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Re: Tregar's super easy pan cyan or panaeolus cyanescens or copelandia cyanescens grow log, crown jewel of mushrooms [Re: tregar]
#28496748 - 10/08/23 04:27 PM (3 months, 18 days ago) |
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5) In operation: Humidifier quickly achieved a 98% humidity set to "high range" so turned it down to "low range" via it's dial, timed to be on every 1/2 hour for 1/2 hour, 1/2 hour off. It's cool to view the fog flow all around the tub above the cakes, hovering and moving in a counterclockwise direction across the whole tub.
Placed a drape across the front of bath tub using a thumbtack on either side, and left one far side open an inch to allow air flow, and kept the overhead bathroom vent on all the time, although this does not probably matter, on or off probably no difference. A/C vent in ceiling provides fresh air all day long, and keep the bathroom door closed or cracked an inch, you decide.
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Re: Tregar's super easy pan cyan or panaeolus cyanescens or copelandia cyanescens grow log, crown jewel of mushrooms [Re: tregar] 1
#28497529 - 10/09/23 11:45 AM (3 months, 17 days ago) |
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Let me save you a little headache while we're on the subject. You don't need a flowhood to apply any casing layer, ever, for any reason.
I'll let you figure the rest out on your own.
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Re: Tregar's super easy pan cyan or panaeolus cyanescens or copelandia cyanescens grow log, crown jewel of mushrooms [Re: Stipe-n Cap] 1
#28497680 - 10/09/23 01:50 PM (3 months, 17 days ago) |
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You lose all beneficial microbes by sterilizing too. Which will protect the casing from contamination and possibly form symbiotic relationships with the fungi.
Pasteurization I think is better. And you wiped the inside of the lids with 91% IPA, shit is already unsterile.
Not because you used the worse IPA (though that too) but because sanitation isn't sterile. Also you sprayed with distilled water. Was the bottle sterile?
See what I'm getting at?
I'm sincerely glad your grow is working, but it's growing inspite of flaws in your technique. And would possibly do better with better procedures and a better understanding of why things are being done and what they do and do not accomplish.
Honestly go read some of the poster aboves techs, they're maticulous, and explain why all the meticulous shit. This tek you're posting is needlessly complex and seems to have a lot of dubious techniques.
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Re: Tregar's super easy pan cyan or panaeolus cyanescens or copelandia cyanescens grow log, crown jewel of mushrooms [Re: tree frog]
#28500609 - 10/11/23 07:13 PM (3 months, 15 days ago) |
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I totally agree with you treefrog....if I were to do this over again, I would have definitely used mycobags and an impulse sealer (well worth the cost) to mix the grain with the substrate...then when it's all grown out, simply break open the bag and crumble it into a fresh clean tray in front of flow hood and add the 1/4" sterile casing. So what if it takes an extra week to colonize...
...as I lost a container due to contamination...this would not have happened with the mycobags mix.
I cut around the contamination outside which was centered in one area, and broke up the rest and put it in an outdoor garden container with a 1/2" left over sterile substrate to fend for itself, luckily the humidity is perfect 95% degres outside after a rain, and 76 degrees F. So who knows....
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Re: Tregar's super easy pan cyan or panaeolus cyanescens or copelandia cyanescens grow log, crown jewel of mushrooms [Re: tregar]
#28501014 - 10/11/23 11:01 PM (3 months, 15 days ago) |
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So........ still no shrooms to harvest?
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Re: Tregar's super easy pan cyan or panaeolus cyanescens or copelandia cyanescens grow log, crown jewel of mushrooms [Re: normalperson]
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Re: Tregar's super easy pan cyan or panaeolus cyanescens or copelandia cyanescens grow log, crown jewel of mushrooms [Re: tregar] 1
#28501301 - 10/12/23 07:56 AM (3 months, 15 days ago) |
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5. The lid was removed from each cake pan in front of the flow hood.

6. This is a closeup of one of the cake pans.

If you lost a tray, I would bet on this one. It looks a bit suspect to me for a pan tray, with those yellow parts on top right and random greyish/dark spots on bottom right and upper left part of tray.
What's up with rest of the trays? Any pinning or grow?
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Re: Tregar's super easy pan cyan or panaeolus cyanescens or copelandia cyanescens grow log, crown jewel of mushrooms [Re: the_prodigy]
#28506874 - 10/16/23 01:17 PM (3 months, 10 days ago) |
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Yes the_prodigy, you are correct, that was the tray I had to throw out.
For the tray I threw out due to contamination a week ago, I cut away all the good substrate from around the contamination and first put a layer of wet perlite into a garden container outside, then crumbled the good substrate on top the wet perlite, and added a 1/4" layer of left over sterile casing soil on top...this is all growing outside, I water it daily lightly with a watering can, and the temps and humidity are actually perfect outside except for night when it can dip. This I learned how to do for an outdoor grow from the 1st paragraph of this link: https://www.shroomery.org/8421/Panaeolus-cyanescens-FAQ


1st pic above several days after moving into humidified bathtub (1/2 hour on, 1/2 hour off) the mycelium can be seen tunneling it's way to the top of the casing.
2nd pic pinheads are forming all over the place, closeup of a few of them.
Soon, will be moving the trays into a Martha tent ecosphere that was given to me by a dear friend who is moving to another state into a smaller place, what a surprise, as this will come in real handy, this way the bathroom can be freed up, and the tent will be able to maintain a constant 77 degrees to 80 degrees, however I set it, due to it having a bulb on the bottom which is a regular old infrared, heat emitting bulb for reptiles. It screws into the power source, and sit's under a tray full of lava rocks. A programmable thermostat regulates the bulb for the perfect set temp.
Even currently with a heater in the bathroom set to go off to maintain 80 degrees F, I just can't get the temp to go over 73 degrees F most of the time near the trays, except for the afternoon when it's 76 degrees, at night the temp can fall low to 70 degrees (and the heater is turned off so no fire hazard) and the heating pads I'm getting rid of too.
The martha tent with the reptile lamp at bottom is definitely an innovative alternative to a ceramic/coil space heater which almost always gets too hot and throws a stream of heat, where as with this the lava rocks diffuse it. That is the main function of the lava rocks, kinda like perlite with it's wicking properties.
The monsoon humidifier I have will be put to good use to throw out humidity from the top downwards, still going on every 1/2 hour for 1/2 hour then shutting off for 1/2 hour and repeat like this all day...and there is a 5" fan at bottom to push air, and large holes covered with replaceable large peel and stick micron filter patches to allow air exchange in several places all over tent. A drip tray that sits under the martha collects any excess water running down the tent. A problem noticed with the bathtub is that water likes to collect in tiny pools here and there.
Evaporation is taking place every 1/2 hour when the humidifier is off for 1/2 hour, and this is important as Jakeoncid419 saids below, as it's just not the temp but the evaporation that makes the difference in how good your pin set will be.
Jakeoncid49: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26235096/fpart/1/vc/1
Mary Fairchild: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25248773
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I like high 70s low 80s you can take it up higher though but the warmer your take it the more likely you are to contaminate however they do move faster peeking out in the upper 90s where are you will start hurting your fruits I like 82 Fahrenheit.
Evaporation is what is going to induce pin formation evaporation takes place more at warmer temperatures I found they do best 80 to 82°F but it’s not just the temperature it’s the evaporation that makes the difference in how good your pin set will be.
As mentioned earlier, one mistake I made was not mixing my grown out grain into the substrate in mycobags in front of flow hood, sealing them, and letting them grow out 100% in a sterile environment like the mycobag...I noticed that when I put the trays into the fruiting chamber, they were maybe only about 75% colonized, which is why it's taking so long for the pins to form...as the mycelium needs to first colonize the substrate fully, that way it's not still doing it when you case the trays, as the pins are only going to form once the substrate is fully colonized.
Here's a pic of how I should have poured my shook up grain into the substrate loaded into mycobags: https://www.shroomery.org/8695/Making-Panaeolus-Substrate-Pictorial Then should have sealed it with an impulse sealer in front of flow hood, let it grow out 100%, and then cut open the bag after it's colonized (in about 7 days) and crumble the substrate into the trays (all in front of flow hood), and then allow another week for the substrate to recolonize or recover, then case the trays with 1/4" sterile casing in front of flow hood, spray down casing heavily, put lids which have the 6 x 1/8" breathing holes on tray for 24 hours, then remove lid and move all trays to fruiting chamber.
Spent a good day reading thru all the teks I posted here on post #1 from all the other experienced pan growers to learn all I could: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28108398/page/1
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Re: Tregar's super easy pan cyan or panaeolus cyanescens or copelandia cyanescens grow log, crown jewel of mushrooms [Re: tregar]
#28506965 - 10/16/23 02:24 PM (3 months, 10 days ago) |
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Glad you got pins coming!
And thanks for the links to the marth set ups. I'm planning to grow pan bisporus in my mylar grow tent downstairs. It's not temperature controlled, just an ultrasonic and a good light.
I rotate what I grow down there based on the time of year. So, I won't be trying pans in the tent until late spring or summer. Will probably try some tubs in the meantime so I can clone something and have good genetics for the tent.
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Re: Tregar's super easy pan cyan or panaeolus cyanescens or copelandia cyanescens grow log, crown jewel of mushrooms [Re: tree frog]
#28511393 - 10/20/23 06:35 AM (3 months, 7 days ago) |
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Than you treefrog. Good luck with ur pan bisphorus grow in ur tent downstairs, sounds amazing, please link to it here if u decide in future to share story.
I ended up tossing the rest of the trays this morning as the contamination spread in the fruiting chamber, this is what happens when u don't grow ur substrate out in mycobags and when u don't let the substrate mycelium grow out 100 percent.
I'm starting all over again, gordotek has some obvious flaws to his method. Look forward to using the Martha ecosphere, have it now, and will begin with agar this time. Will put the tent to use by letting the grain jars incubate at optimum temp in the tent.
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Re: Tregar's super easy pan cyan or panaeolus cyanescens or copelandia cyanescens grow log, crown jewel of mushrooms [Re: tregar]
#28517455 - 10/25/23 08:01 AM (3 months, 2 days ago) |
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Sorry I didn't have time to read everything but why the particular mushroom strain? Would this not also work with cubes, subs or other more available mushrooms?
Hi moonyham, this is with the pan cyan grass/dung lovers strain, long considered the crown jewel of mushrooms, slightly harder than cubensis to grow, and the trips are way more visual, very euphoric, very intricate fractal and geometric visuals like acid with saturated tropical colors. Several of my indoor containers contaminated as I did not use mycobags to grow out the substrate...I followed a tek where they were not used, now I know better next time to use them.
More on this variety with 50 trip reports: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28108398/fpart/1/vc/1
Modern research has determined that the pan cyan strain of mushrooms with their HIGH BAEOCYSTIN and related analogues content hit the adrenal receptors with as much force as MESCALINE or DMT, see chart below. Notice how just plain psilocin alone hits the 3 adrenal receptors (responsible for enhanced colors, euphoria, beauty and music enhancement) with lighter activity.

Attached: Structure–Activity Relationships for Psilocybin, Baeocystin, Aeruginascin, and Related Analogues to Produce Pharmacological Effects in Mice, ACS Pharmacol. Transl. Sci. 2022, 5, 11, 1181–1196:
https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acsptsci.2c00177
by Grant C. Glatfelter*, Eline Pottie, John S. Partilla, Alexander M. Sherwood, Kristi Kaylo, Duyen N. K. Pham, Marilyn Naeem, Grant C. Glatfelter*, Eline Pottie, John S. Partilla, Alexander M. Sherwood, Kristi Kaylo, Duyen N. K. Pham, Marilyn Naeem, Vamshikrishna Reddy Sammeta Vamshikrishna Reddy Sammeta, Stacie DeBoer, James A. Golen, Elliott B. Hulley, Christophe P. Stove, Andrew R. Chadeayne, David R. Manke, and Michael H. Baumann. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Outdoor panaeolus cyanescens strain estero grow looks promising:
Of the 5 trays in the indoor grow bathtub, 2 of the containers did not contaminate, so 5 days ago, I took the two good containers outside, used a clean fork to scrape off the top layer of casing, and crumbled up the good substrate into two outdoor garden containers, I threw out what was in the outdoor container before, cleaned the inside of containers out well with a garden hose...
...and then added a 3" layer of wet perlite (for constant humidity) to the very bottom (as I did not have enough before) then crumbled in the good substrate with clean sanitized spoon, added a 1/4" layer of sterile casing to the top, and gave it a good watering with a watering can to soak the contents of the entire container, each day in morning I lightly water the container's top casing layer for around 1 second with a nearby watering can...if it ever gets super dry I'll give it a longer soak.
...to my surprise 5 days later there is pure white mycelium growing thru the casing layer! It's looks as if I was able salvage two of the containers as they are now growing well in the outdoor containers...the weather is perfect, between 73 and 85 during day, kept in shaded area, it rained yesterday with perfect 76 degree weather all day, and humidity varies between medium to high daily.
So it appears as if all is not lost...

What's even more amazing is that when I remember crumbling the substrate into the outdoor containers, only about 50% of the substrate was even grown out before, so somehow, outdoors the rest of the substrate was able to fully colonize in just 5 days, otherwise it would not be currently growing out or "tunneling thru" the casing layer, as this does not normally happen unless the substrate is fully colonized below.
I have lots of outdoor containers of the same color, it's very rewarding to be able to grow outside, and since I live in a state where these naturally grow outside, I will continue to grow like this, it's just plain fun.
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Re: Tregar's super easy pan cyan or panaeolus cyanescens or copelandia cyanescens grow log, crown jewel of mushrooms [Re: tregar]
#28523094 - 10/30/23 07:15 AM (2 months, 28 days ago) |
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I'm not sure the reasoning why but I have had varied success following a similar method to Gordotek where I mix colonized grain spawn with pasteurized substrate. Despite grain spawn jars looking and smelling clean, when things have contaminated, they've either contaminated after casing (trichoderma) or prior to casing (when I would go to case, I could smell bacteria which I assume is set to fail eventually If I smell that). I don't know where the vector of contamination is.
Other times I've been perfectly fine it seems without using the myco bag method(instead I did what you did here and just spawned colonized grain to prepared substrate in front of flow hood) which makes me think its either my grain spawn or possibly substrate not being pasteurized properly when things contaminated but I dont know.
I built a pasteurizer using an 50 quart cooler and I try to get the center of my substrate to around 160 for 2 hours. I let them cool and sit for 2-3 days before I use it usually.
I'm experimenting further around the subject of trays going bacterial. I'm wondering if It may be due to not enough air during colonization period once I mix spawn with substrate. The reason I'm wondering this, is some of my trays that have had very little room left in them between the sub surface and the lid once filled, have mostly gone bacterial so I wonder if it's anaerobic in these particular situations. I've put a few small holes on the lids with a layer of micropore or I've also used the "takeout" trays with no holes and tried to leave the lid loose but I don't think it allows air to flow. So I filled some trays less and tried not to pack the substrate down very much.
I see you have plenty of room between sub surface and your lid tops with air filters on them.
I will try colonizing in mycobags. I've been really perplexed why some trays have contaminated despite the spawn smelling and looking normal, it is disappointing when it happens.
So good to hear from you my dear friend Timestop413, your comments are much appreciated! I picked up a 50 pack of the good unicorn spawn bags with filter patch. I believe that one of the sources of my contamination was early on when I was mixing the grain with the bulk substrate, I remember NOT cleaning the grain jar with rubbing alchohol on outside, and I had touched the outer surface of the jar many times at the same time I mixed the grain with the substrate, introducing a whole load of contaminants into the bulk substrate, a big no no. Like you I look forward to colonizing in mycobags this time, thanks for sharing your grow story, so cool to see you giving this a shot as well.

Started over, doing this the right way, 2nd time is a charm.
1. Under flow hood, for 1/2 half the agar plates, shot 1 cc of estero pan cyan into each plate, visible spores all thru plate, sealed with parafilm. For the other 5 plates, scraped spores from estero spore print into dish using a disposable, sterile scalpels (10 for cheap), all done in front of flow hood.
2. The mushroom ecosphere greenhouse took only 2 hours to assemble, complete dream come true, set the temp you want for inside the greenhouse, and the martha tent does the rest, notice heat source at bottom with lava rocks to diffuse the heat, and fan next to it to act as a convection oven, fresh warm air being sent upwards, fresh air flow is key. Notice polyfil filter discs attached 4" above each shelf, centered on tent, 4 on each side, and 1 on front, 1 on back of tent.
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Re: Tregar's super easy pan cyan or panaeolus cyanescens or copelandia cyanescens grow log, crown jewel of mushrooms [Re: tregar] 1
#28523111 - 10/30/23 07:34 AM (2 months, 28 days ago) |
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Sorry you lost your grow tregar.
I was rooting for you.
I think if you're growing in sterile myco bags this time and inoculate under a flowhood you'll have a lot more success.
I grow a lot of edibles in bags and it's really as simple as sterilize bag, sterilize grain, inoculate bag with sterile spawn in front of hood, seal, check every few days until colonized. Cut open, fruit.
With Pan's you can open the bag and case right in the bag, but the substrate might be a little deep like that. Remember, pasteuirized casing is better than sterile. Someone said they were pasteurizing small amounts of casing in their dehydrator (since it runs at 160 anyway) in ziplock bags if you're looking for a simple tek on that. Maybe the mycobags could be broken up into a few totes if they're too deep.
I think Blue Helix had a lot of cool Pan grows in bags. Maybe someone else can chime in. I'm just getting into Pans. Have two cultures from MS on T1 plates just now that I'm going to play with over the winter.
I'll probably do shoeboxes in my tent. Straw, manure, coir or some mixture of them. Pasteuirize everything. Pseudo-case with coir. Fruit at spawn like Baba Yaga did in a few of his monotub experiments. Goal is to clone a culture that will fruit well with minimal effort. If my first grows suck but I get the clone I want from it, it's a success imo.
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Re: Tregar's super easy pan cyan or panaeolus cyanescens or copelandia cyanescens grow log, crown jewel of mushrooms [Re: tregar]
#28523380 - 10/30/23 12:51 PM (2 months, 27 days ago) |
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It sounds like you need to familiarize yourself with basic cultivation techniques, and stop relying on unreliable sources like Gordo. I said this from the beginning, it has unfortunately ended as I suspected it would.
Check out some of our own subject materials:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22216410
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25925194/vc/1
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26565367
That should help.
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Re: Tregar's super easy pan cyan or panaeolus cyanescens or copelandia cyanescens grow log, crown jewel of mushrooms [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
#28527553 - 11/03/23 07:33 AM (2 months, 24 days ago) |
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I think if you're growing in sterile myco bags this time and inoculate under a flowhood you'll have a lot more success.
Thanks treefrog, exactly what I'll be doing this time.
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It sounds like you need to familiarize yourself with basic cultivation techniques, and stop relying on unreliable sources like Gordo. I said this from the beginning, it has unfortunately ended as I suspected it would.
Check out some of our own subject materials:
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22216410
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25925194/vc/1
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26565367
That should help.
Thank you stipe n cap. I went back and read just about all the links I posted from all the experienced growers on page 1 of the 50 pan cyan experiences thread, esp from Jock and Asura and Blue Helix and Baba yaga. I'll check out all 3 links you posted here too. I'm no longer following the Gordotek method, learned the hard way on 1st grow it's not for me, too unsterile.
5 days later: The 5 agar plates that had spores scraped into them from off an estero pan cyan spore print using a sterile scalpel to scrape them off in front of a flow hood all show wonderful growth, around a 1/2" or more growth of mycelium in a circle surrounds all the spore deposit spots.
The lava rock heater works great without any water put into the rock bin. I found when water is put in it just creates humidity in the tent, not necessary during the agar or grain grow. It can be 50 degrees outside and 65 to 70 degree F in house, and yet the temp controller can be set to 77 degrees F, and the 77 degree F heating is maintained all day and night.
When the agar plates are completely grown out several days from now, will cut several wedges from each plate using sterile disposable scalpel and drop them into a sterile grain jar by removing lid in front of flow hood, and allow the grain to grow out. Have 6 sterile grain jars ready to accept wedges when ready.
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Pan cyans like temps in the 76-80°F range. If I could lock in a temp perfectly, I would have it exactly 77°F at all times. A little fluctuation doesn't seem to hurt, but if temps drop too low, especially before the first flush, it can ruin the entire grow. Drops can even happen in the middle of summer in Texas. This is why I have a heater in my grow room year around.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25987049
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Re: Tregar's super easy pan cyan or panaeolus cyanescens or copelandia cyanescens grow log, crown jewel of mushrooms [Re: tregar]
#28533918 - 11/08/23 08:05 AM (2 months, 18 days ago) |
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(1) I dropped 3 agar wedges into each of the 6 grain jars, and the mycelium 3 days later hopped off the agar and onto the grain, pure white mycelium now growing on the grain. This will be a separate grow along side a grow identical to Asura's below:
(2) I decided to follow Asura's "cultivating panaeolus cyanescens" word for word for the main 2nd grow consisting of two large unicorn mycobags full of substrate/supplemental grain.
I want to compare the two grows side by side. In case one fails, hopefully the other will make it to the end, but I'm hoping both will make it.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25987049
I'm starting with an LC prepared from a single estero pan cyan spore syringe. There are pre-sterilized LC kits all over the web that make this super easy, just inject your syringe into the medium. In just a few days, it is ready to inject into your substrate/grain medium.
I have the following: dried horse manure, millet, vermiculite, straw, spring water, 50 pack of the 0.2 micron spawn bags (specifically Unicorn 3T 8"X5"X19"), and two of the 3 quart pyrex trays.
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This recipe makes about 7 quarts of substrate and is enough to fill two trays. I like 3 quart Pyrex trays. I will fill each tray almost to the top, leaving a little room for casing and I don't care having a little sub left over.
Horse manure 675g Milo (rye or millet) 250g - not prepped in any way Vermiculite 100g Straw 75g Water 1600g
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Re: Tregar's super easy pan cyan or panaeolus cyanescens or copelandia cyanescens grow log, crown jewel of mushrooms [Re: tregar]
#28534080 - 11/08/23 10:16 AM (2 months, 18 days ago) |
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I'm trying something similar with Bisporus.
Dropped wedges off agar straight into small mycobags day before last. It's been really slow on millet and I haven't had much luck with LCs so far.
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Re: Tregar's super easy pan cyan or panaeolus cyanescens or copelandia cyanescens grow log, crown jewel of mushrooms [Re: tree frog]
#28535445 - 11/09/23 10:34 AM (2 months, 17 days ago) |
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I'm trying something similar with Bisporus.
Dropped wedges off agar straight into small mycobags day before last. It's been really slow on millet and I haven't had much luck with LCs so far.
Thanks tree frog for update! I'm preparing the LC next week, have read around 8 days from spore syringe to fully grown out LC liquid, can be tested on agar plate if desired.
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Re: Tregar's super easy pan cyan or panaeolus cyanescens or copelandia cyanescens grow log, crown jewel of mushrooms [Re: tregar] 1
#28544053 - 11/15/23 01:46 PM (2 months, 11 days ago) |
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Op. Didn't read everything yet but I'm also trying to grow pans and have been having problems similar to you I think except I don't have a flow hood. Are you saying that pans are more difficult to grow on pasteurized substrate? I was thinking that my problems must be due to not having cleaned the original culture enough because I grew cubes alongside and those grew fine. I believe I've also seen numerous examples of pans grown on pasteurized substrate on this site. Either way I might try a sterilized substrate and maybe slurry inoculate them once I have some good cultures.
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elasticaltiger
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Re: Tregar's super easy pan cyan or panaeolus cyanescens or copelandia cyanescens grow log, crown jewel of mushrooms [Re: Reishiman] 2
#28544098 - 11/15/23 02:26 PM (2 months, 11 days ago) |
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Tregar thank you for T/A on page 1.
Prodigy, your sig always makes me grow a big rubbery one.
That is all i have to add.
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