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What if there is a secondary meaning?
    #28445672 - 08/24/23 09:10 PM (5 months, 1 day ago)

"Seeing" "green"?


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Re: What if there is a secondary meaning? [Re: solarshroomster]
    #28445681 - 08/24/23 09:14 PM (5 months, 1 day ago)

I don't know. I just feel like "Reality" falls apart.' Seeing reality as alive...

not being so literal...


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Re: What if there is a secondary meaning? [Re: solarshroomster] * 1
    #28445830 - 08/24/23 10:01 PM (5 months, 1 day ago)

Me just rambling

I noticed something when people, like speakers on the tubes or whoever, around their insight and such, are asked, or they say, 'it left me effected in this or that way ever since.' And though there can be lasting effects, not to knock the people, insights are like tools that you start over with each day. There was empowerment in the thought as we choose to implement our experience anew.

Someone asked the Buddha, are you God, are you this or that? He said, 'I am awake.'


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Re: What if there is a secondary meaning? [Re: syncro] * 1
    #28445876 - 08/24/23 10:31 PM (5 months, 1 day ago)

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Me just rambling

I noticed something when people, like speakers on the tubes or whoever, around their insight and such, are asked, or they say, 'it left me effected in this or that way ever since.' And though there can be lasting effects, not to knock the people, insights are like tools that you start over with each day. There was empowerment in the thought as we choose to implement our experience anew.

Someone asked the Buddha, are you God, are you this or that? He said, 'I am awake.'




Literally, just hat's off!


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Re: What if there is a secondary meaning? [Re: syncro] * 1
    #28446587 - 08/25/23 03:44 PM (5 months, 16 hours ago)

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Someone asked the Buddha, are you God, are you this or that? He said, 'I am awake.'




Good one. It's from the Dona Sutta.

“It is said that soon after his enlightenment, the Buddha passed a man on the road who was
struck by the extraordinary radiance and peacefulness of his presence. The man stopped and
asked, “My friend, what are you? Are you a celestial being or a God?” “No,” said the Buddha.
“Well, then, are you some sort of magician or wizard?” Again the Buddha answered, “No.”
“Are you a man?” “No.”

“Well, my friend, what are you then?”

“I am awake.”


Edited by AnattaAtman (08/25/23 03:45 PM)


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Re: What if there is a secondary meaning? [Re: AnattaAtman] * 1
    #28446631 - 08/25/23 04:35 PM (5 months, 15 hours ago)

I'll ramble too :awehigh:

Seeing color is just fascinating in its own right, I mean what even is a color?

How would one explain a color to someone who has never seen that/a color?

It's as if it's a direct transmission of knowledge through experience

Has any one noticed the more you say a word the funnier it sounds , almost as if it doesn't mean anything ? :strokebeard: I've experienced that since I was a young child :lol:

Color .. another name ... another form?
A fun one to experience thats for sure and the spectrum it beholds , does it start with black and end with white? Does it start with white and end with black?

I really like the dualism of white and black:yinyang: then you have the spectrum in between these two seemingly contrasting colors

Now I will puff some more :potleaf: and just kind of be like woah I'm alive


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Re: What if there is a secondary meaning? [Re: connectedcosmos] * 2
    #28447208 - 08/26/23 09:32 AM (4 months, 30 days ago)

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Seeing color is just fascinating in its own right, I mean what even is a color?

How would one explain a color to someone who has never seen that/a color?




You couldn't. That's why it's ineffable. The whole world is actually like this as well. We can't explain any of it to anyone, and we don't know anyone is experiencing what you are experiencing... it's just an assumption. What you perceive as color may look like shapes to someone else or like something far unknown to your concepts.

Basically, we don't know why we are here to experience any of what we are experiencing! WOW!!!!

"You stop explaining yourself when you realize people only understand from their level of perception" ~ Jim Carrey

You totally get what I was getting at. Why does our world have colors in it? Did it have to? Wow!

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Has any one noticed the more you say a word the funnier it sounds , almost as if it doesn't mean anything ? :strokebeard: I've experienced that since I was a young child :lol:





Yes! I've definitely noticed this as well. Words are funny, when you think about them. They are just symbols for something that we don't understand why it is exists and are created by our mind into "concepts" and "ideas". Like "the United States of America". It's all made up and yet real at the same time. To think that Reality / the Universe evolved to a point where it was inspired to create ideas and terms like "brother", "sister", "color", "United States of America". Repeat it again and again, and it's funny that any of this stuff just "exists".

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Now I will puff some more :potleaf: and just kind of be like woah I'm alive









That's right, existence never gets old. It's the one thing that lives forever, and it's all of us together..!!


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Re: What if there is a secondary meaning? [Re: solarshroomster] * 1
    #28447218 - 08/26/23 09:48 AM (4 months, 30 days ago)

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Yes! I've definitely noticed this as well. Words are funny, when you think about them. They are just symbols for something that we don't understand why it is exists and are created by our mind into "concepts" and "ideas".




"Notice that when I speak, if your internal dictionary matches my internal dictionary,
that my thoughts cross through the air as an acoustical pressure wave and are reconstructed
inside your cerebral cortex as your thought, your understanding of my words. Telepathy exists,
it's just that the carrier wave is small mouth noises."
-Terence McKenna


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Re: What if there is a secondary meaning? [Re: AnattaAtman] * 1
    #28447220 - 08/26/23 09:51 AM (4 months, 30 days ago)

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Yes! I've definitely noticed this as well. Words are funny, when you think about them. They are just symbols for something that we don't understand why it is exists and are created by our mind into "concepts" and "ideas".




"Notice that when I speak, if your internal dictionary matches my internal dictionary,
that my thoughts cross through the air as an acoustical pressure wave and are reconstructed
inside your cerebral cortex as your thought, your understanding of my words. Telepathy exists,
it's just that the carrier wave is small mouth noises."
-Terence McKenna




Yep, thought of this myself. It's proof we are all interconnected!

They don't teach these stuff in school. Somewhat sad (or romantic, depending on your perspective) that I had to figure it all out through weed and shrooms.


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Re: What if there is a secondary meaning? [Re: solarshroomster] * 1
    #28447255 - 08/26/23 10:34 AM (4 months, 30 days ago)

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Somewhat sad (or romantic, depending on your perspective) that I had to figure it all out through weed and shrooms.




Yeah. Trips are true, and the truth is a trip.


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Re: What if there is a secondary meaning? [Re: solarshroomster]
    #28447962 - 08/26/23 11:14 PM (4 months, 30 days ago)

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It's proof we are all interconnected!




You may like the general idea of memetics, which basically says that thoughts are viruses, which
breed on human organisms. If you are interested, the best book on the subject is called "Virus
of the Mind", by Richard Brodie.


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Re: What if there is a secondary meaning? [Re: AnattaAtman]
    #28448128 - 08/27/23 08:11 AM (4 months, 30 days ago)

https://media.evolveconsciousness.org/books/consciousness/Virus-of-the-Mind-The-New-Science-of-the-Meme-Richard-Brodie.pdf

Nice. It has boxed quotes throughout so can scroll through the gist quickly if desired.

Viruses of the mind, and the whole science of memetics,
represent a major paradigm shift in the science of the mind.


Consciously spreading ideas you consider important is one
way to combat mind viruses.


Essentially is that memes are viruses which are replicators, and that evolution, the selfish gene, is motivated only be being the best replicator.

Meme evolution is not designed to benefit the individual.


SPOILER and I'm not assuming to do justice to reading the whole thing through.

His solutions come about in disinfecting oneself of memes, freeing from the patterns that do not serve, and he talks about Zen, etc. But in this I'm not sure it is escaping memes, nor if he is saying it does, but it seems so.

FrOg POnd PlOp


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Re: What if there is a secondary meaning? [Re: syncro]
    #28448216 - 08/27/23 09:23 AM (4 months, 29 days ago)

I see that I'm conflating. The point is memes or viruses spread because they can, efficient at replication, for no other reason. Viruses mimic life only in that respect, if life includes what, bringing some other intention.


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Re: What if there is a secondary meaning? [Re: syncro]
    #28452769 - 08/30/23 07:35 PM (4 months, 26 days ago)

Why do we better remember experience or information linked to more impactful experience or importance? "Memories linked with strong emotions often become seared in the brain."

Why memory can fail us, not to mention that spiritual experience is often without definition. I suppose feeling works the same way with memory but bringing habit strings them together and habit or conscious 'action' is reinforced. I'm watching a crime thriller series, and a detective said two days and 70% of memories fail around the experience. I searched and found this around corporate training. New to me, or I had forgotten.



From another site, spaced learning, repetition.



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Re: What if there is a secondary meaning? [Re: solarshroomster] * 4
    #28454306 - 08/31/23 09:28 PM (4 months, 25 days ago)

Colors are indeed mystical in their own right.  Variety (of colors) is the Spice of Life!

:loveheart:


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Re: What if there is a secondary meaning? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #28454448 - 09/01/23 02:52 AM (4 months, 25 days ago)

Wow. thank you... everyone!!!!


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    #28454449 - 09/01/23 02:54 AM (4 months, 25 days ago)

I just love the mushrooms... faeries and all...


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    #28454460 - 09/01/23 03:22 AM (4 months, 25 days ago)

tell me a story... tell me a story... of infinite wonder and awe...


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    #28454471 - 09/01/23 03:55 AM (4 months, 25 days ago)

Where do the clouds go ? Would you like to know? Some seem to flow from east to west some seem to sit at rest... if you see and passed the test you will know, where do the clouds go?  :lol:


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    #28454789 - 09/01/23 10:42 AM (4 months, 24 days ago)

I had a thing then I forgot
As it was there and then was not
In different form it came again
And said you're That you try to win

One said to keep eternal shield
Next that I am He that wields
And then the mind has none but He
Where mind is there the treasure be.

*I searched on nous because of yous :smile:
And found in gnostic varies of use
And found in that dear one of He
is she who said His words you see.

Where mind is there the treasure be
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Re: What if there is a secondary meaning? [Re: syncro]
    #28455042 - 09/01/23 03:18 PM (4 months, 24 days ago)

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I noticed something when people, like speakers on the tubes or whoever, around their insight and such, are asked, or they say, 'it left me effected in this or that way ever since.' And though there can be lasting effects, not to knock the people, insights are like tools that you start over with each day.




Reminds me of when people claim to speak their "truth" 

The truth is a lot like the weather . . .


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    #28455309 - 09/01/23 07:07 PM (4 months, 24 days ago)

I think when it comes to the mystical, as I said in my silly poem - in different form it came again - these are saying the same thing as mind in that aspect is. I talk about inspirations coming and going; we talk about the cycles. I mean to share that ime their essence is the same; we don't lose some thing and get another.

In the non-mystical views of meditation, it appears the same things are experienced, mentioned, though not emphasized, letting it pass or be, etc. This is good because one may get caught up in the more conceptual around them.


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    #28455320 - 09/01/23 07:16 PM (4 months, 24 days ago)

In speaking about it though, how else but in conceptual language, and what language is better than another in talking about sublimity for example? Songs, poems, stories, the various scriptural sources, the more the merrier imo.


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    #28455637 - 09/02/23 05:12 AM (4 months, 24 days ago)

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In speaking about it though, how else but in conceptual language, and what language is better than another in talking about sublimity for example? Songs, poems, stories, the various scriptural sources, the more the merrier imo.



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