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meditation prep * 3
    #28465258 - 09/11/23 10:54 AM (4 months, 15 days ago)

i was just talking to redgreenvines
we thought we would share it here so you others can get benefit

i have started doing walking meditation before meditation
and bhante said we can sit to greater results afterwards from it
a good thing is to increase with a minute a day
I am at 5 minutes now

i also do excercise before medtation
and you might want to increase that too

a good thing is pushups before meditation
and so is squats and sit ups

it makes the meditation much more enjoyable

and good

and makes the time when you meditate much better

we are supposed to sit with some concentration at the nose
or in the belly

I also do the meditation mantra in mindfulness in plain english (the book (by bhante gunaratana)) which I also highly recommend

"I am about to tread the very same path that has been walked by the buddha and by his great and holy disciples. an indolent person cannot follow that path. may my energy prevail. may I succeed."

I think it one time before the meditation

and the mantra at the beginning of the session: may I be well happy and peaceful. may no harm come to me. me no difficulties come to me. may I always meet with spiritual success. may I also have patience courage understanding and determination to meet and overcome inevitable difficulties prblems and failures in life. may I always rise above them wit morality integrety forgiviness compassion, minfulness and wisdom.

the walking meditation is done by walking slowly 7 steps and thinking "lifting" and "treading" when lifting and treading. then turning around and standing still for 5 seconds and walking 7 more steps maybe with 5 seconds of standing still when arounding too I don't remember

happy trips and good luck

by the way I sit with music but I don't recommend it but I will say that the meditation is very awesome when I sit with music it is very enjoyable and a very good time intense extreme. I listen to pop christmas music and hip hop. it gives progress towards liberation even though the meditation is a little less good and effective with it and more is needed for nibbanna maybe. but it is my favorite activity.

I sit with the mantra "metta" "met" on the out breath and "ta" on the in breath. for 10 min. then 35 min. with "beginning" at the beginning, middle at the middle and "end" at the end of every inhalation and exhalation.

oh and do read all redgreenvines' posts.
maybe share it with your friends.
he can give huge help.

thanks enjoy

work as much as possible


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Re: meditation prep [Re: Ferdinando]
    #28465321 - 09/11/23 11:53 AM (4 months, 15 days ago)

You actually wrote (or spoke) in private to RGVs through PM's or other medium!? :eek: Praise yourself cuz you are a very lucky man! :heart:


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Re: meditation prep [Re: Ferdinando] * 1
    #28465438 - 09/11/23 01:45 PM (4 months, 15 days ago)

I do warmup exercises early in the morning. Mostly core strength and stretching.

It's good to have a daily exercise routine. Only takes 15 minutes unless one wants it to be more.


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Re: meditation prep [Re: Ferdinando] * 1
    #28465498 - 09/11/23 03:10 PM (4 months, 14 days ago)

Thanks Ferdinando,
Yes, Pinky, Ferdie and I do go way way way back with private messages, but some of the dialog could just as well be here on the forum, there really isn't anything we get into these days that is really private. I am just a friend, not a teacher.

Also others here have good ideas as well.

Yesterday today and tomorrow I am and have been moving from one condo to a different apartment, and did not have time for exercise or sitting. Usually it is something I do at least 28 days per month. I am not including lying down meditation which I also tend to do when I wake up an hour or so too early or while I am going to sleep.

I usually do 10 mins on the bike at from 60 watts - 90 watts depending on stamina, then some squats pushups and crunches and stretches and then 40 mins sitting, just "beginning middle end" as Ferdinando explained in his post.

I never feel like exercising, but I force myself otherwise my sedentary life makes my legs and back stiff.

I don't listen to music, but I do hear traffic and my wife doing things, which helps keep me from drifting, and helps keep me attending to changes many times per second and generally aware of shifting mental contents. For me, observing mental contents arising and passing is the idea, and the breath, and "beginning middle end" to me are steady mental contents which I do not differentiate with street noise or other racket in the world. It's all mental content which I try to observe with detachment.

@ Ferdinando, I think you walk your own path, but the Buddha's wisdom is something you care about and in that way it is part of your path. Realistically we only can walk, eat, sleep, sit, think, our own path. The path is the mental content that keeps on happening, part from sensations, and the rest from perceptions or memory reflexes.


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Re: meditation prep [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28465889 - 09/11/23 09:37 PM (4 months, 14 days ago)

Exercise puts stress on the body but nature tends to give us moments and periods of physical stress anyway. Our natural inclination is to conserve energy and use when needed.

This can overcome the instant gratification that is inherent in exercise, which is not insubstantial. There needs to be something to sweeten the pot.

Sometimes it's a game or activity, which also stimulates competitive and cooperative mindsets. Sometimes it's wanting to be faster or stronger, or look better, or to improve cognitive health and acuity, or emotional health, or improve sleep, or to improve mood, or to improve lifespan and quality of lifespan, or to have better energy levels.

Exercise will do all those things to some degree!

Walking, jogging, sprinting, all very important and cover aerobic and anaerobic benefits. It can all be fit in 20 minutes/1 mile. A moderate goal is to work to a mile in 15 minutes for a majority of the benefits. Core exercise and stretching, another 15-20 minutes daily. Half an hour a day to get a majority of the benefits of exercise. Throw in 20 minutes twice a week of strength training if desirable.

That comes out as 30-45 minutes a day. The benefits are so great that it's foolish for anyone at any age to not exercise.


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Re: meditation prep [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28466100 - 09/12/23 05:30 AM (4 months, 14 days ago)

Quote:

redgreenvines said:
I am just a friend, not a teacher.



To me you are a mentor. :heart:


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Re: meditation prep [Re: Pinkerton]
    #28466243 - 09/12/23 09:35 AM (4 months, 14 days ago)

some things seem to work out some ways, even while the effort is simpler.
I am just being friendly and trying not to be a teacher.


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Re: meditation prep [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28466293 - 09/12/23 09:58 AM (4 months, 14 days ago)

The crew: Dip, OC, LE, Ice and RGV's AND Pinky!


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Re: meditation prep [Re: Pinkerton]
    #28466296 - 09/12/23 10:02 AM (4 months, 14 days ago)

:excited:


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Re: meditation prep [Re: Pinkerton]
    #28466541 - 09/12/23 02:06 PM (4 months, 14 days ago)

:lol:


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Re: meditation prep [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #28466911 - 09/12/23 07:52 PM (4 months, 13 days ago)

It's easy to start as a Buddha but extremely hard to finish as one!


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Re: meditation prep [Re: BrendanFlock]
    #28466930 - 09/12/23 08:10 PM (4 months, 13 days ago)

Why do you say that?
what is a Buddha maybe is a better question.


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Re: meditation prep [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28466961 - 09/12/23 08:27 PM (4 months, 13 days ago)

Being excellent for a moment is probable..

Being excellent in every moment?

Impossible.!?


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Re: meditation prep [Re: BrendanFlock]
    #28466965 - 09/12/23 08:33 PM (4 months, 13 days ago)

One FULL clear line! Starting from whenever..

Ending in eternity!


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Re: meditation prep [Re: BrendanFlock]
    #28466988 - 09/12/23 09:05 PM (4 months, 13 days ago)

I think Bill and Ted were excellent.
kinda dumb too, but smart is overrated.


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Re: meditation prep [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28467069 - 09/12/23 10:56 PM (4 months, 13 days ago)

Summer is over rated or is it?


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Re: meditation prep [Re: BrendanFlock]
    #28467191 - 09/13/23 05:34 AM (4 months, 13 days ago)

Mostly over, but this year X-rated


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Re: meditation prep [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28467334 - 09/13/23 08:53 AM (4 months, 13 days ago)

i got a little brighter and more there mind just now during meditation but I'm not sure it's permanent


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Re: meditation prep [Re: Ferdinando]
    #28467336 - 09/13/23 08:57 AM (4 months, 13 days ago)

hehe it just happened again my mind keeps becoming brighter and more present from meditation
till im 100 % mindful and without faults i suppose
but that is just a point
enlightenment
i think it is largely based on how much we have meditated


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Re: meditation prep [Re: Ferdinando]
    #28467731 - 09/13/23 03:19 PM (4 months, 12 days ago)

Quote:

Ferdinando said:
i got a little brighter and more there mind just now during meditation but I'm not sure it's permanent



you are right
enlightenment is not a permanent state, it is a way of finding your way, of beginning again, practicing, and enjoying the clarity of that.
the way is personal and always changing.
never permanent,
a teaching of permanent enlightenment is dishonest


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