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The Greek word νοούμενoν, nooúmenon (plural νοούμενα, nooúmena) is the neuter middle-passive present participle of νοεῖν, noeîn, 'to think, to mean', which in turn originates from the word νοῦς, noûs, an Attic contracted form of νόος, nóos, 'perception, understanding, mind'.[a][4][5] A rough equivalent in English would be "something that is thought", or "the object of an act of thought".
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connect (v.) mid-15c., "to join, bind, or fasten together," from Latin conectere "join together," from assimilated form of com "together" (see con-) + nectere "to bind, tie" (from PIE root *ned- "to bind, tie").
Displaced 16c. by connex (1540s), from French connexer, from Latin *connexare, a supposed frequentative of conectere (past participle stem connex-). Connect was re-established from 1670s.
A similar change took place in French, where connexer was superseded by connecter. Meaning "to establish a relationship" (with) is from 1881. Slang meaning "get in touch with" is attested by 1926, from telephone connections. Meaning "awaken meaningful emotions, establish rapport" is from 1942. Of a hit or blow, "to reach the target," from c. 1920. Related: connected; connecting; connectedness.
cosmos (n.) c. 1200, "the universe, the world" (but not popular until 1848, when it was taken as the English equivalent to Humboldt's Kosmos in translations from German), from Latinized form of Greek kosmos "order, good order, orderly arrangement," a word with several main senses rooted in those notions: The verb kosmein meant generally "to dispose, prepare," but especially "to order and arrange (troops for battle), to set (an army) in array;" also "to establish (a government or regime);" "to deck, adorn, equip, dress" (especially of women). Thus kosmos had an important secondary sense of "ornaments of a woman's dress, decoration" (compare kosmokomes "dressing the hair," and cosmetic) as well as "the universe, the world."
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silence
From Middle English silence, from Old French silence, from Latin silentium (“silence”), from silēns (“quiet, silent”, present participle of silēre) + -ium.
"You have the right to silence," said the police officer.
silentium (genitive silentiī or silentī);
silence, stillness, quiet, noiselessness
Fac silentium!
Be quiet!
Silentio facto.
With silence being obtained.
De Partho silentium est.
Nothing is said about the Parthian.
obscurity inaction, inactivity, cessation, standstill
indoctrinate
in- + doctrine + -ate
To teach with a biased, one-sided or uncritical ideology; to brainwash.
in- From Middle English in-, from Old English in- (“in, into”, prefix), from Proto-Germanic *in, from Proto-Indo-European *h₁én.
doctrine From Middle English, from Old French, from Latin doctrina (“teaching, instruction, learning, knowledge”), from doctor (“a teacher”), from docere (“to teach”); see doctor.
-ate From the Latin perfect passive participle suffixes of first conjugation verbs -ātus, -āta, and -ātum. In Middle English, it was written -at. Doublet of -ee.
conditioning
con + dition + ing
The process of modifying a person or animal's behaviour.
con "swindling," 1889 (in con man), American English, from confidence man (1849), from the many scams in which the victim is induced to hand over money as a token of confidence. Confidence with a sense of "assurance based on insufficient grounds" dates from 1590s. Con artist is attested by 1910.
dition from the Latin dicio From dīcere (“to say”) + -iō. Noun
diciō f (genitive diciōnis);
military or political authority, power, control, rule
Synonyms: potestās, imperium, arbitrium, auctōritās, ductus
sway, control
ing From Middle English -ing, from Old English -ing, -ung (“-ing”, suffix forming nouns from verbs), from Proto-West Germanic *-ingu, *-ungu, from Proto-Germanic *-ingō, *-ungō. Cognate with Saterland Frisian -enge (“-ing”), West Frisian -ing (“-ing”), Dutch -ing (“-ing”), Low German -ing, -ink (“-ing”), German -ung (“-ing”), Swedish -ing (“-ing”), Icelandic -ing (“-ing”). Suffix
-ing
Used to form nouns or noun-like words (or elements of noun phrases) from verbs, denoting the act of doing something, an action, or the embodiment of an action.
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Bigot From French bigot (“a sanctimonious person; a religious hypocrite”), from Middle French bigot, from Old French bigot, of disputed origin. It is most often believed to have derived from the identical Old French derogatory term bigot applied to the overly religious Normans, said to be known for frequently swearing Middle English bi God (“by God”) (compare Old English bī god, Middle High German bī got, Middle Dutch bi gode), which is also thought to be the origin of the surname Bigott, Bygott. (Compare the French use of "goddamns" to refer to the English in Joan of Arc's time, and les sommobiches (see son of a bitch) during World War I). From meaning "someone overly religious" it came to mean "someone overly devoted to their own religious opinion", and then to its current sense.
The French Centre National de Ressources Textuelles et Lexicales supports the Germanic origin theory above. Liberman however opines that this has "too strong a taste of a folk etymological guess invented in retrospect" and prefers Grammont et al.'s theory that it derives from Albigot (“inhabitant of Albi”), named after the commune in southern France where Catharism (also known as Albigensianism) is thought to have originated. Online Etymology Dictionary, however, does not list Grammont and Liberman's theory among their possible origins.
bigot
One who is narrow-mindedly devoted to their own ideas and groups, and intolerant of (people of) differing ideas, races, genders, religions, politics, etc.
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Re: Etymology [Re: spinvis] 2
#28456816 - 09/03/23 08:50 AM (4 months, 22 days ago) |
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That bigot bit is rather interesting nice one! Indoctrinate as well 
vision (n.) c. 1300, "something seen in the imagination or in the supernatural," from Anglo-French visioun, Old French vision "presence, sight; view, look, appearance; dream, supernatural sight" (12c.), from Latin visionem (nominative visio) "act of seeing, sight, thing seen," noun of action from past participle stem of videre "to see," from PIE root *weid- "to see." The meaning "sense of sight" is first recorded late 15c. Meaning "statesman-like foresight, political sagacity" is attested from 1926.
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I found the use of peccadillo interesting in an afterlife book, around how some may view thoughts and behaviors as much more significant 'karmically', than for which 'nature' would actually call.
peccadillo (n.)
"slight sin, petty crime or fault," 1590s (earlier in corrupt form peccadilian, 1520s), from Spanish pecadillo, diminutive of pecado "a sin," from Latin peccatum "a sin, fault, error," noun use of neuter past participle of peccare "to miss, mistake, make a mistake, do amiss; transgress, offend, be licentious, sin," a word of uncertain origin.
Watkins traces it to PIE *ped-ko-, suffixed form of *ped- "to walk, stumble, impair," from root *ped- "foot." But de Vaan is suspicious: "there is no reference to feet in the meaning of peccare. And to 'make a faux pas' ... would hardly be rendered by the word for 'foot', but rather by 'walking.' " He finds a derivation from the root *pet- "to fall" via *pet-ko- "a fall, error" to be "better semantically, but the addition of *-ko- to the bare root seems strange."
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kindle (v.) c. 1200, cundel, "to set fire to, to start on fire," probably from a Scandinavian source akin to Old Norse kynda "to kindle, to light a fire," Swedish quindla "kindle," all of uncertain origin, + frequentative suffix -le. Figurative use (of feelings, passions, etc.) is from c. 1300. Intransitive sense "to begin to burn, to catch fire" is from c. 1400. Related: Kindled; kindling.
knowledge (n.) early 12c., cnawlece "acknowledgment of a superior, honor, worship;" for the first element see know (v.). The second element is obscure, perhaps from Scandinavian and cognate with the -lock "action, process," found in wedlock.
From late 14c. as "capacity for knowing, understanding; familiarity;" also "fact or condition of knowing, awareness of a fact;" also "news, notice, information; learning; organized body of facts or teachings." The sense of "sexual intercourse" is from c. 1400. Middle English also had a verb form, knoulechen "acknowledge" (c. 1200), later "find out about; recognize," and "to have sexual intercourse with" (c. 1300); compare acknowledge.
Never heard the term peccadillo,interesting!
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paradox From Middle French paradoxe, from Latin paradoxum, from Ancient Greek παράδοξος (parádoxos, “unexpected, strange”).
An apparently self-contradictory statement, which can only be true if it is false, and vice versa. "This sentence is false" is a paradox.
A counterintuitive conclusion or outcome. It is an interesting paradox that drinking a lot of water can often make you feel thirsty.
A claim that two apparently contradictory ideas are true. Not having a fashion is a fashion; that's a paradox.
A thing involving contradictory yet interrelated elements that exist simultaneously and persist over time. A person or thing having contradictory properties. quotations He is a paradox; you would not expect him in that political party.
An unanswerable question or difficult puzzle, particularly one which leads to a deeper truth.
introjection 1856, in medicine, from intro- "on the inside, within" + stem abstracted from projection, interjection. In philosophical (1892) and psychoanalytical (1911) uses, from German introjektion; in the former sense the coinage is credited to Swiss-German philosopher Richard Avenarius (1843-1896), in the latter Sándor Ferenczi (1873-1933).
The process whereby the ideas of another are unconsciously incorporated into one's own psyche.
projection Psychoanalytical sense, "attribute to another (unconsciously)" is from 1895 (implied in a use of projective), probably a figurative use from the meaning "throw the mind into the objective world" (1850). Meaning "convey to others by one's manner" is recorded by 1955.
A belief or assumption that others have similar thoughts and experiences to one's own. This includes making accusations that would more fittingly apply to the accuser.
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arcana From Latin arcānus (“hidden, secret”), from arcēre (“to withhold”), arca (“a chest”). From Proto-Italic *arkā, from Proto-Indo-European *h₂erk-. Cognates include Latin arca (“chest, box”), arceō (“I defend”), arx (“fortress”), arcera (“kind of wagon”), Old Armenian արգել (argel, “obstacle”) and Ancient Greek ἀρκέω (arkéō).
Specialized knowledge that is mysterious to the uninitiated.
hidden, secret, private, mysterious
Synonyms: obscūrus, secretus, occultus, clandestinus, perobscūrus Antonyms: conspicuus, manifestus
intimate, personal, confidential trustworthy (to keep a secret)
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#28462068 - 09/08/23 03:48 AM (4 months, 18 days ago) |
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Paradox is definitely a favorite of mine 
It seems to not make sense enough to make sense
sense (n.) late 14c., "meaning, signification, interpretation" (especially of Holy Scripture); c. 1400, "the faculty of perception;" from Old French sens "one of the five senses; meaning; wit, understanding" (12c.) and directly from Latin sensus "perception, feeling, undertaking, meaning," from sentire "perceive, feel, know."
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I wanted to post something from one of the books I've been reading. I remember it since was related to cosmos (and your name triggered it), and the esoteric meaning of the relation of sun and the moon, but I forgot the word and exactly where I read it 
Interesting to see the Western meaning and etymology of the word sense compared to the Buddhist Skandas such as Vedanā.
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Re: Etymology [Re: spinvis] 2
#28469474 - 09/15/23 02:57 AM (4 months, 11 days ago) |
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Shroom day for you spinvis!
I've been learning French the past week or so , all the Spanish speakers at work are gone , now we have French speakers 
It's somewhat easy as far as grammar goes since I do know some spanish rules and they are very similsr being romance languages but wow pronunciation is throwing me way off
I also am seeing the massive influence on English from the Norman's during the invasion of Britain circa 1066
parle in french is "speak" parler "to speak"
parley (n.) "conference, conversation, speech," especially with an enemy, mid-15c., parlai, from Old French parlée, from fem. past participle of Old French parler "to speak" (11c.), from Vulgar Latin *paraulare, from Late Latin parabolare "to speak (in parables)," from parabola "speech, discourse," from Latin parabola "comparison" (see parable).
also from mid-15c. parley (v.)
late 14c., parlen, "to speak, talk, confer," probably a borrowing of Old French parler "to speak" (see parley (n.)). Related: Parleyed; parleying. Meaning "to discuss terms," especially "to confer with an enemy," as on exchange of prisoners, a cease-fire, etc., is by 1560s, from the noun.
also from late 14c.
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"and the esoteric meaning of the relation of sun and the moon"
What is the context?
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connectedcosmos said: Shroom day for you spinvis!
I've been learning French the past week or so , all the Spanish speakers at work are gone , now we have French speakers 
It's somewhat easy as far as grammar goes since I do know some spanish rules and they are very similsr being romance languages but wow pronunciation is throwing me way off
Schroom day to you too connectedcosmos!
How's that going for you? You able to speak Spanish and French fluently now? French was one of the first subjects I dropped way back when during studies, because it was so overly complicated grammar wise.
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syncro said: "and the esoteric meaning of the relation of sun and the moon"
What is the context?

I suspect it's from either 'Helena Petrovna Blavatsky - The Secret Doctrine' or one of the Tantric texts since that's in the recent list of the book reader. However both refer so much to the sun, cosmos, etc that I'm unsure which it was, I suspect the latter
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#28469994 - 09/15/23 12:42 PM (4 months, 10 days ago) |
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You got a little shroomie next to your reg date because it's today not sure if you noticed that but it's what I meant regardless a mush shroomy day to all!
And I cannot speak Spanish fluently, I think I learned in between 350-500 words I can certainly ask for directions and speak enough to carry small conversations, like asking if one has kids or random things like that ,how old are you , happy birthday , just an assortment of random words
Demasiados palabras nueva! Màs lento por favor!
Which raises the question at what point is one bilingual?
I also know quite a few work related terms as that's where I actually spoke it I studied/practiced Spanish on duolingo for 195 days, and also learnt IRL when at work when possible
I've only been doing French for 5 days now The Grammar rules are insane though They would say rabbit blue where we would say blue rabbit , they would say "all of the days" todo de las dias , which just translates to everyday etc
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I did not notice, didn't even know that was a thing. I realize there's more shrooms as well. And if I click on it I see you gave me some shrooms a while back, but can't even see for what, where or how.

Anyway, thanks for both!  Three years, how time flies. Time again for a psychedelic adventure soon seeing that. 
I've lived in South Africa, where some people can speak more than twelve languages, and that indeed raises the question at what point is one bilingual? To me it would be if one speaks more than one, twelve is just something else entirely 
It's impressive already if somebody can speak more than two. So awesome accomplishment connectedcosmos!
Bilingual From Latin bilinguis + -al; equivalent to bi- + lingual. Parasynthetic compound formed of bis (“twice, in two ways”) + lingua (“tongue”) + -is.
Having the ability to speak two languages fluently.
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Re: Etymology [Re: spinvis] 1
#28470087 - 09/15/23 01:53 PM (4 months, 10 days ago) |
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The more shrooms are ratings, you can rate users on here , in general (blue shrooms) and for trades (green shrooms)

I just ordered some bridgesii cacti so I'm going to be working with mescaline in the near future 
Well there is tri-lingual and probably a quad or something or nother but 12 o.O
One of the Spanish people I worked with from guatamala knew a maya language it sounded so kewl
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spinvis said:
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syncro said: "and the esoteric meaning of the relation of sun and the moon"
What is the context?

I suspect it's from either 'Helena Petrovna Blavatsky - The Secret Doctrine' or one of the Tantric texts since that's in the recent list of the book reader. However both refer so much to the sun, cosmos, etc that I'm unsure which it was, I suspect the latter 
I waded into about a third of the Secret Doctrine but fell off. Intriguing but seems to need more than curiosity and entertainment as motive. I'm not overly interested in Theosophy, but its connections to ancient Brahmanism and Tibetan, claiming from that most ancient work, what is it, Book of Dzyan.
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#28470734 - 09/16/23 05:52 AM (4 months, 10 days ago) |
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A rewarding quest into philology & etymology is Beelzebub's Tales to His Grandson or An Objectively Impartial Criticism of the Life of Man
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#28470740 - 09/16/23 06:12 AM (4 months, 10 days ago) |
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Hey welcome to the shroomery!  
Book recommendations I take it? Will have to look them up
Edit - I see it's one book
welcome (n.) Old English wilcuma "welcome!" exclamation of kindly greeting, from earlier wilcuma (n.) "welcome guest," literally "one whose coming suits another's will or wish," from willa "pleasure, desire, choice" (see will (n.)) + cuma "guest," related to cuman "to come," from PIE root *gwa- "to go, come." Similar formation in Old High German willicomo, Middle Dutch wellecome.
return (v.) early 14c., returnen, "to come back, come or go back to a former position" (intransitive), from Old French retorner, retourner "turn back, turn round, return" (Modern French retourner), from re- "back" (see re-) + torner "to turn" (see turn (v.)). Also in part from Medieval Latin retornare, returnare.
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