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My nightmare. (discussion of NREM sleep)
    #28447017 - 08/26/23 05:25 AM (5 months, 3 hours ago)

It’s always a troubling beggining. When your dream starts. Where you are exactly. In the dream. I went over to my window and tried to close it. I was having a very difficult time with this. The windows are very difficult to open and close in this house. I begin to feel something very creepy.

Thankfully, the window was completely closed.

It is undefined, but malicious. I quickly returned to my bed and bring up the covers.

I try to speak out to my friend. But I remember they have gone to bed. It is late.

As I sit there, I try lay down to calm myself. But then I hear some kind of laughter directed at me. I lean up.

Now, even though it was pitch black. I can feel that there is a window directly above me floating there. Above the bed. It is open.

“ Well, this isn’t good.” With no time to question it. I start trying very hard to close this.
At this point I am trying as hard as I can to call out for help. Even though I can’t. Imagine that scene where someone lost their tongue in the movie. Except you can’t even be as loud as they are. It’s like your voice has been taken.

As I’m pushing down on the window, something is pushing the window open and laughing. I needed to ground myself in that moment.

I decided that no matter what this is. I’m going to just start meditating and relax. I was instantly back in my room. Everything was mindane, no floating window. Like it was supposed to be. I am still suffering from insomnia. I can’t tell if that was a dream. One I just woke up from. Or if that shit just happened.

Deeply concerning either way. I’m going to keep this thread open. I might decide to post dreams in separate logs. Or maybe this will be a dream log. Just needed to be written down.


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Re: My nightmare. [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28447038 - 08/26/23 06:10 AM (5 months, 3 hours ago)



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Re: My nightmare. [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28447133 - 08/26/23 08:29 AM (5 months, 52 minutes ago)

Every thread started is another window opening up to potential ridicule which, once begun, is impossible to quell.

when you have so many threads open in the walls of your space, the ceiling provides new real estate for exposure.

Because of the bizarre content depicted in your animated avatar I presume that Up and Down and Sideways are equal to you (having defeated gravity that others merely accept) but also I presume a high degree of self ridicule since the figure seems like an entrapped soul.


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Re: My nightmare. [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28447206 - 08/26/23 09:28 AM (4 months, 30 days ago)

I am open. This is my experience. Peoples take away can be whatever they want. Now my dear friend.

I have noticed in many of your responses. You seem to be fascinated with my avatar.

That is the man..
The man is every person on earth.
He is open to every experience.
Because he thought he had experienced all there is.
So when he approaches the chair suspended in the air. That spins with no care.
He knew he had to try it.
Even though it might make him sick.
It had to be tried.

This clip is actually from a very humorous movie. Did you know that?

Scary movie 2.

In it they are referencing a bunch of horror movies in jest.

One movie.
The ring
In particular.
In the film there is a video cassette tape. That once watched. Will kill you in seven days.
The contents of this tape are completely different depending on who is watching it.
The contents of this tape are supposed to be unspeakable.
When I saw the tape.
While watching scary movie two.
That is the image that stuck with me the most.
I find my avatar image quite charming.

And as far as actual dream interpretation. That was my specialty. Literally what drove me to be fascinated with psychology to begin with. My dream with Annabel changed my life. I wanted to do more research on dreams. I wanted to know how to wake up from REM sleep dreams. That way I could integrate them into my writing. Unhealthy goal by the way.

You are supposed to have non-rem dreams. They’re easy-going. They are to transition you more softly between dream phases. By using too much marijuana. You stop having non-REM sleep dreams. Then you will always wake up from a rem sleep dream. To give an example. When you wake up from a nightmare in a cold sweat. It was so incredibly real. That was a rem sleep dream. When you gently wake up because the room has grown brighter from the outside. You don’t remember your dream. You woke up like you were supposed to. From a non-rem sleep dream. Which can be as benign as waiting for a bus that didn’t arrive yet.

I have literally been asked multiple times by people in my life. To interpret their dreams or nightmares. I’m pretty darn good at it I would say. If any of you, for instance, would like to have one of your dreams analyzed.

I can start you out with the color set. Bathroom.
Or white.
You find yourself to be disgusting. You Need to be cleansed. Whether this is physical or emotional is based on you. But think of this as you wanting an emotional baptism. That’s the only reason you should be having a dream when you’re in the bathroom. This usually only happens when somebody takes advantage of you. Which makes you feel dirty.

Gray represents mystery. The intangible. When you meet yourself in a dream….
They will usually be clad in gray. Because you don’t actually know exactly how to feel about yourself. You can be so many different ways.

Red is appetite. This can be sexual, visceral, or physical.
Meaning, sex, violence, or hunger. Pretty self-explanatory. Just paint your kitchen red.

Blue. In particular a very dark blue. Actually has a duality.
If you are depressed. It will make you slightly less depressed. As if it wants you to keep being alive. So you can continue to be depressed. If you are not depressed, however.
It can actively make you a bit depressed. It’s a Come Down color. It’s for when you’re trying to ground yourself. It is soothing. It is the ocean.

Green is the thinking man’s color. It promotes higher thought, creativity, and improvisation. This is the color of your study. Where you go to have the big thoughts. If you find yourself in a room colored green in your dream. You’ve been trying to work on some problem of yours. Or trying to make a solution for yourself.

Now there were a couple others. But these are the most prevalent. Again. I will throw it out there. I don’t think people will take me seriously for a while. But I actually am qualified. But also free. Why does it matter if I’m super well qualified. Find out for yourself.

I will offer a free therapy session to anyone who asks me. I will also offer one free dream or nightmare interpretation.
You need to be completely sincere.
But I am a good therapist.

That being said. The app is interesting. I wonder how many therapist and psychiatrist worked on it. It would need to be more than 100 for me to be interested in it though. If it’s just one therapist, thinking they can tell every single person on earth what their dreams and nightmares are. They are wrong.
I can offer an opinion.
I’m sure this app can too.


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Re: My nightmare. [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 1
    #28447223 - 08/26/23 09:56 AM (4 months, 30 days ago)

True, I do like your wacky animated avatar.

But AFAIK, there is no such thing as non-REM dreams except for waking dreams (daydreams, and drug induced waking dreams).
Non-REM is a term applied to dreamless sleep (just sleep or unconsciousness).

Can you point to what made you imagine there are Non-REM dreams, and why we are "supposed to have them"?

You may have been exposed to some fake science in that regard.

I think your color associations are personal and a bit idiosyncratic, and certainly christian dominated, but if your dream clientele are christian they will have a leg-up with your dream interpretation ideas. (at least one leg)

I used to subscribe to Tibetan color association, and then TAROT color associations from the CASE book on Tarot, but now I think it is all fairly subjective associative meanings, based upon experience of what happened with what, like virtually everything in life.


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Re: My nightmare. [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28447224 - 08/26/23 09:58 AM (4 months, 30 days ago)

LOL, it being Saturday/August we might have a rodeo and see
The Blind Ass submit to therapy.


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Re: My nightmare. [Re: Buster_Brown] * 1
    #28447237 - 08/26/23 10:18 AM (4 months, 30 days ago)



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Re: My nightmare. [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28447239 - 08/26/23 10:21 AM (4 months, 30 days ago)

Of course.
I disagree. I do believe there are non-rem sleep dreams I have experienced them. You’re reading a book with no words. You’re sitting in a room with nothing to do and that’s fine. It’s literally just to transition you out of one phase of sleep into another. When you first go to sleep, you’re in non-rem cycle. Which transitions you into rem. Were you transition back-and-forth multiple times. But after REM sleep. You are supposed to transition. Into non-rem sleep like you said it’s very simple. So simple you can’t remember them 99% of the time. When you wake up from a rem sleep dream you can remember them with ridiculous detail. 99% of the time.



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Re: My nightmare. [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28447244 - 08/26/23 10:26 AM (4 months, 30 days ago)

I love it 😄

Blind ass
Tell me your wackiest dream that you wish to have interpreted. I will do my best to try and pull it apart and tell you what I can.


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Re: My nightmare. [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28447271 - 08/26/23 10:48 AM (4 months, 30 days ago)

BB's pulling your leg.  :lol:

Quote:

GenesisCorrupted said:
I do believe there are non-rem sleep dreams I have experienced them.




Also, as for in the quote above, did you mean or were you referring to hallucinations related to either of the following:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypnagogia ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypnopompia ?


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Re: My nightmare. [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #28447273 - 08/26/23 10:51 AM (4 months, 30 days ago)

I have never heard them referred to in this manner. But yes. This is exactly what I am describing. The non-REM sleep dream being so simple. But you being so very cognizant. Especially for self actualized people. Such as myself.
I always am and act as I would in that situation. I just don’t remember how I got in it. Non-REM sleep dreams usually are the time when you can realize that you are dreaming.
“Why does this book have no words?”
Who took all the numbers off this clock?
The best way. It’s just difficult to remember at the time of course. Is to attempt to count your fingers. Numbers do not exist in this place.
After your third attempt at being unable to count. You can realize that you are in a dream. This makes the potential limitless. But it also takes away the entire point of being asleep. Because your brain is now doing enough work that you aren’t resting anymore.

It is still unknown why heavy marijuana users are no longer able to enter non-REM state. They are sent directly into rem. They awaken directly out of rem.
The implications of this are as of yet unknown. I personally think it must be bad to avoid doing something that you are supposed to do. It is excellent for writing however. Because the dreams are so intense and vivid.


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Re: My nightmare. [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28447278 - 08/26/23 11:00 AM (4 months, 30 days ago)

I'm familiar with what you're speaking of.
ie. lucid dreaming.
Regarding certain methods, techniques, and or practices relating to it, the term you might be looking for is 'Reality Testing'
- and there are countless ways to go about it. :thumbup:


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Re: My nightmare. [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #28447311 - 08/26/23 11:27 AM (4 months, 30 days ago)

Precisely. Just find your favorite method and you can do lucid dreams whenever you want. These methods are particularly useful for escaping a particularly awful nightmare. Which I have used many times. It’s like an escape rope in Pokémon. “Get me the fuck out of here!”
Break the dreams rythm. Go to a different dream. It’s kind of like drawing a different card when you did not like the one you got. I already told you my method at the top of this post.


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Re: My nightmare. [Re: GenesisCorrupted] * 1
    #28447312 - 08/26/23 11:29 AM (4 months, 30 days ago)

Quote:

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Of course.
I disagree. I do believe there are non-rem sleep dreams I have experienced them. You’re reading a book with no words. You’re sitting in a room with nothing to do and that’s fine. It’s literally just to transition you out of one phase of sleep into another. When you first go to sleep, you’re in non-rem cycle. Which transitions you into rem. Were you transition back-and-forth multiple times. But after REM sleep. You are supposed to transition. Into non-rem sleep like you said it’s very simple. So simple you can’t remember them 99% of the time. When you wake up from a rem sleep dream you can remember them with ridiculous detail. 99% of the time.





you have misinterpreted this brief phone screencap to mean something about dreams which it does not say.
All sleep dreaming occurs during REM sleep
NO dreams occur during NREM sleep regardless of sequences or count of cycles of REM and NREM.
What makes you think dreaming occurs while you have no alpha or theta rhythm. you must have alpha or theta rhythm wave detectable brain activity to have dreams.

otherwise 
you are dreaming, man
it's a fact - lookitup!


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Re: My nightmare. [Re: redgreenvines]
    #28447317 - 08/26/23 11:31 AM (4 months, 30 days ago)

It’s fine to disagree.
I have personally been in non-rem sleep dreams. Maybe I misinterpreted and I was still in REM sleep. I don’t think it was. It was a completely white void. Dreams usually have details. I am not a normal sleep patterned person. I have insomnia. Perhaps my experience is unique. I just pulled that up as a visual aid. I learned all of this stuff in my psychology college courses. I am not trying to mislead or lie to anyone.


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Re: My nightmare. [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28447371 - 08/26/23 12:22 PM (4 months, 30 days ago)

you forgot the meaning of that part of your psych course, or never had it delivered correctly, just use google and read the content. REM means dreaming is happening during sleep.


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Re: My nightmare. [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28447375 - 08/26/23 12:23 PM (4 months, 30 days ago)

Sometimes, although in this particular instance you'd be factually incorrect. :goodmorning:


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Re: My nightmare. [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #28447382 - 08/26/23 12:30 PM (4 months, 30 days ago)

Blind ass

In the way you commented. It is impossible to tell which of us you are referencing. Please elaborate for us.


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Re: My nightmare. [Re: GenesisCorrupted]
    #28447383 - 08/26/23 12:32 PM (4 months, 30 days ago)

If you look at the 'reply to' function it indicates whom the post is in response to, and, in both this & that case they're both directed to you.  :thumbup:


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Re: My nightmare. [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #28447386 - 08/26/23 12:34 PM (4 months, 30 days ago)

Genesys sent me this link https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/08/160809121817.htm
I declare that the link is inaccurate both in its representation of facts and especially in the way the facts are determined.


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