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That just sounds like toxic masculinity.
None of that is relevant to my own interpretation.
That's clearly cold reading.
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🤷♂️ Read the description in the original post. I hope it helped. feel free to share your Interpretation. But you gave me a limited description
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sudly
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I gave you the entire dream as I remembered it.
I have my own interpretation, but you're the one claiming to be able to interpret the dream, and that what you're trying to do isn't akin to cold reading.
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I stand by it.
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I don't experience toxic masculinity. I'm fine with a female partner earning more than me, I don't feel a need to out perform other men, and I'm more than happy to ask for assistance from anyone.
I really feel like there's some form of projection in your interpretation.
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You are a man. That is why I said you are a man.
My mistake. I should’ve just said you are a grown person.
Instead, you want to bend my use of the word man into toxic masculinity, and dependance upon a woman who makes more money than you.
Your over extrapolation has frustrated me and you have been ignored.
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Quote:
GenesisCorrupted said:
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sudly said: I went to hospital and my mum tried to pick me up to carry me to a room but I said my kidney or lower back hurt, so I walked there myself. I went to hospital because I was talking to a doctor and wasn't able to cognitively perform at a level that is considered independent.
So what is your interpretation?
Your mom wants to help you, but even though you could use the help. Your in a hospital. You are a man and don’t want to need your moms help. You make up an excuse. So you walk on your own. Even though you needed help and don’t know what to do. You can’t “perfom”
This is just my interpretation.
You posted my response from another thread here, and you said the, 'you're a man and don't need your mum's help' line.
In no way is my masculinity reflected or reliant on my mum, I'm happy to ask her for help.
If anything the dream may be interpreted that she wanted to help but didn't know how. And I didn't know what was medically wrong with me.
The 'Not being able to perform' line is also representative of some kind of line into toxic masculinity imo.
Because again, not being able perform is generally associated with intimacy and seen by some as a reflection of masculinity. Maybe I should see what you were saying about your dad.
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Try to read the title of the thread you’re posting in. Before you respond to some thing someone said in a different one.
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For what it's worth, you're describing exactly what cold reading is.
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I just want you to realize the difference being that I have years of psychology experience, and education. People that offer cold readings don’t….
I’m not just making stuff up. This is actually real psychologically backed dream interpretations.
That feels incredibly dismissive to say it’s the same.
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And yet as I see it, all you're still offering is cold reading.
What discipline is there in the psychology of dreams outside of esoteric context?
It sounds vain to me to suggest you can interpret the dreams of other people, dismissive even of individual interpretation. Suggesting there is a single interpretation of any dream.
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People come to ask my opinion. You can have a different one.
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Mine is that you are clearly cold reading, and that in my specific case you have projected some form of concern over masculinity onto your interpretation of the dream I had.
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If you go and reread the interpretation. I initially tried to make it more personal to you. Because you are personally a man. Gender has nothing to do with the interpretation I did. I edited it to clear up any strange miss reads that could happen.
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I can reread it a dozen times and still interpret your interpretation as highlighting the idea that I'm a man and don't need my mum, and that I needed some sort of excuse to perform?
None of which is relevant in anyway to my life experiences or personal interpretation of what could possibly be interpreted by the most recent dream I had.
One possible interpretation I have, that does not represent a be all end all singular interpretation, as I don't believe dreams have inherent meanings, is that I've had a hospital experience, and my mum was by my side the whole time.
It was just a reminder that she cares.
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I just thought that she tried to pick you up. Because she was your parent. Not because you are a man. That seems like a weird take. I felt like it was probably a financial burden because of medical expenses. Maybe you think she can help you with that. But you’re ashamed to ask.
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I have no idea why she tried to pick me up, or why I told her my kidney area hurt when she did, it's a dream, I don't think there is a single inherent interpretation to be had.
Its fair enough to try and reflect on a dream and how it might represent personal life experiences though.
There is no financial burden, I live in Australia and have Medicare. In my opinion you worded it as though my personal sense of masculinity had any role to play in it, but others don't effect my own sense of masculinity, and my sense of masculinity isn't something that changes.
I already have a good sense of self respect. I'll ask for help if I feel it's necessary.
Maybe you want to help with interpretive assumptions, but cold reading is what mediums do and I find it a reprehensible practice that predates on the vulnerable.
At least you aren't asking money for this service, and you aren't talking about communicating with people's past relatives, but in my view it's starting down the same path.
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Like I said. If I have a lot more details. You can have a way better interpretation. But I do still stand by it. I don’t think you’re being a man had anything to do with it. I’m sorry you miss read that.
This is purely for self reflection & growth. Did you read the original post btw?
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Jesus sudly. Just let the man interpret your dreams. You can agree with it, or not. Consider it a second opinion.
Dream interpretation is something which is highly subjective by default. Everyone interprets them differently. That doesn't mean there are negative intentions. Accusing him of "cold reading" is just bizarre. What, is he supposed to be a telepath and know everything about you or else it's not valid? You're not making sense.
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I hope none of the books you've read are related to Rosina Thompson or George Valiantine.
Your interpretation was off, you can change your stance but don't equivocate your own words.
It's my opinion that in practice you're attempting to follow the footsteps of a medium.
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