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Unifloo
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''The Medium is the Message''
#28458198 - 09/04/23 10:18 AM (4 months, 22 days ago) |
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Thinking out loud here or writing. I've been reading Marshall McLuhan and his book and ''the medium is the message''
It offers definition and has provided lexicon of the map and territory of a vague perspective that I have previously been unable to articulate. Over the last 6-7 years or so, the internet has really reached saturation point. What I mean exactly here is that everyone has all time access to all you can eat data all the time - everywhere. There is no scarcity.
One of his key messages is that the concept of the medium needs to be addressed. The content however is un-important. Its all about the overlapping relationship between society/culture and that medium of technology.
Heres an example - we all go to cinemas. The medium is cinema. You sit down, shut up, respect the public space an hopefully enjoy the movie. If you don't like it you can always leave.
Lately, in cinemas, it is common to be surrounded by many people (some of them well into ther 40s+) constantly on their phones, unable to sit still because they are compelled to digitally fidget.
Again, the medium is the message. Not the content.
So, it is common to sit on a public bus or train and some adult is listening to TikTok out loud because....? 15 years ago you could also play loud music out loud in public however it was frowned upon.
Again, the overlap between the medium and its impact upon society.
I notice a lot of posts in general on the internet the really lack context, definition or any real relevance to anything that came hence.
Content is irrelevant. The medium is the message.
Any thoughts on this? Interesting to entertain 'em
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Re: ''The Medium is the Message'' [Re: Unifloo]
#28458226 - 09/04/23 10:38 AM (4 months, 22 days ago) |
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I don’t get it.
Content is irrelevant?
So what you’re trying say is that the content, things that are held or included in something, that content is irrelevant to the medium, an agency or means of doing something, the intervening substance through which impressions are conveyed to the senses or a force acts on objects at a an agency or means of doing something?
The medium is the oil paint, the content is Salvador Dali’s artwork. How in any agreeable nature are you going to tell me that the content is irrelevant it’s the medium?
Relevance, the quality or state of being closely connected or appropriate.
There is more relevance to that of what is finished product, art piece than any relevance of the medium. The artist work be that of to create a defined, closer connection to that of his piece than that of the medium, a tube of oil paint.
If this guys statement rang true you would see oil paint tubes sold at art shows for forget the content to the art shows it’s the medium, the oil paint tubes.
Those philosophical twist books are someone else ‘I’ll create my own distant understanding of something and it will be completely meaningless to others, although it does help my college thesis.’
Too easy it is to use definition of words into the use of words in context to shared ideas, verbal or written, and see of error to so many trying to use words in manner of error. That’s why words have exact definition.
To your own quote, ‘content is irrelevant, the medium is the message,’ and then into, ‘any thoughts on this?’ You completely contradict yourself. Or you would have me detailing this Shroomery.org forum website and this Apple phone I have in hand.
I don’t really see any of responded explanations detailing much of any interest for you already tooted your own horn and I heard the song and don’t see any improvisational bass solo make better to hear of song again.
Whatcha got? Give me a good laugh at not the one holding the content, but to idiocracy.
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Re: ''The Medium is the Message'' [Re: Unifloo]
#28458238 - 09/04/23 10:46 AM (4 months, 22 days ago) |
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Seems like content is important, but when content is everything it's prudent to be selective.
But the masses of humanity are like crack monkeys. The internet has become a reflection of that.
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Unifloo
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Re: ''The Medium is the Message'' [Re: WhoManBeing]
#28458250 - 09/04/23 10:53 AM (4 months, 22 days ago) |
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WhoManBeing said: I don’t get it.
Content is irrelevant?
Whatcha got? Give me a good laugh at not the one holding the content, but to idiocracy.
There ya go. Thank you for illuminating everything I wanted to explore. The medium (yeah I get the irony of me posting on the internet etc etc) is the internet. Everyone has a perspective and an opinion - a take on things. This is the 'Philosophy, Sociology & Psychology' forum after all. What I am thinking about is how culture/internet overlap and how this influences an individual in terms of their every day cognition and behavioral aspects.
Heres another example. Take my first post. That rubbed some feathers eh? Why? Im just some douche on the internet talking about bullshit.
Hook line and sinker someone has to take the bait, feel egotistical about it for some reason, grind their heels in and take a stance. Because.......?
Anyways, I have no hard answers. Is this concept worth discussing in of itself or do you just want to call me out personally?
Content irrelevant. The medium is the message.
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Re: ''The Medium is the Message'' [Re: Unifloo]
#28458256 - 09/04/23 10:57 AM (4 months, 22 days ago) |
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Yeah, you are a douche. Conception here not needed. Douchebag. Lemons. What have you.
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Re: ''The Medium is the Message'' [Re: WhoManBeing] 1
#28458259 - 09/04/23 11:04 AM (4 months, 22 days ago) |
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Wow. Did I offend you?
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Re: ''The Medium is the Message'' [Re: Unifloo]
#28458284 - 09/04/23 11:21 AM (4 months, 22 days ago) |
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Medium is key to realms of content like the external senses. I agree in that sense. Medium is everything, like bodies. If we had kangaroo bodies we'd have a kangaroo's world.
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Re: ''The Medium is the Message'' [Re: Unifloo]
#28458416 - 09/04/23 01:33 PM (4 months, 22 days ago) |
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Unifloo said: Wow. Did I offend you?
No. You did not offend me. This is an online forum. Where’s your Philosophy?
You would have a Kangaroos world and that Dali painting of content would appear just as it is. The medium, you would probably try to eat, get all over your hands and everything else you touch, have making a mess for long time while that medium, the paint, takes to rid of own body and not get near that medium again.
Trouble with definitions and the erroneous connection people make trying to have one word represent another.
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Re: ''The Medium is the Message'' [Re: syncro]
#28458421 - 09/04/23 01:35 PM (4 months, 22 days ago) |
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Historicaly, the message about our time is the medium which distracted us from the environment, social debt and genocide.
It's a diagnostic observation.
I grew up on print and reading. and a bit of TV and movies. it's way different now.
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Unifloo
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Quote:
redgreenvines said: Historicaly, the message about our time is the medium which distracted us from the environment, social debt and genocide.
It's a diagnostic observation.
I grew up on print and reading. and a bit of TV and movies. it's way different now.
Great to read some real insight and perspective on the topic other than someone that cant see the wood from the trees and acts like a teenager
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Re: ''The Medium is the Message'' [Re: Unifloo]
#28462011 - 09/07/23 11:34 PM (4 months, 18 days ago) |
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The medium is the filter through which communication comes through..
Background radiation?
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