLD! At the end of it. Made me laugh. Guy said it, no joke. When they won the basketball.
Reminds me of Norm McDonald jokes.
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Re: The Doomer idealogy. [Re: Barnaby]
#28466032 - 09/12/23 01:16 AM (4 months, 14 days ago) |
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Death and decay needs life as fuel.
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Re: The Doomer idealogy. [Re: Barnaby] 1
#28466036 - 09/12/23 01:25 AM (4 months, 14 days ago) |
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Carlin def painted what seems to be a very accurate picture of American life, but it's always been pretty bad, like, before the threat of nuclear Holocaust, most people really believed in the church so folks were living in constant fear of the rapture, before that, sabertooth tigers and the Huns, the world has always been teetering on the brink, maybe it always does!
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Re: The Doomer idealogy. [Re: Barnaby]
#28466777 - 09/12/23 05:48 PM (4 months, 13 days ago) |
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Yeah.
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Re: The Doomer idealogy. [Re: Barnaby] 1
#28467866 - 09/13/23 05:24 PM (4 months, 12 days ago) |
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I think in general, when we choose to focus on things that are great, we can overcome our own natural gloomy-doomy ideology. Humans are drawn to negatives, and we are willing to work harder to avoid a $100 loss than we are to make a $100 gain.
Many are saying the world is a terrible place, things are circling the drain, yada yada.
However, I think if we look at the median global standard of living, food quality, average lifespan, average education, et cetera,... we are actually doing very well over the last 500 years on an upward trajectory.
We can choose our focus.
We are alive, and we still have time to impact other lives in a positive way! I will continue to do so even on my deathbed. : )
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Moses_Davidson said: I think in general, when we choose to focus on things that are great, we can overcome our own natural gloomy-doomy ideology. Humans are drawn to negatives, and we are willing to work harder to avoid a $100 loss than we are to make a $100 gain.
Many are saying the world is a terrible place, things are circling the drain, yada yada.
However, I think if we look at the median global standard of living, food quality, average lifespan, average education, et cetera,... we are actually doing very well over the last 500 years on an upward trajectory.
We can choose our focus.
We are alive, and we still have time to impact other lives in a positive way! I will continue to do so even on my deathbed. : )
Relative to 500 years ago we've made a heck of a lot of progress, that's true.
The world is full of pockets that are oases to the greater shadow of doubt around the representation of the majorities.
I think it diminishes the complexity of the 21st century to simplify it as being better than the 1500's.
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Re: The Doomer idealogy. [Re: sudly] 1
#28468126 - 09/13/23 08:46 PM (4 months, 12 days ago) |
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You're not wrong, but in a world where everyone has a computer in their pocket that tells them every day that the planet is right about to die,
Sometimes you gotta simply marvel at indoor plumbing and supermarkets. Not for the strength to go to work, but for the strength not to give half a hoot about the people who think they run the world.
They are not as powerful as their media is constantly repeating 24/7
I think the real power elite are the folks that are doing things for their local communities, everything else is professional wrestling.
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Moses_Davidson said: ... We can choose our focus. ...
how are we more able to choose our focus?
We focus on things that we are attached to.
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The "We". Gangs are big on the "We." Wow. No education and no fan of history and can't afford a Netflic subscription.
Wonderful people. The All powerful "We" and intimidation and threats and guns and soldiers. Never turns out well does it?
Good for El Salvador. Biden wlcomes you asylum seekers here in the United States. Just a joke. try to get out and come the U.S.A and they will give you a hotel to stay in downtown Manhattan. Enjoy the land of liberty and globalism. Have to destroy America first.
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Almost like the ol, 'poor people have fridges, what's there to complain about?'
The real evil in the world is when your tax dollars aren't given back to you in any meaningful way.
And I don't want kids because they won't survive in the world and by the time they're 30 they're fucked. That and I actually value my independence.
Legislation is extremely powerful in how it affects the economic life of people within society.
To think it isn't those in power who are responsible for many woes in society is cute but frankly naive, but hey, ignorance is bliss. I sometimes think it'd be nice to have.
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Re: The Doomer idealogy. [Re: sudly] 1
#28468403 - 09/14/23 02:13 AM (4 months, 12 days ago) |
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No man it is nuts it's bleak as hell it drives me bonkers but I love Spotify and Amazon and being able to buy jeans at the same place I get my groceries and people used to die way more often and we didn't have anesthesia or penicillin or fuckin cigarettes and icecream or weed gummies from the store or a bunch of other shit we may appreciate the hell out of till we can get out from under the oppressive chokehold capitalism seems to have on everything lately. So fuck yeah with your fuck yeah, I mean that!!
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shit's the same as its always been, shit.
lots of good shit, lots of bad shit, none of it good, none of it bad, all of it smelly.
i'm just glad to be able to smell it at all, even if its shit, and even if said smelling of said shit is only temporary, it makes the shit smell all the better, almost like roses...like, shitty roses. mhm.
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Man, people will be listening to Speakerboxx/The Love Below 100's of years from now..
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Re: The Doomer idealogy. [Re: Barnaby]
#28469551 - 09/15/23 06:12 AM (4 months, 11 days ago) |
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I am removed from so many users I don't even know what people are relplying to any more.
Is amusing to me.
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Re: The Doomer idealogy. [Re: sudly]
#28469556 - 09/15/23 06:16 AM (4 months, 11 days ago) |
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Darwin is not a hero of mine.
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Re: The Doomer idealogy. [Re: Barnaby]
#28469559 - 09/15/23 06:20 AM (4 months, 11 days ago) |
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The Disney CEO says they are going to make a more cultural impactful character to play Jack Sparrow. He/She/Them will bring in billions at the box office and he wants to make spinoffs of the movie. Investors said no. Why?
Seen Disney stock lately and Depp told them to fuck off yet they will bring in someone better! Sure dumb fuck. Stocks with Disney are doing great and I say invest in them. And go see Snow Brown when it comes out.
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Re: The Doomer idealogy. [Re: Barnaby]
#28469637 - 09/15/23 07:24 AM (4 months, 11 days ago) |
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the parody is funny
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Re: The Doomer idealogy. [Re: Barnaby]
#28469835 - 09/15/23 09:55 AM (4 months, 11 days ago) |
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The Disney CEO says they are going to make a more cultural impactful character to play Jack Sparrow.
What if Depp plays the character Jacklyn Sparrow, who identifies as a black trans woman?
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Re: The Doomer idealogy. [Re: Barnaby] 3
#28470714 - 09/16/23 04:46 AM (4 months, 10 days ago) |
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Barnaby said: Darwin is not a hero of mine.
He won the battle to publish so he gets his name to it, but evolution is the real hero.
Adapt, change, conquer.
Or divide, fight and be trampled.
Culture is such a toxic thing at times, from focusing on it over economic issues to judging how other people enjoy or express themselves, it all seems a me thing that people want to make a you thing.
Would be funny to see Jack sparrow as a trans black woman though lol, as a swash buckling dick guzzling cock gobbler.
We all need a bit of that in our lives sometimes.
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Moses_Davidson said: ... We can choose our focus. ...
how are we more able to choose our focus?
1. Garbage in, garbage out. We can control the content we feed into our brains. Is it positive, encouraging, and uplifting?
2. We are the average of our five closest friends. We become the people we spend time with. We can choose our friends carefully and limit our exposure to negativity.
3. One can be aware of one's thoughts, and redirect as needed. Some of this discussion seems to be a group meditation on negativity. We cultivate that to which we give our cerebral energy.
4. One can change one's posture (state follows physiology) and then practice gratitude. One cannot simultaneously grumble and practice gratitude.
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Re: The Doomer idealogy. [Re: Barnaby]
#28470755 - 09/16/23 06:35 AM (4 months, 10 days ago) |
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Barnaby said: I am removed from so many users I don't even know what people are relplying to any more.
Is amusing to me.
People who have to remove many individuals from their lives are often the common denominator of many problems.
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redgreenvines said:
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Moses_Davidson said: ... We can choose our focus. ...
how are we more able to choose our focus?
1. Garbage in, garbage out. We can control the content we feed into our brains. Is it positive, encouraging, and uplifting?
2. We are the average of our five closest friends. We become the people we spend time with. We can choose our friends carefully and limit our exposure to negativity.
3. One can be aware of one's thoughts, and redirect as needed. Some of this discussion seems to be a group meditation on negativity. We cultivate that to which we give our cerebral energy.
4. One can change one's posture (state follows physiology) and then practice gratitude. One cannot simultaneously grumble and practice gratitude.
you said 1. Garbage in, garbage out. We can control the content we feed into our brains. Is it positive, encouraging, and uplifting? I agree to a certain extent, that yes we can make distinctions between what is meritorious and worth carrying forward, and what is better disengaged with, left behind or disposed of. (here the reflex action is grasp, put, or let go - not control)
you said 2. We are the average of our five closest friends. We become the people we spend time with. We can choose our friends carefully and limit our exposure to negativity. I agree that when we mix with and mirror our friends it sticks with us, the number 5 is arbitrary. But the idea here is that it is our own responsibility to determine what we reflexively grasp, put or let go of, not the responsibility of our friends, and that involves practice as well as mimicry (mental contamination).
you said 3. One can be aware of one's thoughts, and redirect as needed. Some of this discussion seems to be a group meditation on negativity. We cultivate that to which we give our cerebral energy. I agree that we can observe our mental contents, and that is probably the most spiritual thing we ever do do (i.e. attending the ineffable) but even here the best I seem able to do is grasp or let go; and when I grasp there is some tension, but the idea recirculates and ramifies (reflexively) branching out further into other related perceptions; and when I let go, I can see it as it is in it's own light (mental energy) then it fades. I do not think this is really control - more like working with what can be done with associative mind.
and you said 4. One can change one's posture (state follows physiology) and then practice gratitude. One cannot simultaneously grumble and practice gratitude. and again I agree a lot about physical body tension and positional proprioceptive signals and semaphores which cue ongoing perceptions in the stream of consciousness. I think of it like steering a bicycle, swerving from one side to another which we can learn to do with microtremors such that it seems we are balanced on two wheels - it is a precarious thing. None the less, with awareness, yes we can hang loose and hang tight while making progress through our day.
Again I see it more as reaction or reflex perceptions rather than control.
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