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Re: meditation prep [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28467851 - 09/13/23 05:10 PM (4 months, 12 days ago)

From a perspective of multitasking and efficiency...

We only have so much time here on this earth, so it is good to multitask.

That said I spend time in meditation and prayer while I am walking in the evenings. I find that the exercise and solitude helps put me in a better state in which I can both introspect and listen for the still small voice of heaven's wisdom.


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Re: meditation prep [Re: Moses_Davidson] * 1
    #28467928 - 09/13/23 06:27 PM (4 months, 12 days ago)

meditation is multitasking as well,
there is so much going on including the work of maintaining awareness on the breath, and near effortless resuming when distracted, and being detached from judgement, and staying calm. etc.



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Re: meditation prep [Re: redgreenvines] * 1
    #28469833 - 09/15/23 09:50 AM (4 months, 11 days ago)

For me, meditation involves one activity - observation

Anything beyond that is superfluous.


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Re: meditation prep [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #28470043 - 09/15/23 01:18 PM (4 months, 11 days ago)

without relaxation, and re-commencement, observation becomes distraction and restlessness.
with practice mental contents are undefended and observable in real time.
the relaxed base counters reflex hiding etc.


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Re: meditation prep [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28470898 - 09/16/23 09:36 AM (4 months, 10 days ago)

how does one improve oneself?
how does one improve one's behaviour?

I would rather improve my action than me

if one improves oneself does one improve one's behaviour?
because consciousness is defined by behaviour

it is possible to do 120.000 hours of meditation in 40 years by meditating 5 hours a day

bhante said seasoned meditators meditate 3 or 4 hours a day
that way it takes 60 years or so

just think what would happen if one did that
it would be really good for everyone
like a drawing

bhante said as the meditation deepens it also becomes constant
so one could do it that way too
but it is not as good as seated meditation

funny how it can be felt what one's behaviour becomes
if one does this or that

we desperately need the behaviour to become better

and our action to become less silly
and more serious
and optimize it over the years
it is really important to make a big progress in a year
less drugs or violence
and getting things done more
for a big progress every year I recommend reading redgreenvines' posts


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Re: meditation prep [Re: Ferdinando]
    #28471885 - 09/17/23 04:59 AM (4 months, 9 days ago)

read a page in this every day

https://www.holybooks.com/buddhist-suttas-a-z-the-megapack/

sometimes it doesn't work maybe but at some point you are going to have to get to it

i try to draw a drawing more than I used to every day

and lift weights

happy sunday!

yay!


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Re: meditation prep [Re: Ferdinando]
    #28471907 - 09/17/23 05:37 AM (4 months, 9 days ago)

I had typed a detailed response yesterday, but got distracted towards the end of my typing session, and accidentally closed the page before making it stick.

I had put a lot of effort into mentioning the importance of the middle way, which is in tune with the moment and not so much about judgements, i.e neither better or worse, improving or backsliding, but instead oriented towards clarity and nature.

bear in mind your middle way and your daily experience is yours, your garden is your field of custody, what you take care of, your style and expression.

In meditation follow the breath gently and note all the fleeting changes and particulate mind moments while relaxing. It is an exercise in the middle way, neither too tense or too sloppy.

this is less detailed than yesterday's comment, but maybe useful.


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Re: meditation prep [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28472045 - 09/17/23 08:20 AM (4 months, 9 days ago)

yes it is and cultivating good habits is good too
thanks
thanks a bunch


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Re: meditation prep [Re: Ferdinando]
    #28474574 - 09/19/23 05:21 AM (4 months, 7 days ago)

bhante said that the benefits pile up over the years
about meditation

i found that the benefits of the change of the self pile up over the years

like that you can increase getting things done time from the meditation

so not just that you brush your teeth from the meditation but even if you stopped meditating that it would go in the right direction

so that there is benefit from the change of self instead of just from further meditation and the meditation

also you have to be able to feel that it goes in the right direction with you with the head space of earlier time with your friends

for example my best friend was e and i want to do ok from the view of our head space and that it goes in the right direction with my life always
maybe also seen from our values
former values
getting things done being innocent etc.


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Re: meditation prep [Re: Ferdinando]
    #28474592 - 09/19/23 05:54 AM (4 months, 7 days ago)

I think you are right, especially as when a person is really messed up, then they cannot get anything done, and meditation helps resolve that.


I usually just talk about doing it, but it is true that after doing it for a few years, one's behavior and ability to do things improves.


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Re: meditation prep [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28474881 - 09/19/23 11:24 AM (4 months, 7 days ago)

cool
i had a session after 7 years that seemed to benefit me immensely
like that i became much better at managing
i think it keeps having that effect
somewhat in levels maybe

thanks for being honest and taking me seriously

i myself am becoming honest i highly recommend it

actually from the meditation I have done the way my self changes is better
i am more able to make progress
become more honest etc.


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Re: meditation prep [Re: Ferdinando]
    #28474905 - 09/19/23 11:33 AM (4 months, 7 days ago)

meditation is beneficial for everything maybe
did a session today that seemed that way
after 9 years
i think it takes a long time

the garden (the routine) has to be theurapeutic and something you can stand and endure, something you don't fall as much apart from

the more therapeutic the better maybe

that would be a good goal and aim maybe


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Re: meditation prep [Re: Ferdinando] * 1
    #28474940 - 09/19/23 12:01 PM (4 months, 7 days ago)

you have to find your own way and meaning and improvement


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Re: meditation prep [Re: Ferdinando]
    #28475561 - 09/19/23 07:30 PM (4 months, 6 days ago)

I meditate everyday..

Laying down 40mins

Whenever I think about it during the day.

Good to build attention/focus.

Carry it with you and be honest about how deep your meditation goes.


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Re: meditation prep [Re: BrendanFlock]
    #28475857 - 09/20/23 03:24 AM (4 months, 6 days ago)

there are lots of buddhist books free online
we have to come closer to the noble eightfold path

here are some good books

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wDAnqsfri8nN-MIbVRhcAnve6JgecHFa/view
https://www.bps.lk/olib/bp/bp201s_Nyanatiloka_life-Of-The-Buddha.pdf


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Re: meditation prep [Re: Ferdinando]
    #28477396 - 09/21/23 07:18 AM (4 months, 5 days ago)

what do you think about dalai lama teachings?
i find his books to be almost hugely beneficial

i find that he sais some of what one needs to hear the most

i think they are extremely good in the initial stages

but are they also very good for advanced practitioners and buddhist scholars and people that have come extremely times 10 or 100 far and old people?

what should happen at the very advanced stages what should one study and do?


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Re: meditation prep [Re: Ferdinando]
    #28477436 - 09/21/23 08:33 AM (4 months, 5 days ago)

Mostly quiet admirable although don't repeat the tongue sucking jokes in public  😅


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Re: meditation prep [Re: redgreenvines] * 3
    #28489516 - 10/01/23 11:32 PM (3 months, 25 days ago)

advice:

think when you wake up tell yourself in a very clear and direct way that today wether i am sitting down having a meal or even lying down to rest that i will make something happen all day

and today i will use the day for doing wholesome deeds and not doing unwholesome deeds

and think impermanence three times a day

and think about death three times a day

also pray that you will do of as relatively high a quality as possible all day and same for all there will be that day

and maybe that it will all be of as relatively high a quality as possible all day

and that you will have as positive qualities as possible all day day and same for all there will be that day

and as little negative qualities as possible


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Re: meditation prep [Re: Ferdinando]
    #28489573 - 10/02/23 03:19 AM (3 months, 25 days ago)

Meditation, not to feed, but to heed the hungering pangs of a ferocious beast!


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Re: meditation prep [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #28490491 - 10/02/23 11:19 PM (3 months, 24 days ago)

the buddha's teaching guides :smile:


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