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I want to be Gay
    #28449576 - 08/28/23 09:13 AM (4 months, 29 days ago)

I am verry depressed because I don't find any men attractive at all. I find almost any skinny woman attractive but have never meet a woman I get along with in my entire life. I like a lot of guys they seem respectful to me women treat me like I am a bug on the bottom of their shoes. They have no respect for anyone but women. I would love to find a woman that treated me like an equal not lesser than them. I get along with guys so much better they are way less sensitive, women are like delicate flowers and super high maintenance the littlest things set them off. I would love to be gay I don't like women for anything but their physical features.

I just never meet a woman with a good personality always stuck-up women with control problems and a God complex. I was thinking about trying to date a Gay man eventually but need blind folds so I dont have to look at them and it will help them not see me cry. :sadyes:


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Re: I want to be Gay [Re: CaptainTrips420]
    #28449649 - 08/28/23 09:47 AM (4 months, 29 days ago)

Maybe you need to date a crossdresser.


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Re: I want to be Gay [Re: CaptainTrips420] * 3
    #28449765 - 08/28/23 11:09 AM (4 months, 29 days ago)

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I find almost any skinny woman attractive but have never meet a woman I get along with in my entire life.



Yeah, well, if attractiveness in a woman boils down to 'being skinny', I can see how women don't appear to be getting along with you very well. There's more to them than a certain number if inches around the waist.

Anyway, sorry to hear about your issue. My take on this is that you're basically just frustrated/jealous and therefore try to construct a story where it's women's fault for being 'that way'. Your lack of success in the dating scene might be due to some fairly simply stuff like not really putting yourself out there, not making an effort, going out there with unrealistic expectations, etc. etc. Given that fact that most people tend to land themselves a partner at some point (and usually, several points) in their life, odds are that it's in the stars for you as well. It's a combination of having a bit of luck and doing what's reasonable to help the odds a little. The first is not in your hands; the second you can work on.

Keep it up, don't give up, don't blame anyone including yourself, and get back on the horse.


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Re: I want to be Gay [Re: koraks] * 1
    #28449871 - 08/28/23 12:57 PM (4 months, 29 days ago)

Pretty sure there are plenty of skinny, stuck up, gay dudes out there who would treat you like shit too..
Some people just aren't going to be into you, it happens. Like Koraks said, all you can do is work on yourself.


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Re: I want to be Gay [Re: Lynnch] * 1
    #28449926 - 08/28/23 01:43 PM (4 months, 29 days ago)

Its mostly because I am not rich it seems they just want someone that pays the bills while they cheat on you. I find fat women as attractive as men. I would rather date a man than a transgender and don't like drag queens it's disgusting.


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Re: I want to be Gay [Re: CaptainTrips420] * 3
    #28449941 - 08/28/23 01:57 PM (4 months, 29 days ago)

If you want to find a chick that likes you, find some non-drug group hobbies. See if there aren't any team sports or maybe try to get into improv or enroll in the local community college to meet people and learn things.

Women are people, some people suck, some people really suck, but most people are fine.


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Re: I want to be Gay [Re: CaptainTrips420]
    #28449950 - 08/28/23 02:05 PM (4 months, 29 days ago)

If the only kind of chick you're attracted to is the kind of chick that is only attracted to money, then, get a job I guess?

But I gotta tell ya, I've hooked up with my share of chicks and never paid their bills.


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Re: I want to be Gay [Re: CaptainTrips420]
    #28449959 - 08/28/23 02:13 PM (4 months, 29 days ago)

Have you tried dating sites where you are able to pick and choose.


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Re: I want to be Gay [Re: CaptainTrips420]
    #28449977 - 08/28/23 02:33 PM (4 months, 29 days ago)

U just gotta take more shroooooms! :mushroom2:

I kid i kid.

Maybe stop chasing shallow women and start chasing secure career women that dont need money from a man? Then you can attract them with your personality instead of your wallet. And maybe dont chase the real skinny ones as they can be a bit too sensitive with their feelings sometimes.


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Re: I want to be Gay [Re: CaptainTrips420]
    #28450015 - 08/28/23 03:03 PM (4 months, 29 days ago)

How old are you?


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Re: I want to be Gay [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #28450441 - 08/28/23 07:58 PM (4 months, 28 days ago)

Some people say being gay is actually really fun. I wouldn't know though. But some say having anal sex every night with someone you love is a very fantastic life.

If you feel like this is something you need to try then by all means try it.

Me though I can't get enough of the females but I know what it's like to have them ruin your life


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Re: I want to be Gay [Re: CaptainTrips420] * 1
    #28450673 - 08/29/23 01:54 AM (4 months, 28 days ago)

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Its mostly because I am not rich



Then work on that. Get rich. Get yourself a nice gold digger - a skinny blonde with big tits, preferably. Ride that wave for a couple of years until she ditches your judgmental ass, taking a considerable chunk out of your material possessions. At that point, you'll be faced with an opportunity, or a crossroads, if you will:

1: repeat the gold digger experience. Some guys do this 5 or 6 times until death parts them with their latest trophy, leaving a rather chaotic heritage, a string of estranged offspring and a bit of a funny reputation.

2: re-evaluate priorities, and select a new partner based on other merits. They may or may not be skinny. They may or may not have a penis. After the gold digger experience, there's a chance you'll have learned a thing or two about yourself and about people in general, and if that's the case, there's a better chance of having a mutually satisfying relationship.

Of course, you could skip to #2 immediately, but it takes some effort in terms of sorting yourself out, reflecting on life, priorities and your own character (emphasizing the nasty sides of it to see how you might make those a little more palatable). You'll come across questions like "what exactly is it I have to offer to a prospective partner"? It's a question that's fairly easily answered in the case of most people (homicidal maniacs excepted, for the most part), but that also requires some effort to put into practice. I.e., you have something to offer, but in presenting that to a prospective partner, try not to shoot yourself in the foot as much as you're doing now.

Anyway, lots of opportunities ahead, also some work to be done; get cracking. Or keep whining about it, of course, but that's not going to get you anywhere and at most it'll give you some more negative feedback and criticism as you've been receiving in this thread. What's it going to be?


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Re: I want to be Gay [Re: CaptainTrips420] * 4
    #28450686 - 08/29/23 02:06 AM (4 months, 28 days ago)

Part of the problem is the way you're talking about women on this thread.

Why would a woman want to be with someone who feels all these negative things about them? Even if you try to hide these things, it's probably going to come out in the way you treat them and the things you say.

No one wants to be with someone who thinks they're a "delicate super high maintenance stuck-up wallflower with control problems and a god complex who gets set off by the smallest thing and only cares about money and just wants someone who pays the bills while they cheat." That in and of itself going to drive all women away, even if you try to hide how you feel. Also tons of women (even very skinny ones) honestly think they're fat, so your belief that "fat women are just as unattractive as men" is going to drive pretty much all women away, even the ones who don't think they're fat. When a woman thinks to herself "would he still like me if I was fat?" how do you think she'd feel about you in that moment?

I went from having not much money to having a lot, and it didn't change my dating life at all. If you think that's going to have any impact, you're dead wrong.

The problem is not your looks, or your money. So get back on that horse and keep trying. Expect to get turned down hundreds of times, that's normal.


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Re: I want to be Gay [Re: CaptainTrips420]
    #28451313 - 08/29/23 03:50 PM (4 months, 28 days ago)

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. . . women treat me like I am a bug on the bottom of their shoes.




I wonder if courtship between men is much easier and more honest.

Gay men sometimes talk about how easy it is to get a date . . .


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Re: I want to be Gay [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #28451319 - 08/29/23 03:54 PM (4 months, 28 days ago)

Just go to bar and get shit faced for few nights


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Re: I want to be Gay [Re: nooneman]
    #28451329 - 08/29/23 04:03 PM (4 months, 28 days ago)

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Why would a woman want to be with someone who feels all these negative things about them? Even if you try to hide these things, it's probably going to come out in the way you treat them and the things you say.




:thumbup:  I struggle with this sometimes.  Very good point.  Men often believe they must "sell" themselves when they court a woman.  Of course, there is some truth to that.  Courtship is a game.  Woman are looking for certain traits in a man.  Men are not quite as particular maybe?   

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Expect to get turned down hundreds of times, that's normal.




Since the dawn of our species, women have always had power over men.


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Re: I want to be Gay [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #28451471 - 08/29/23 06:08 PM (4 months, 28 days ago)

Sounds like you've been listening to what other men who can't get women (because of their personality) say about women only wanting money etc. obviously you struggle to enjoy the company of women when you've already decided you hate them. Rich men are not the only ones in relationships and studies show men are more likely to cheat than women. I don't think you can just force yourself to be gay and I don't think you should do that just because you've so far had bad experiences with women.


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Re: I want to be Gay [Re: RJ Tubs 202] * 1
    #28452250 - 08/30/23 10:33 AM (4 months, 27 days ago)

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CaptainTrips420 said:

. . . women treat me like I am a bug on the bottom of their shoes.




I wonder if courtship between men is much easier and more honest.

Gay men sometimes talk about how easy it is to get a date . . .




Ime gay relationships even lesbian ones are often fraught with disloyalty.
I think they may be honest that to a fault.. like they want this new dick/ass and they aren't going to let anything stop them?
So dunno If this is the kind of honesty or situational instance where we could say it's easier or more honest of a relation..
Gay dudes def have no prob finding gay dates it's like that crew is Uber willing and men are "simpler" would be my best explanation..
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Why would a woman want to be with someone who feels all these negative things about them? Even if you try to hide these things, it's probably going to come out in the way you treat them and the things you say.




:thumbup:  I struggle with this sometimes.  Very good point.  Men often believe they must "sell" themselves when they court a woman.  Of course, there is some truth to that.  Courtship is a game.  Woman are looking for certain traits in a man.  Men are not quite as particular maybe?   

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Expect to get turned down hundreds of times, that's normal.




Since the dawn of our species, women have always had power over men.




I struggle similarly, but more bc of low expectations for humans ,in general, regardless of gender. I've had luck just being me , that's the game I play, if they are into that, then we can continue to play ball, and this into the last statement, I find if a woman is ok with my character/personality; it's often a sign of a woman that better deals with this power that they certainly have to an extent.
Then it becomes of import how that woman deals with that power, and while I've had less luck with that long term. The ones I want to and have spent the most time with, are certainly kinder about the wielding of said power.
We are all equals at the end of it, women should be able to operate closer to this, rather than use our biology to their "favor"


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Re: I want to be Gay [Re: ashfiken] * 6
    #28452479 - 08/30/23 02:40 PM (4 months, 27 days ago)

Don’t take this the wrong way, but you seem really young OP, way too young to be reciting jaded and defeatist incel talking points.

You are posting on a website about psychedelics so I am going to assume you understand how powerful perception is. Your perception is totally out of wack, of not only women but of yourself. How you perceive both yourself and the world around you is the foundation upon which you build your reality. Using an extreme example, if a paranoid person believes themselves to be stocked, subconsciously they will constantly be on alert for anything that will support that narrative, suddenly even the smallest coincidence can become undeniable truth for them of some sort of wide spread conspiracy against them. Our brains are very power and pesky things that are constantly trying to convince us of things that aren’t always true.

Based purely off your post, you perceive women as…
- Disrespectful
- Condescending
- High Maintenance
- Unpredictable
- Stuck Up
- Money Grubbing
- Controlling
- Egotistical

If you live your life with this view of women, your brain will subconsciously highlight any interaction that supports that narrative and ignore any interaction that challenges it. That’s not to say some women aren’t any of these things on a bad day, but these are all broad generalizations. Let’s take a sentence you posted and replace “women” with “people from Alabama.”

“I just never meet a person from Alabama with a good personality always stuck-up people from Alabama with control problems and a God complex”

You see how silly that is? You might meet someone from Alabama with control issues and a god complex but taking the leap to say EVERYONE from Alabama is that way is rather preposterous. So when the population of Alabama is 5 million and there are close to 4 billion women in the world, I hope you see my point.

I am not trying to discount the fact that you may have met some genuinely horrible women, there are shitty women out there just the same as there as shitty men. But if I were to say, “All men are dangerous perverts.” just because of the actions of a small subset of men that would be just as preposterous as what you are saying. Plain and simple, the average woman does not hate men. Men are our fathers, our brothers, our sons and our close lifelong friends.

If you live your life seeing women as villains they are going to become villains. If you do not respect women, and view them all to be vain and hateful, then why would you expect them to respect you in return? If I had to guess, the way you perceive women is affecting the way you interact with them more than you notice. You might not notice or recognize it, but they do.

And again, that’s not to say some women can’t be horrible, especially younger women who haven’t kicked the high school bullshit phase of their lives. I know that first hand. I was homeschooled for all but my Junior and Senior years of highschool and those two years almost killed me. It made me hate humans and hate the world for years afterwards. But those were just the actions of young confused people during a very confusing phase of their lives. I’m sure many of them grew up to be perfectly respectable and caring people as they found themselves over the years.

I also think it’s important that you change how you perceive yourself just as much as it is to change how you perceive women. It sounds to me like you have a big confidence issue, and that is something people are able to pick up on. The fact your brain jumps straight to, “I wish I was gay because all women hate me and will always hate me and there is absolutely no hope for me at all,” speaks volumes to me. I’m sorry but that’s completely bullshit. You are valid. You are lovable. And you are enough. Everyone is. Just because it hasn’t happened yet doesn’t mean it won’t, and telling yourself it will never happen is doing you no favors. By telling yourself all women hate you and will always hate you, you are making that into a reality. If you close off your heart to women to protect yourself is it any wonder that no one can get it? The door is already closed.

This post is starting to run a little long, so I will try starting to wrap it up. OP, you are not a lost cause. You just might want to start rethinking how you view both yourself and women. Persecution really is a powerful thing. If you have the resources for it, therapy might be something very helpful for you in dealing with these issues. Please do not get mad at me for this suggestion, or think it an insult. Therapy is a very powerful tool used by millions of people and I have been using it for years.

Please know that this post comes from a place of genuine care, support, and understanding. Just because I am a woman I hope you don’t take this as just some “foid” on the internet lecturing you. The world is already lonely and depressing enough without automatically writing off over half of the world's population as your enemy. I hope you find something of value in this post and I truly and honestly do hope the best for you.


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Re: I want to be Gay [Re: SARAtonin]
    #28452516 - 08/30/23 03:27 PM (4 months, 27 days ago)

Is it easy to get therapy for years when you have vast amounts of money and you can pay for it? I mean owning that estate in Canada. Looks like big bucks. Did you ever find that servant that you were going to carefully carefully carefully filter who was going to live there and take care of the place interviewed by you and the first lady?

I have lots of money too and can pay for lots of therapy too. I'm just not sure if I have as much as you have. I don't own like 30 acres or anything like that.


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