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What's the best party for small business owners?
#28454397 - 09/01/23 12:22 AM (4 months, 24 days ago) |
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I am not "really" political, but I am curious which party is the best for small business owners?
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#28454403 - 09/01/23 12:30 AM (4 months, 24 days ago) |
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Re: What's the best party for small business owners? [Re: Lucis]
#28454674 - 09/01/23 08:44 AM (4 months, 24 days ago) |
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I think there is a variety of factors, including what type of industry the small business is in.
BTW, the US government thinks having over a thousand employees, and making 30 to 40 million (revenue)as a small business.
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Re: What's the best party for small business owners? [Re: Lucis] 1
#28454750 - 09/01/23 10:06 AM (4 months, 24 days ago) |
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It's funny because the Dems always marketed themselves as the party for workers and the GOP for small business. They both lied.
At one time the GOP was probably better for small business, if the business was thriving.
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I don’t think it matters for small business. My machine shop at one point made like $50k a year. Paying an accountant to screw the system out of tax dollars was way more important than who I voted for.
That said, a lot of business owners vote in ways that aren’t doing themselves any good. My last boss was a great example. He couldn’t understand why he as a business owner with multimillionaire status would want to to pay taxes for single payer healthcare. I had to explain to him that it’s simple, you no longer would spend $100k a year on healthcare as a benefit for your management employees. All he saw though was that he’d potentially have slightly higher taxes for himself. He never could turn down a good write off, meanwhile that $100k would have been in his pocket instead. That’s modern America in a nutshell though.
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Re: What's the best party for small business owners? [Re: christopera]
#28455720 - 09/02/23 07:59 AM (4 months, 23 days ago) |
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christopera said: I don’t think it matters for small business. My machine shop at one point made like $50k a year. Paying an accountant to screw the system out of tax dollars was way more important than who I voted for.
That said, a lot of business owners vote in ways that aren’t doing themselves any good. My last boss was a great example. He couldn’t understand why he as a business owner with multimillionaire status would want to to pay taxes for single payer healthcare. I had to explain to him that it’s simple, you no longer would spend $100k a year on healthcare as a benefit for your management employees. All he saw though was that he’d potentially have slightly higher taxes for himself. He never could turn down a good write off, meanwhile that $100k would have been in his pocket instead. That’s modern America in a nutshell though.
that is also my experience, if you own a fortune 500 you probably do better with republicans. if you dont own one. and if your name isnt known to people in distant lands, then you are probably not better off with either party per say. also the democrats are better for a certaiin set of big buisness and the republicans for others, theres no such thing as government that is good for small business.
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Re: What's the best party for small business owners? [Re: christopera]
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I would say it mostly boils down to who is gonna increase wages and worker protections.
The GOP will continue to be the best party for the capitalist class.
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Re: What's the best party for small business owners? [Re: The Ecstatic]
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Re: What's the best party for small business owners? [Re: CapSlinger]
#28455775 - 09/02/23 09:08 AM (4 months, 23 days ago) |
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As a small business owner, if you have a physical location, the best party is the local politicians. Donate to them, help them out, give them discounts, and then reap those rewards. My old neighbor was on the board of health in my town, guy had inordinate amount of power over local restaurants and shops that sold food.
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Re: What's the best party for small business owners? [Re: The Ecstatic]
#28456633 - 09/03/23 03:41 AM (4 months, 22 days ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: I would say it mostly boils down to who is gonna increase wages and worker protections.
The GOP will continue to be the best party for the capitalist class.
Everything you said was 100% true for most people, but not for small business, at least in their minds. They are operating under the assumption that they will be one of the few that makes it big. They don't want inreased wages and worker protections.
Most small business are pawns like the rest of us. For the small business that survives but doesn't prosper beyond middle class status, I think their level of prosperity determines which party better serves their interests. But they vote Republican, for the same reason people play the lottery.
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Re: What's the best party for small business owners? [Re: Brian Jones]
#28456805 - 09/03/23 08:40 AM (4 months, 22 days ago) |
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Small business owners aren’t going to be made rich by either party, but if you’re a SBO with thin margins, and the democrats raise the minimum wage, you’re fucked.
I think Ice9 is right about local party support, but the business model is built on exploitation. The more you can exploit the more successful you are. Typically, the GOP allows for more exploitation.
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Re: What's the best party for small business owners? [Re: The Ecstatic]
#28456834 - 09/03/23 08:59 AM (4 months, 22 days ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: Small business owners aren’t going to be made rich by either party, but if you’re a SBO with thin margins, and the democrats raise the minimum wage, you’re fucked.
I think Ice9 is right about local party support, but the business model is built on exploitation. The more you can exploit the more successful you are. Typically, the GOP allows for more exploitation.
and if you are a SBO and the republicans remove regulations and restrictions from large corporations they will undercut you and put you out of business create juggernaught giant monopolies and put you to work on their assembly line with starvation wages.
enjoy peeing in a bottle? vote republican.
that said the democrats are just as bad but there will be plenty of people to make those arguements.
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Re: What's the best party for small business owners? [Re: rxb]
#28456865 - 09/03/23 09:12 AM (4 months, 22 days ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: Small business owners aren’t going to be made rich by either party, but if you’re a SBO with thin margins, and the democrats raise the minimum wage, you’re fucked.
I think Ice9 is right about local party support, but the business model is built on exploitation. The more you can exploit the more successful you are. Typically, the GOP allows for more exploitation.
and if you are a SBO and the republicans remove regulations and restrictions from large corporations they will undercut you and put you out of business create juggernaught giant monopolies and put you to work on their assembly line with starvation wages.
enjoy peeing in a bottle? vote republican.
that said the democrats are just as bad but there will be plenty of people to make those arguements.
Sure but those “undercut the small business” policies are built into the model I mentioned. Those with the most wealth have the most power, and the biggest market share. This is the result of globalization and you can’t put that toothpaste back in the tube now.
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Re: What's the best party for small business owners? [Re: The Ecstatic]
#28456917 - 09/03/23 09:37 AM (4 months, 22 days ago) |
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Biden has put the tooth paste back in the bottle as well as anyone else can. Manufacturing has up ticked just a bit. I never used them but the democrats were the ones that had incentives and loans for small or minority businesses and so like all things, which is better depends on what you are doing.
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Re: What's the best party for small business owners? [Re: The Ecstatic]
#28457250 - 09/03/23 02:48 PM (4 months, 22 days ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: Small business owners aren’t going to be made rich by either party, but if you’re a SBO with thin margins, and the democrats raise the minimum wage, you’re fucked.
I think Ice9 is right about local party support, but the business model is built on exploitation. The more you can exploit the more successful you are. Typically, the GOP allows for more exploitation.
and if you are a SBO and the republicans remove regulations and restrictions from large corporations they will undercut you and put you out of business create juggernaught giant monopolies and put you to work on their assembly line with starvation wages.
enjoy peeing in a bottle? vote republican.
that said the democrats are just as bad but there will be plenty of people to make those arguements.
Sure but those “undercut the small business” policies are built into the model I mentioned. Those with the most wealth have the most power, and the biggest market share. This is the result of globalization and you can’t put that toothpaste back in the tube now.
this is perhaps the dumbest overall argument ever made on this forum and thats including some shit choppy has said. and all my spelling mistakes.
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Re: What's the best party for small business owners? [Re: rxb]
#28457343 - 09/03/23 03:56 PM (4 months, 22 days ago) |
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You: the republicans are way worse…..that said the Dems do the same thing.
Me: yeah it’s built in, you can’t change it.
You: wow that’s dumb
Do you often startle yourself when you walk past mirrors?
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Re: What's the best party for small business owners? [Re: The Ecstatic]
#28457348 - 09/03/23 04:00 PM (4 months, 22 days ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: You: the republicans are way worse…..that said the Dems do the same thing.
Me: yeah it’s built in, you can’t change it.
You: wow that’s dumb
Do you often startle yourself when you walk past mirrors?
you: the republicans are better because they remove regulations
me: if you remove the regulations then the bigest companies run smaller companies out of business. but democrats are also bad for small business in other ways... but no the republicans arent better for small business.
you: the problem of global juggernaut monopolies is too big and you cant fix it, so you may as well go with the lack of regulation that will kil lyour small business because you cant really stop it.
me : thats a dumb as fuck arguement.
you: you are saying the same thing i am saying tho.
me : nope.
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Re: What's the best party for small business owners? [Re: rxb]
#28457358 - 09/03/23 04:05 PM (4 months, 22 days ago) |
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I never said you can’t fix it, only that neither party wants to.
Which regulation did Republicans remove that negatively impacts small businesses?
Could you be more specific?
Either way, the majority of undercutting small business is done via free trade agreements that both parties support.
But, if you took every blue state/city and replaced it with GOP majorities, no more $15 min wage, no more improved worker protections, etc, there’d be lower taxes which in turn reduce services and protections..
I think it’s pretty obvious the GOP is preferable for small business owners.
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Re: What's the best party for small business owners? [Re: The Ecstatic]
#28457369 - 09/03/23 04:13 PM (4 months, 22 days ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: I never said you can’t fix it, only that neither party wants to.
Which regulation did Republicans remove that negatively impacts small businesses?
Could you be more specific?
not really saying they have. however, what they do is remove regulations on larger companies. for example they have removed some regulations on csx reciently which would have negative effected any contractors that csx may have had to do those safety inspections or corrections.
alot of businesses contract with sbuisnesses to help oversee regulations.
you remove that regulation they are out of a job. if you make it so that a large company needs less workers or does the same thing for less then they can afford to absorb more sectors in the market and remove more competition.
thats just basic economics.
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Re: What's the best party for small business owners? [Re: rxb]
#28457374 - 09/03/23 04:16 PM (4 months, 22 days ago) |
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Ok that’s a fair point, I’m just saying the wages are probably more important given both parties are deregulating.
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Re: What's the best party for small business owners? [Re: The Ecstatic]
#28457431 - 09/03/23 04:54 PM (4 months, 22 days ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: Ok that’s a fair point, I’m just saying the wages are probably more important given both parties are deregulating.
i dont think (as a small business owner) that wages effect my bottom line as much as they do for mcdonalds or target.
and if wages could be lower mcdonalds and target could afford to move into more sectors perhaps (although not likely) effecting my small business.
most of whats left of small businesses are specialty companies that minimum wage doesnt effect. because minimum wage is so far below a living wage that only high turnover companies can afford to pay that low of a wage.
if mcdonalds had to pay a livable wage you'd see more corner chicken places with cooler names than kfc and zaxbys... and youd see higher quality.
again there is no party which is good for small business.
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Re: What's the best party for small business owners? [Re: rxb]
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It depends where you operate your small business. Imagine if instead of paying the $15 min wage in New York, you could pay $7.25. Halving your labor costs is pretty significant for a small business owner. If you’re in a red state, chances are minimum wage isn’t much above the federal minimum, if at all.
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Re: What's the best party for small business owners? [Re: The Ecstatic]
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I'm looking to expand my small business right now and minimum wage really isn't on my radar because I need either a person who is already skilled That I can work an equitable split with as a contractor or I need to train someone in a niche skill. In either case, I'll need to compensate them such that it isn't worth it for them to break away and compete with me.
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Re: What's the best party for small business owners? [Re: ballsalsa]
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That's why you have to kill them if they quit. That's my standard practice.
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Re: What's the best party for small business owners? [Re: Enlil]
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I'll have to check my state laws but given the state...
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Just have a consent clause in the employment contract. I'm sure that'll cover it.
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Re: What's the best party for small business owners? [Re: Enlil]
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Wonder what else I can make em consent to...
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Re: What's the best party for small business owners? [Re: ballsalsa]
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I think if you place one of those banned “woke” books in their hand after, you can call the cops and claim Castle Doctrine.
A guy got away with shooting another driver on the road here recently because the guy threw a water bottle at his truck.
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Re: What's the best party for small business owners? [Re: The Ecstatic]
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NGL, I pay the protection money to get the sticker.
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You should check out this documentary series on HBO called The Telemarketers.
It dives into the schemes to get people to donate under the guise of “helping cops and their families” but it instead gets funneled to these corporate douchebags and the FOP.
They all but admit it’s just an extortion racket.
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I get those calls at least half a dozen times a year. They brought up the fallen and the kids....and one guy even tried to make me feel guilty in the 9 seconds he had.
Another said "I am with the Faterinal Order of Police"...I asked him "with, or part of ?" Dialtone. If they are like other charities, they probably pocket 80% of everything. I will have to check that put on MAX, (why it not HBO anymore? dumbshit)
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I just laugh and say, "the only good cop is a dead cop"
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The best political party for small business owners can vary depending on your specific priorities and beliefs. It's essential to research each party's policies and their stance on issues that matter most to you as a business owner. Look for policies that support entrepreneurship, reduce red tape, and promote economic growth. When it comes to securing your business in the digital age, regardless of your political affiliation, it's crucial to prioritize cybersecurity. Implementing shared 2FA (Two-Factor Authentication) is a practical step to safeguard your business's online assets and customer data. So, while considering your political choices, don't forget to secure your business with strong online security practices.
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Re: What's the best party for small business owners? [Re: Brian Jones]
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Brian Jones said: It's funny because the Dems always marketed themselves as the party for workers and the GOP for small business. They both lied.
At one time the GOP was probably better for small business, if the business was thriving.
Yeah I was going to say neither party is really awesome for business owners or otherwise.
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Re: What's the best party for small business owners? [Re: Brian Jones]
#28467200 - 09/13/23 06:03 AM (4 months, 12 days ago) |
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Brian Jones said: They are operating under the assumption that they will be one of the few that makes it big.
THIS is the fucking problem
"everyone" wants to get rich, and you're a loser if you don't strive to make every dollar possible.
The goal is no longer to have a business profitable enough to take care of one's immediate needs, plan for the future/retirement, take care of the employees (if any) and their future needs, and live comfortably.
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Re: What's the best party for small business owners? [Re: Tulipslave]
#28467219 - 09/13/23 06:44 AM (4 months, 12 days ago) |
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I saw my old man chase money, in the end he got it. Retired and after 6 months dropped dead.
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Re: What's the best party for small business owners? [Re: SirTripAlot] 2
#28467382 - 09/13/23 09:48 AM (4 months, 12 days ago) |
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I'd just like to pay off my house and at least have something to give my child (future) asset wise after I die. I never wanted to be rich. I don't actually see a lot of difference between being miserable on a yacht or being miserable in a Volkswagen. So personally I am satisfied with owning my home, owning my car, providing for my son, eating good meals fairly often.
The problem, a lot of people can't do those basic things. Not because they don't want it, but because in many ways the system works against them. It is expensive to be poor. You get financially penalized for not being able to afford things. Some people recognize this. I don't think either party is the best at seeing that, but clearly the Republican party loves to keep people poor, except for the rich. If they didn't their states wouldn't be the poorest. The pattern is very clear.
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Re: What's the best party for small business owners? [Re: SirTripAlot]
#28467843 - 09/13/23 05:05 PM (4 months, 12 days ago) |
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SirTripAlot said: I saw my old man chase money, in the end he got it. Retired and after 6 months dropped dead.
Sorry to hear that. What a waste of time and energy.
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Re: What's the best party for small business owners? [Re: christopera]
#28467845 - 09/13/23 05:06 PM (4 months, 12 days ago) |
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christopera said: I'd just like to pay off my house and at least have something to give my child (future) asset wise after I die. I never wanted to be rich. I don't actually see a lot of difference between being miserable on a yacht or being miserable in a Volkswagen. So personally I am satisfied with owning my home, owning my car, providing for my son, eating good meals fairly often.
The problem, a lot of people can't do those basic things. Not because they don't want it, but because in many ways the system works against them. It is expensive to be poor. You get financially penalized for not being able to afford things. Some people recognize this. I don't think either party is the best at seeing that, but clearly the Republican party loves to keep people poor, except for the rich. If they didn't their states wouldn't be the poorest. The pattern is very clear.
Name me a currently poor big-time politician in the USA, and not poor from their own illegal/criminal self-doings
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Re: What's the best party for small business owners? [Re: Tulipslave]
#28467931 - 09/13/23 06:28 PM (4 months, 12 days ago) |
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Big time politicians get paid. Why would they be poor? That's like asking for a poor big time lawyer.
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Re: What's the best party for small business owners? [Re: Enlil]
#28467969 - 09/13/23 06:48 PM (4 months, 12 days ago) |
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Enlil said: Big time politicians get paid. Why would they be poor? That's like asking for a poor big time lawyer.
You're good at explaining my point in different words.
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Re: What's the best party for small business owners? [Re: Tulipslave]
#28467971 - 09/13/23 06:50 PM (4 months, 12 days ago) |
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You think politicians shouldn't get paid?
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Re: What's the best party for small business owners? [Re: Enlil]
#28468027 - 09/13/23 07:36 PM (4 months, 12 days ago) |
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Enlil said: You think politicians shouldn't get paid?
I didn't say that, nor do I think that.
Generally, their paychecks for being a politician isn't what gets them rich.
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Re: What's the best party for small business owners? [Re: Tulipslave]
#28468029 - 09/13/23 07:37 PM (4 months, 12 days ago) |
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So then how can you expect anyone to find a big time politician who is poor? What point are you even trying to make?
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Re: What's the best party for small business owners? [Re: Enlil]
#28468055 - 09/13/23 07:51 PM (4 months, 12 days ago) |
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Enlil said: So then how can you expect anyone to find a big time politician who is poor? What point are you even trying to make?
My point is that politicians have little to no concept of what it's like to be poor or even low economic class. Those that came from poverty seem to quickly forget it when they gain power and prestige and all the gifts and opportunities afforded then. They are completely out of touch with the people they represent. They don't live like those of us who have-not.
Edit: and that's glossing over bribes and underhanded/backroom dealings and questionable investments and lobbying.
Edited by Tulipslave (09/13/23 07:52 PM)
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Re: What's the best party for small business owners? [Re: Tulipslave]
#28468066 - 09/13/23 07:55 PM (4 months, 12 days ago) |
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So, you think that they only represent the poor? Or they represent poor and others but are only out of touch with the poor? Or they are out of touch with everyone they represent?
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Re: What's the best party for small business owners? [Re: Enlil] 1
#28468173 - 09/13/23 09:14 PM (4 months, 12 days ago) |
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the job of a representative is to represent the constituents, that SHOULD be by the number of constituents.
but typically speaking they are better representatives of their own interests and ipsofactso their highest doners.
representing your best doners doesnt help you be a better representative for your average citizen.
the best interests of the average joe is to be able to live an increasingly better life without dipping too far into the work/play/home ratios.
but mostly what gets represented is the needs of big business to be able to use national resources to enrich themselves at the expense and misfortune of the tax payer.
and the very people who should be standing in the way of that are frequently facilitating it.
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