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Re: Women and Dressing Up [Re: durian_2008]
    #28454427 - 09/01/23 01:24 AM (4 months, 25 days ago)

I love how some people here are speaking on behalf of ALL women.


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Re: Women and Dressing Up [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #28454803 - 09/01/23 10:52 AM (4 months, 25 days ago)

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If any of you have stepped foot on a college campus recently you'll see that the more socialized and domesticated the young man, the more successful he tends to be with women.




In this case, what do you mean by "successful"?

And what defines a "socialized domestic young man"?


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Re: Women and Dressing Up [Re: LocN9ne]
    #28454898 - 09/01/23 12:46 PM (4 months, 25 days ago)

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I am someone who dresses up a lot. When I was younger I dressed up for my partner, but only because my partner would express that he liked it. I have not been with a man that is like that in over 25 years.
I 100% dress up because I like it. I like clothes, I like getting ready, I like the entire process and when it is
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There it is... I believe you, and you are right. At a certain age women stop dressing up strictly for male attention, and they begin dressing up in an attempt to hold on to their youth. At that point, her dressing up becomes for herself. But before that, nah.



I completely agree with this statement. For myself this is what is was.


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Re: Women and Dressing Up [Re: RJ Tubs 202] * 1
    #28455036 - 09/01/23 03:14 PM (4 months, 25 days ago)

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Anonymous #1 said:

If any of you have stepped foot on a college campus recently you'll see that the more socialized and domesticated the young man, the more successful he tends to be with women.




In this case, what do you mean by "successful"?

And what defines a "socialized domestic young man"?





I think he means getting laid/being able to get relationships.  And guys who are up with current fashion, clean cut, listen to popular music, you know.

This is absolutely inconsistent with my experience at least.  Perhaps just plain wrong across the board.  In my experience, girls want someone confident enough to be unique and operate outside the rules or established norms.  Not a "socialized domestic young man."  In my personal experience at least, playing the game and trying to be cool or whatever resulted in a lot, lot less success than being a bit of a wild man.


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Re: Women and Dressing Up [Re: shed light]
    #28455048 - 09/01/23 03:25 PM (4 months, 25 days ago)

:thumbup:

That mirrors my opinion shed light

(Women discover if their guy can change diapers, do the dishes, and shop for groceries long after they decide to date him as a boyfriend.  Maybe "can" is the wrong word and the term should be "is willing")


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Re: Women and Dressing Up [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #28455153 - 09/01/23 05:01 PM (4 months, 25 days ago)

So women, generalized, don't dress up to impress or out do other women?

It sounds like a smart ass question, but it seems to be the portion of this very interesting discussion that is being omitted. Not saying intentionally, but if we are getting to the truth then lets get to it. I'm in a mood today lol.



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Re: Women and Dressing Up [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #28455178 - 09/01/23 05:25 PM (4 months, 25 days ago)

I do not dress up to impress anyone. I wear it because I like it, I like how it looks or how it feels or it matches my mood.


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Re: Women and Dressing Up [Re: loladoreen]
    #28455188 - 09/01/23 05:35 PM (4 months, 25 days ago)

So it's purely expression then? 
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Re: Women and Dressing Up [Re: the_chosen_one]
    #28455420 - 09/01/23 08:45 PM (4 months, 24 days ago)

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So women, generalized, don't dress up to impress or out do other women?

It sounds like a smart ass question, but it seems to be the portion of this very interesting discussion that is being omitted. Not saying intentionally, but if we are getting to the truth then lets get to it. I'm in a mood today lol.






Ime it seems women like to do comparisons of things more than men. Maybe this plays into the dressing "up".. comparing or mildly competing with those "other women" that this one particular women sees value in... I don't see this as some deep thing or fallacy but more how the female monkey group of us interacts in its social environs/"hierarchy".


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Re: Women and Dressing Up [Re: ashfiken]
    #28455471 - 09/01/23 09:33 PM (4 months, 24 days ago)

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Besides women dressing up to show status and belonging, I felt that a couple of interesting things about cliques and pecking orders, is they will copy eachother's figures of speech and facial expressions.


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Kamala is an "empathic metamorph," which means that she is capable of sensing what a man wants in a woman and becomes that woman for him.  Such creatures are born only once every seven generations and this makes her a genetic rarity.  From birth, she has been prepared to bond with Alrik in hopes to stop the war.  Her premature emergence from stasis complicates matters because she begins to "bond" with the next man who will enter the room.




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Re: Women and Dressing Up [Re: durian_2008] * 1
    #28455544 - 09/01/23 10:58 PM (4 months, 24 days ago)

Pretty normal social techniques tbh. Hell I find myself often talking more akin to whichever subgroup I spend extended periods of time around.
Pretty natural tendency and I'm sure it'd kept me from seeming like a COMPLETE outcast on atleast a couple occasions over the years


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Re: Women and Dressing Up [Re: ashfiken] * 3
    #28455654 - 09/02/23 05:33 AM (4 months, 24 days ago)

Its complex, not a simple sound byte of an answer.  Women dress up because of social pressure to look good.  But also because they enjoy it; they take pride in looking good.  But also because it can be fun to explore a look.  But also because your dress can have social implications and lets the world know where you 'fit in.'  But also to show off to other women, as a competitive statement.  But also to attract men or at least garner male attention.  I'm sure there are more reasons.  Maybe some reasons only apply to some individuals.

I really like cars and have some cool cars I drive around.  Why?  Because its fun.  I enjoy the thrill of speed.  But also, its fun to be seen in them.  And its kind of a competitive thing with other males/showoff thing for females, if I have to be totally honest.  Its validating.  Its fun to have something to work on and take pride in.  Any girl I've dated will spend time getting ready for a night out.  I'll spend time getting the car ready.

We as social creatures really enjoy self-expression, I think any expression of that is inherently multifaceted.


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Re: Women and Dressing Up [Re: shed light] * 1
    #28455769 - 09/02/23 09:01 AM (4 months, 24 days ago)

I wear what I like, what's comfortable, and what I feel good in.

A lot of people might say I'm "dressing up" because I wear  lot of dresses / skirts but that's what's most comfortable for me, and doesn't feel like dressing up.

Today I'm choosing a sundress that looks great on me. I paid 3 dollars for it at a garage sale.

It has pockets and it's comfortable.

I'm wearing it because I like it, not to impress men or outdo other women.


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Re: Women and Dressing Up [Re: shed light] * 1
    #28455782 - 09/02/23 09:13 AM (4 months, 24 days ago)

I think many people lose weight and dress nicely to "feel attractive."

"feeling attractive" is very important to lots of people

(maybe it helps to combat self-loathing?)


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Re: Women and Dressing Up [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #28455788 - 09/02/23 09:18 AM (4 months, 24 days ago)

Anyone on their own agenda is possibly an A-type, setting trends. :thumbup:


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Re: Women and Dressing Up [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #28455808 - 09/02/23 09:34 AM (4 months, 24 days ago)

I think a lot of people loose weight to become healthy and more comfortable in their body with "feeling attractive" as a nice bonus.

I think a lot of people dress nicely so that they like what they see in the mirror Moreso than to be attractive for others.


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Re: Women and Dressing Up [Re: Patchouli_Savage]
    #28455815 - 09/02/23 09:41 AM (4 months, 24 days ago)

Without accusing you of being aggressive or even assertive, there are lots of voyeurs. Others notice your efforts or basic self discipline. They are competitive and do things to impress you back.


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    #28455831 - 09/02/23 09:58 AM (4 months, 24 days ago)

I feel like the above distinction is important to make because this assumption that we are dressing for others leads to shitty people using that assumption to justify shitty behavior.

I spent a lot of my younger years intentionally dressing down and intentionally looking as unattractive as possible because I don't like being cat called or followed around stores or stared at or assaulted, which are all things that have happened because these men have an idea that women exist for their enjoyment andbassuming we are "dressing attractively" to "look good for men" feeds that concept. 

I don't think that wanting to "feel attractive" for yourself is the same as wanting to "feel attractive" for others.

I think there are also higher standards for women when it comes to being physically attractive and put together that extend beyond being attractive sexually and into the professional realm.

Male doctors I work with wear cahart pants and flannel shirts, or black jeans and wrinkled checkered button downs and we call that professional, but if a female doctor wears that same outfit, she's going to be taken less seriously as a professional.

The same thing goes hair and makeup. I see male doctors and administrators with unkempt hairwho literally look like theyve just rolled out of bed, but women who take less time time to style their hair or who choose not to wear makeup are regarded as slovenly, unprofessional, and not put together.


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Re: Women and Dressing Up [Re: Patchouli_Savage]
    #28456087 - 09/02/23 02:11 PM (4 months, 24 days ago)

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I think there are also higher standards for women when it comes to being physically attractive and put together that extend beyond being attractive sexually and into the professional realm.

Male doctors I work with wear cahart pants and flannel shirts, or black jeans and wrinkled checkered button downs and we call that professional, but if a female doctor wears that same outfit, she's going to be taken less seriously as a professional.

The same thing goes hair and makeup. I see male doctors and administrators with unkempt hairwho literally look like theyve just rolled out of bed, but women who take less time time to style their hair or who choose not to wear makeup are regarded as slovenly, unprofessional, and not put together.




Yeah that's true.  There's definitely a double standard there.  I'd say the opposite is true with men though.  Men who are coiffed are seen by many (myself included, I admit that its unfair) as Nancy boys. 

I personally enjoy dressing up from time to time for a nice dinner or event.  I like the feeling of looking nice, as an alternative to my usual state of jeans and work boots and t shirts.  I don't do it for anyone else or to impress anyone, I just occasionally enjoy the feeling of a nice suit and finely-made shoes.  I don't think the typical woman's viewpoint is much different than mine, although I do think people of both genders act on different motives.  Vanity, trying to impress, competition, etc included.  Its just that women have some added social pressure to look good. 

You see a lot more gorgeously-dressed and done up women with scruffy guys like me than you do beautifully-dressed and groomed men with simply-dressed women.


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Re: Women and Dressing Up [Re: shed light]
    #28456199 - 09/02/23 03:48 PM (4 months, 24 days ago)

Ah I don't assume men who are dressed up are "Nancy Boys" (which I asse means feminine?) But I do assume they are white collar.

I would guess that men who like to dress well are drawn to women who habitually dress well also, and it seems like that might have an element of status as well?


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