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Indigenous people in Colorado say they should be leading plant-based psychedelics movement * 1
    #28450415 - 08/28/23 07:46 PM (8 months, 16 days ago)

Indigenous people in Colorado say they should be leading plant-based psychedelics movement
August 28, 2023 - Denver Post

For 10 years, Kuthoomi Castro trained under Indigenous elders in Ecuador before he began the practice known within Native communities as serving medicine.

The journey that led him to lead traditional ceremonies and give ayahuasca — a plant-based psychedelic brew — to others was long but sacred.

“This is my tradition and my path,” Castro said.

That’s why the Boulder resident and clinical counselor doesn’t take the use or distribution of psychedelics lightly. It’s what drove him and other Indigenous people — as part of a group called the Native Coalition of Colorado — to protest at the Psychedelic Science 2023 conference this summer in Denver.

The members argue that Natives who have been using plant-based psychedelics for generations should not only be more involved in the discussions but leading them. They worry that the measure decriminalizing psychedelics will allow the wealthy and the powerful to profit as psychedelics are misused and abused. And they are concerned that commercialization could make it harder for Native communities to find the plants they use in their practices.

The group is on a mission to raise awareness about these issues even as an advisory board works with the state to establish rules for psychedelic sales and licensing facilities such as healing centers.

“The plant medicine is a renaissance within the Western system, and it has been happening for decades through the Indigenous people,” Castro told conference attendees.

Indigenous communities opened up their medicines to help people heal, not to have the medicines taken and their cultures erased, he said.

“Please stop. Think. Think critically,” Castro said.

The Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies, which hosted the large conference, told The Denver Post that it did not have anyone available to comment.

In 2022, Colorado voters passed Proposition 122, the citizen-led Natural Medicine Health Act. It decriminalized, for people 21 and older, using, growing and sharing five natural psychedelic substances, including two in psychedelic mushrooms — psilocybin and psilocin — and three plant-based psychedelic substances — dimethyltryptamine, ibogaine and mescaline. It tasks the state with regulating natural medicine use in licensed facilities and allows for expansion of the types of substances that can be offered.

This year state lawmakers passed Senate Bill 23-290, clarifying the regulatory framework for a natural medicine program, but they noted that the use of these medicines for health conditions should be balanced with potential cultural harms to tribes and Indigenous people.

The Natural Medicine Advisory Board, made up of governor-appointed volunteers, is working with state agencies on rules and implementation. By Dec. 31, 2024, Colorado has to start taking applications for natural medicine facilitators.

Department of Regulatory Agencies spokesperson Katie O’Donnell said DORA has worked to ensure it has tribal and Indigenous representation – two of the 15 board members are Indigenous and one practices psychedelic medicine within Native tradition. An Indigenous subcommittee and tribal working group were also formed, and the state is planning a public campaign to hear from communities across the state.

O’Donnell noted the new rules won’t apply to tribal nations, which are sovereign, but the tribes will be included since decisions outside their borders can affect them.

For Castro, that doesn’t go far enough. It keeps those already in power in control while decentralizing Indigenous voices.

He opposed Prop 122 even though it decriminalizes plant medicines traditionally used by Native people. Those who would be most affected were not making the decisions. And the law opens up the door for corporations to create synthetics and exploit the plants, Castro said.

“Right now because it has been legalized, or it’s moving into that, it’s pretty much open for people to do as they wish, as long as the system is saying it’s OK,” he said.

But Kevin Matthews, who works in consulting and education on psychedelics and was a proponent for the psychedelics law, said organizers tried to be inclusive and respectful of Indigenous communities. Backers prioritized decriminalization so Native communities could keep using natural medicines, and they excluded peyote (which federal law protects using in Native ceremonies) from the measure.

Matthews said he pursued the measure because psilocybin mushrooms changed his life and he viewed it as a way to address mental and behavioral health crises.

“Whenever you are embarking on a major effort to dismantle decades-old harmful policies, there will inevitably be missteps and we recognize we could have done more,” he wrote in an email. “We are committed to continuing to work with Indigenous and Native communities to embrace the lessons learned and implement a model that honors the benefit that these communities have been carrying.”

That effort should have included leadership from medicine carriers and communities that have been stewarding native medicines like ayahuasca, said Gabriela Galindo, a Boulder woman with Indigenous roots and a background in public health and alternative medicines.

“Indigenous communities need to be the voices,” she said. “Our communities are the experts.”

But now people have discovered the benefits of the medicines — the same ones Native people were often punished for using — and they want to profit from them. They’re trying to bypass hundreds of years of history, she said.

Galindo understands wanting them for healing, but she said they’re being taken at the cost of Indigenous communities instead of addressing the root causes of problems in Western society.

Indigenous communities, however, are not a monolith.

Veronica Lightning Horse Perez, a Littleton-based therapist of Indigenous heritage who uses psychedelics in her practice and incorporates Indigenous spiritual traditions, became a vocal proponent of Prop 122 because she said she sees so much suffering that could be alleviated with the medicines.

She also understands the frustrations.

“When we go to a conference and we see millions of dollars coming in and out the door, when we see a tent that says ‘poop Gods’ on it, and we see mushrooms with googly-eyed cartoon characters on it, it’s painful,” she said.

So what’s the solution? Castro stresses that he’s not calling for non-Natives to stop using plant-based psychedelics, nor is he asking they not distribute it.

He wants recognition for those who brought the medicine and respect for their practices. That means white people who haven’t been trained or haven’t done the work to understand the relationship with nature shouldn’t be offering it or leading traditional ceremonies.

“It’s not just understanding the logistical piece of it. It’s not just understanding how to cook it or prepare it or how to hold space for people or how many people can be there,” Castro said. “Our medicines for us are our elders.”

He’s also calling for a separation between plant-based psychedelics and pharmaceutical psychedelics created in a lab such as MDMA — commonly known as ecstasy and sometimes used in therapy.

Indigenous people who spoke to The Post said they also want to see reciprocity. They want benefits for Indigenous people who provided the plant-based medicines, instead of just making them exploited workers.

“Rather than taking or centering themselves as the movement give it back so that they’re centering Indigenous people and then elevating us,” Castro said.

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Re: Indigenous people in Colorado say they should be leading plant-based psychedelics movement [Re: veggie] * 4
    #28450501 - 08/28/23 08:39 PM (8 months, 16 days ago)

Quit whining, if you want to profit off psychedelic decriminalization do it. Dry those tears and elevate yourself. Nobody has to center anything around anyone.

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Re: Indigenous people in Colorado say they should be leading plant-based psychedelics movement [Re: veggie]
    #28450899 - 08/29/23 08:45 AM (8 months, 16 days ago)

What's the logical conclusion here? I'm all for creating a distinct separation between plant medicine and clinical trials with synthetic isolated compounds.

We can set up all the equity in the world to indigenous tribes but that won't establish tangible regulation of how these psychedelics are treated by the public at large.


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Re: Indigenous people in Colorado say they should be leading plant-based psychedelics movement [Re: Yukon Cornelius]
    #28450907 - 08/29/23 08:55 AM (8 months, 16 days ago)

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and they excluded peyote (which federal law protects using in Native ceremonies) from the measure.




Quanah Parker was half white and, as best I can tell, his ceremony was Christianized.

Ibogaine is not even native to this continent.



Is there a happy medium between stuffing them for taxidermy and making them the president of everything?

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Re: Indigenous people in Colorado say they should be leading plant-based psychedelics movement [Re: durian_2008] * 1
    #28450949 - 08/29/23 09:55 AM (8 months, 16 days ago)

There’s no wrong way to eat a Reese’s



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Re: Indigenous people in Colorado say they should be leading plant-based psychedelics movement [Re: WhoManBeing]
    #28450957 - 08/29/23 10:07 AM (8 months, 16 days ago)

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Originally, Kellogg was an occupational name for a pork butcher, derived from the Medieval English kellen, meaning “to kill” or “to slaughter,” and hog, meaning hog or pig.



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George Washington Carver is often credited with inventing peanut butter, but he did not invent it. John Harvey Kellogg was granted a patent in 1898 to make peanut butter using boiled peanuts. Kellogg included peanut butter in his dietary plans...



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WhoManBeing said:
There’s no wrong way to eat a Reese’s





That's for English people to determine, now. :awesomenod:

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Re: Indigenous people in Colorado say they should be leading plant-based psychedelics movement [Re: durian_2008] * 4
    #28452137 - 08/30/23 08:30 AM (8 months, 15 days ago)

I’m not sure this article captures all the nuance in this discussion. Big difference between an endangered species like peyote versus cubensis mushrooms as far as dangers of harvesting. Also, while I love, respect, and learn from indigenous cultures, I don’t think anyone can claim hegemony over how psilocybin is used or should be used, considering how widespread it’s use has been throughout humanity.

I’m getting kind of tired of everyone criticizing everyone else about everything in this world. Can we find some common ground, perhaps?


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Re: Indigenous people in Colorado say they should be leading plant-based psychedelics movement [Re: veggie] * 1
    #28454355 - 08/31/23 10:45 PM (8 months, 13 days ago)

Just legalize mushrooms. Simple.

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Re: Indigenous people in Colorado say they should be leading plant-based psychedelics movement [Re: superreggie]
    #28454930 - 09/01/23 01:14 PM (8 months, 12 days ago)

I dunno it just seems like instead of bitching about it they should take more action and lead if they want to lead the movement.

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