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Re: looks like justice thomas had 3 other billionaire benefactors [Re: rxb]
    #28441695 - 08/21/23 12:34 PM (5 months, 4 days ago)

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all the writings on the case (i cant find the opinion letter for whatever reason) point to the majority claiming that the point of the first amendment was to keep things like this from happening, and while the decision was made BY WAY of the 14th amendment it seemed to be the opinion of the court that was the founders intent.



You're right about the founders' intent vis a vis the contours of the first amendment right.  You're just wrong about whether the founders intended the first amendment to restrict the state governments, though.


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Re: looks like justice thomas had 3 other billionaire benefactors [Re: gww]
    #28441712 - 08/21/23 12:48 PM (5 months, 4 days ago)

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My contention is privacy was the foundation for the bill of rights of the federal gov. 



Let's unpack this a little bit, though. If we agree that the bill of rights was only intended as a limitation on the federal government, then what is this right to privacy that was intended by the bill of rights?

The fourth amendment literally talks about a privacy interest, although it doesn't use the word.

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The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects,[a] against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized




I think we both agree that this is a clear protection of a privacy interest.  If the founders meant something broader, however, why wouldn't they have written that?

Also, you'd agree that at the time of ratification, citizens were subject to all kinds of rules about private matters.  Who they could marry, who they could sleep with, what sexual acts were allowed...all of these were subjects of state law at the time.


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Re: looks like justice thomas had 3 other billionaire benefactors [Re: Enlil]
    #28441731 - 08/21/23 01:04 PM (5 months, 4 days ago)

this is pretty far off the topic of finding ways to stop the supreme court from taking bribes and converting them into judgements.


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Re: looks like justice thomas had 3 other billionaire benefactors [Re: rxb] * 1
    #28441736 - 08/21/23 01:07 PM (5 months, 4 days ago)

That isn't the topic of the OP.  Maybe you meant it to be but failed to clearly spell it out.  It seems to me that the overturning of Roe V. Wade is on-topic insofar as gww opines that it is because of SCOTUS corruption.  Offering competing explanations for that overturning is equally on-topic.


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Re: looks like justice thomas had 3 other billionaire benefactors [Re: Enlil]
    #28441758 - 08/21/23 01:20 PM (5 months, 4 days ago)

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That isn't the topic of the OP.  Maybe you meant it to be but failed to clearly spell it out.  It seems to me that the overturning of Roe V. Wade is on-topic insofar as gww opines that it is because of SCOTUS corruption.  Offering competing explanations for that overturning is equally on-topic.




the original topic is about the fact that a supreme court justice is being bribed by 4 billionaires.

and the fact that it played a role in overturning roe was indeed on the table but you are guiding this down a tangent of a tangent of a tangent and its pretty far off that. try to get it back on track enlil you are breaking forum rules.


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Re: looks like justice thomas had 3 other billionaire benefactors [Re: Enlil]
    #28441766 - 08/21/23 01:23 PM (5 months, 4 days ago)

I am not quite that deep.  I just saw comment that interested me enough to make my own comment.  My comment that started this and after others was that I do believe the democrats would try and fix abortion if given the chance and not just hold it out there for votes.  And that they would face a back lash for it but I think would do it anyway.  Be honest, I usually go from last comment wherever it takes me.  I am not good at staying on topic. I am not purposeful in this but it is just the way it is.


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Re: looks like justice thomas had 3 other billionaire benefactors [Re: rxb]
    #28441767 - 08/21/23 01:23 PM (5 months, 4 days ago)

It's extremely messed up how many reports are coming out about how corrupt Justice Thomas (and others on the SC) is.  It's mind boggling and seems like a gigantic "fuck you" to every single person in the USA.


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Re: looks like justice thomas had 3 other billionaire benefactors [Re: rxb]
    #28441769 - 08/21/23 01:25 PM (5 months, 4 days ago)

If you believe so, you should report it to the authorities.


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Re: looks like justice thomas had 3 other billionaire benefactors [Re: Enlil]
    #28441780 - 08/21/23 01:30 PM (5 months, 4 days ago)

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If you believe so, you should report it to the authorities.




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Re: looks like justice thomas had 3 other billionaire benefactors [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
    #28441784 - 08/21/23 01:32 PM (5 months, 4 days ago)

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It's extremely messed up how many reports are coming out about how corrupt Justice Thomas (and others on the SC) is.  It's mind boggling and seems like a gigantic "fuck you" to every single person in the USA.




not only that but it seems like they are throwing it in the face of the people that they are above the law because they are the ultimate authority.

which is down right criminal imo.


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Re: looks like justice thomas had 3 other billionaire benefactors [Re: rxb]
    #28441841 - 08/21/23 02:16 PM (5 months, 4 days ago)

Can you cite the relevant criminal statute?


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Re: looks like justice thomas had 3 other billionaire benefactors [Re: Enlil]
    #28441852 - 08/21/23 02:26 PM (5 months, 4 days ago)

Perhaps the federal bribery law.

Perhaps it's 18 U.S. Code § 201 - Bribery of public officials and witnesses.

Justice Thomas and others haven't been reporting all their donations or whatever that they've received that cross the threshold amount for reporting, which they are supposed to do.


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Re: looks like justice thomas had 3 other billionaire benefactors [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
    #28441885 - 08/21/23 02:54 PM (5 months, 4 days ago)

Maybe.  I haven't seen any evidence that any money has been paid for purposes of inducing any official act.  I don't know what you mean by donation threshold, though.  Justice Thomas isn't running for any office, so I don't see how he gets donations that would apply to reporting limits.


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Re: looks like justice thomas had 3 other billionaire benefactors [Re: Enlil]
    #28442609 - 08/22/23 10:02 AM (5 months, 3 days ago)

In the end, I think it comes up to the Justices' not even giving the appearance of impropriety / conflict of interest.

At the very least, Thomas conduct does raise unnecessary doubts regarding this, IMO. I don't think hand crafted legislation would nesscarily fix this; and in fact, politize the SCOTUS more than it already is.

If the Supremes' can't police or take it upon themselves to do this, being there are no political campaigns in their mode, the institution would fall down on its own and have less respectability. I don't think it's at that level, yet.


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Re: looks like justice thomas had 3 other billionaire benefactors [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #28448080 - 08/27/23 07:11 AM (4 months, 29 days ago)

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Apparently this Leonard Leo guy has been donating the supreme Court billions...


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Re: looks like justice thomas had 3 other billionaire benefactors [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
    #28448088 - 08/27/23 07:24 AM (4 months, 29 days ago)

Sorry he helped funnel the money...


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