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Mystical experience on 4g of Penis Envy * 5
    #28456239 - 09/02/23 04:30 PM (4 months, 23 days ago)

This could go in "Psychedelic Experiences" under "Trip Reports", but, since I intend my message exclusively for a mature audience engaged in Spirituality & Mysticism, I am contributing this post here.

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So, I flew in from Florida to take shrooms in Washington DC, where it is decriminalized. I'm on a low dose of Prozac (20 mg) and Abilify (1 mg) (please no pharma lecturing!), so I was worried I wouldn't trip at all (because I've read that SSRIs in particular can block psychedelics). With that in mind, I wanted to "see" a Level 4 or 5 trip and read that 3g of Penis Envy can get you there. So, I took 4g.

Obviously, it's impossible to describe what exactly I experienced. Ineffable would certainly be the word. But it went something like this.

I was listening to music, when I started to feel this amazing sensation of sedation, sleepiness, warm glow, my body became heavy. It was soooooo soothing. The music video images came "alive" and started taking on a 3D sensation. Like, it wasn't static to my computer screen, but it "emerged" out of it. I saw through the metaphorical references of things, and it started communicating to me through symbols. I don't quite know how to describe it. And this was like only 15 minutes into the trip.

I felt weird sensations like I became "ineffable" qualities. And my ego was still there at this part of the early trip, so I got to note how I was experiencing "impossible" sensations. My ego was commenting to me that "see, you always wanted to know what ineffability looked like... this is IT". And then I experienced the ineffable sensation. It was as if everything impossible that could happen, actually happened in material reality to confirm to me the existence of a mystical aspect to reality. Like, THIS is reality. This is the universe at work, and it was showing me things that were impossible to describe. I became sensations of things that don't exist in our normal understanding. I became things that are "impossible" like verbs, songs, understandings, colors... I felt like I became it. But I can't recall what it is that I became.

I rented out a nice hotel and had two glasses of water on both desks to the right and left of my bed.

Really, hard to describe, but I felt like I and all of existence became "stringy" at this point. The state that I flew in from, "Florida", became just a dream. Distance was of (no distance), to say the least. It felt like everything was just a made up concept, I guess. "Washington DC" and the forest trails there was a place that just always existed. And like it's all in a computer, simulation, mind, or whatever the matrix is that makes Reality "come alive" or "operate".

My name and my brothers' name became miraculous symbols in my mind as well. Like, how did the universe get to a point where there was someone who happened to be called me, having an experience in some hotel room, in some place called "Washington DC", feeling just how I was feeling now in this moment of spacetime? Wow.

And that was like 30 minutes into ingesting shrooms.

I then fell to a carpeted floor. I got a suite, so the room was sectioned off into two places: a bedroom and a room with a couch, writing desk, and TV. I closed myself out from the outside room. And I was sitting on the carpet.

The carpet seemed to span infinitely in front of me, the patterns cascading into universal understanding, everything took forever in a good way, and I started to speak in short sentences, unravelling the secrets of the universe.

Something like this:

"I'm alive"...

"And this is peace..."

"Feeling good..."

"Here we are..."

"All together..."

"Love everybody..."

"Rich or poor..."

"The universe"

I got on the bed and then started listening to my music again. I fell in love with fairies and magic, and felt it was a good thing to be yourself, and not be ashamed of it. I started dancing and singing naked.

I then drank the water, and drinking water was a strange experience. It felt like I was drinking the entire world. Or something like that. I felt that the water came "alive". I went from one side of the bed to the next, and the movement also felt "alive". It was like everything was "alive" and reality was "alive" through my simulation of it. That reality, the universe, was "alive".

Now, this is the part, that's very difficult to explain. Because I always get into the question of why is it that Reality exists, and how did it happen to produce someone called "me" and "you"? What does it mean to be part of Reality? Why and how were we occasioned into existence? And was existence itself occasioned into existence? And these are questions the human mind really struggles to understand.

The best I can describe it was that I felt like I was like a simulated experience of Reality and Reality was having simulated experiences that are each one of us. And it was all at the host level "made up". Like we are all part of a computer program that is "alive" and simulating each one of us. And I now cracked the computer code and got to see my host source. And that was the basis of the trip. I was now the host source (Note: I'm speaking really metaphorically here, through analogies and examples. At no point of my trip do I recall thinking I and Reality was a "simulation" or "computer program". It's just that this is the best way to describe it for people in this-worldly plane and to myself, after the fact).

I'm very financially fortunate, and I could tell through the experience by the quality of the hotel that I was in. So, part of the trip was learning how I made up silly rules for myself in playing this "game of life", like "rich or poor..." it doesn't matter. It wasn't a moral lecture as much as it was hacking the silly biases that prevail our mind. But certainly being rich comes with certain privileges in this world. If everything is alive, we're all it. We are all reality.

I felt like I found the answer to Reality, and that I was a computer program. I've had very intense experiences on "just" weed before, but I felt like this was different in the sense that my ego wasn't there in the background commenting "wow, wow, wow"; rather, my ego was fully gone. I lost sense of who I was, who my family members' names were, who people were, what life was, my job seemed very silly (like why do we do it when we just exist as immaterial byproducts of an immaterial reality). It was all one gigantic strange dream. I did recall my brother M's name, and it took on angelic dimensions.

I also spoke a lot about love. And how much I loved my two cats.

I also felt like there was no difference between "seeing" with my eyes closed and "seeing" with my eyes open. They were both part of the same spectrum. It likewise didn't matter if I was "hearing" with my headphones on or "hearing" with them off. In particular, I felt like I was talking without talking, and even called my brother to describe the phenomenon to him. It's like knowing (without knowing). Remember, "Florida", my family members' names, everyone was just a made up dream. Distance didn't matter anymore, as all of it was part of the same immaterial reality. Senses were also therefore just a dream.

At every point, I felt like fear was something that could be conquered. In this sense, psilocybin was a really good treatment for OCD, because it really gets at the heart of it. Kind of like that old expression "the only thing you have to fear is fear itself" and "pain is only a sensation of the mind". Similarly, all of life is just a sensation of the mind, computer program, God, or whatever you want to call it. From a certain perspective, the host source is the only "real" thing in the end. Or maybe it's all a dream?

I felt like learning the messages uncovered in this experience was also a rite of passage that everyone learns at some point. And that there is no escaping learning it, because it is reality. Like, you will always give in before Reality does. Reality is always there.

So, this trip went on for 9 hours. I could go on and on, but I'll leave it at that.

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It was a good trip. Definitely very intense, there were some moments of temporary panic, but it was helped by the fact that I gained experience first through high doses of weed. I wouldn't want to do it more than 4 times a year, if that. It feels like it is a lot to handle, even if it's an incredibly magical sensation and an overall good message. It's just kind of dramatic, to say the least. It represents sort of the best possible experience a human being can have, that I know of, so it's best to treat it with respect and not abuse it.

I definitely think shrooms give you a nice understanding that there are other ways of viewing reality and experiencing reality. More accurately, it gives you another perspective as reality itself. :trippinbawelz:


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Re: Mystical experience on 4g of Penis Envy [Re: solarshroomster]
    #28456286 - 09/02/23 05:46 PM (4 months, 23 days ago)

A few other notes:

Also got the sense that the journey and the destination are one. Like, all of it exists as one "place". This is why "Florida" and "Washington DC" both felt dream-like, almost as if I could teleport between the two instantly. Everything is unified in spacetime, is how I would interpret it upon "return".

In that sense, similarly, I felt that the seasons blend together in time. Summer falls into fall, into winter, into spring. That it's all part of one imaginary circle. And this is why people get SAD. Around Halloween season, people see another perspective on reality. That all of it is alive, in the breathing, alive rhythm of existence / life that is "you" and "me".

Wow.


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Re: Mystical experience on 4g of Penis Envy [Re: solarshroomster]
    #28456560 - 09/02/23 10:08 PM (4 months, 23 days ago)

I won't go into details, but there's some evidence of (missing time) here, as things happened that I didn't recall...


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Re: Mystical experience on 4g of Penis Envy [Re: solarshroomster] * 1
    #28456572 - 09/02/23 10:46 PM (4 months, 23 days ago)

:cheers::snowman::yesnod::mushroom2::thumbup:


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Re: Mystical experience on 4g of Penis Envy [Re: The Blind Ass] * 1
    #28456676 - 09/03/23 06:02 AM (4 months, 23 days ago)

Wow , thank you for sharing -  fantastic read :smile: :wink: :allseeingeye::matrosjkacup::yinyangtrip:

Fantastic :awesomenod: :acidfire:


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Re: Mystical experience on 4g of Penis Envy [Re: connectedcosmos] * 1
    #28457885 - 09/04/23 01:25 AM (4 months, 22 days ago)

I’ll come up with some more later as I try to recall it, but…

I think, not sure, but one understanding from the trip was that Reality, the universe, evolves as us through our lives, and that it’s been going on eternally as like one strange dream. I felt like I was in some sort of twilight realm. That seemed pretty implicit in the trip. Like, I felt like a maniac, who along with others, dreams reality / the universe alive. Like I was an ongoing pattern of an infinitely repeating reality, and that it was all alive and intelligent. Felt like I received instructions in how to live and navigate in being alive.

Also felt like reality and existence was magical.


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Re: Mystical experience on 4g of Penis Envy [Re: solarshroomster] * 1
    #28460445 - 09/06/23 10:07 AM (4 months, 19 days ago)

Great read, thanks for sharing! Somehow parts of it reminded me of an experience I had with ayahuasca, where I was sitting in front of this gigantic angel/demon like figure against a backdrop of galaxies, stars, etc, who started to explain that reality/lives lived is similar to an RPG (my closest limited approximate), in which you keep gaining experience, and all your actions will influence the outcome/next cycle.

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Re: Mystical experience on 4g of Penis Envy [Re: solarshroomster] * 2
    #28467465 - 09/13/23 10:57 AM (4 months, 12 days ago)

Quote:

It's just kind of dramatic, to say the least. It represents sort of the best possible experience a human being can have, that I know of, so it's best to treat it with respect and not abuse it.




I recite this idea as a mantra every time I speak about entheogens.

That's a fantastic report. Thanks for sharing. It really reminds me some fascinating trips. Specially, that one in the euro gathering of 2005. While I was coming down, I said to one of the shroomerites it all felt like an "american movie". Seems kind of stupid but it represented the scripted like reality, the simulation as you refer it, I felt during the trip. I also had several of those "matrix" moments. I mean, literally ... I also felt a bit disturbed about the people we know and love becoming like illusions while ego fades away. Seems it has a purpose or rebuilding it back with some important lessons learned. Later on, I was blessed by understanding the real importance of their presence in my life and how positive it was.

I see this deeper trips as a process of self understanding and self knowledge. There's this positive aspect of this substances if you're careful enough and don't abuse them. It doesn't just show respect for the substance but for yourself as well. And, you know ? It's in my signature :wink:


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Re: Mystical experience on 4g of Penis Envy [Re: solarshroomster] * 1
    #28467487 - 09/13/23 11:11 AM (4 months, 12 days ago)

Quote:

solarshroomster said:
Like, I felt like a maniac, who along with others, dreams reality / the universe alive. Like I was an ongoing pattern of an infinitely repeating reality, and that it was all alive and intelligent. Felt like I received instructions in how to live and navigate in being alive.




One funny thing about that trip was that we all tripped together. I also remember chatting with another shroomerite who did trip as well, about sharing a common experience during the trip, and how I remember flying to another dimensions with some of them. Some of them were listening to the conversation and nodded "yes" and smiled, really happy. I guess it was Annom who named me "dude from the sky" (DftS). So many good memories :smile:


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Re: Mystical experience on 4g of Penis Envy [Re: MAIA] * 1
    #28468569 - 09/14/23 07:25 AM (4 months, 12 days ago)

I recalled last night that the big thing about the trip was that I felt like I was, in particular...

Talking without talking.

I felt like I was expressing information, basically, without having to speak.

I also felt it didn't matter whether I had my eyes open or closed, or whether the lights to the hotel room were on or off -- it was all effectively the same thing.

Lots of things along those lines.


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Re: Mystical experience on 4g of Penis Envy [Re: solarshroomster]
    #28470209 - 09/15/23 03:34 PM (4 months, 10 days ago)

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solarshroomster said:
Reality, the universe, evolves as us through our lives, and that it’s been going on eternally as like one strange dream. I felt like I was in some sort of twilight realm. That seemed pretty implicit in the trip. Like, I felt like a maniac, who along with others, dreams reality / the universe alive. Like I was an ongoing pattern of an infinitely repeating reality, and that it was all alive and intelligent.



:trippinbawelz:
Sounds like you had an amazing one, solar- nice writeup too:thumbup:

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Also felt like reality and existence was magical.



WHOAH,HEY.
Please- use a spoiler tag next time!:wink:


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Re: Mystical experience on 4g of Penis Envy [Re: Lithop] * 1
    #28475543 - 09/19/23 07:18 PM (4 months, 6 days ago)

My name and my brothers' name became miraculous symbols in my mind as well. Like, how did the universe get to a point where there was someone who happened to be called me, having an experience in some hotel room, in some place called "Washington DC", feeling just how I was feeling now in this moment of spacetime? Wow.


I feel like this message was the dominant undercurrent of the trip... just a basic feeling of wonder about existence.


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Re: Mystical experience on 4g of Penis Envy [Re: solarshroomster]
    #28485354 - 09/27/23 11:05 PM (3 months, 29 days ago)

This is a great post, thank you for sharing. I’m going to a nice suite at the beach tomorrow. Gunna do a spiritual cleansing & eat some penis envy & see what’s revealed. 🍄

I’ve eaten very high doses of PE, shit idunno, it was several years go but I think the most PE I’ve consumed at once is 6-8 grams. It was pure insanity, but I don’t think I’ve ever tripped for 9 hours on mushrooms. I’m amazed you remembered that much of your trip. I’m gunna bring a spiral notebook & pen so I can write things down. If I’m able to… lol

Awesome post! Thanks again. 👍


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