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solarshroomster
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Sharing revelations? I received proof of precognition last night
#28436879 - 08/17/23 08:34 AM (5 months, 8 days ago) |
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I'm confused. Am I allowed to share revelations openly? Is it a good idea?
I received proof of precognition last night and want to share if it's a good idea. Things I was thinking about in trance were then suddenly materialized in the "physical plane" in front of me moments later.
This stuff was not supposed to happen in my worldview.
I know it's technically not proof, but it's pretty darn close.
-------------------- Chopin in Eternal Sonata: "I believe that I am somehow being tested. That I am on this journey to come to some realization. And in order to do so, I think I’m supposed to live my life to the fullest, even if it is in this muddled world of dream and reality."
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Re: Sharing revelations? I received proof of precognition last night [Re: solarshroomster]
#28436981 - 08/17/23 10:03 AM (5 months, 8 days ago) |
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Do you mean is there more of a spiritual law that they should not be shared? Some have said it, just keep it to yourself. That aside it also depends on your tolerance and willingness. Remember the 'social base of perception' may cave it in the wake which can be disorienting, self-gaslighting, ... It seems the ego can hate that stuff. Also the ego can run with it.
I think it should be fine to share such things with the understanding that we all have "the same inheritance." Of course, that understanding does not abound.
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solarshroomster
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Re: Sharing revelations? I received proof of precognition last night [Re: syncro]
#28437070 - 08/17/23 11:46 AM (5 months, 8 days ago) |
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syncro said: Do you mean is there more of a spiritual law that they should not be shared? Some have said it, just keep it to yourself. That aside it also depends on your tolerance and willingness. Remember the 'social base of perception' may cave it in the wake which can be disorienting, self-gaslighting, ... It seems the ego can hate that stuff. Also the ego can run with it.
I think it should be fine to share such things with the understanding that we all have "the same inheritance." Of course, that understanding does not abound.
Okay, that was in and of itself a synchronicity, so I'm going to proceed forward, take a gamble, and share here my revelation. Because you see... Carlos Castenada will feature into this post a little bit later on...
First, an embarrassing admission is in order here. I have OCD, obsessive-compulsive disorder, which is known as the "doubting disorder". Meaning, I constantly doubt things I'm shown over and over again are "real". Classic example would be closing a door and not being "convinced" it was closed and then asking for reassurance that it is, in fact, closed.
To explain, this is why I keep asking over and over again if I'm experiencing what I am experiencing with these mystical visions. I literally cannot believe my mind! I can't believe this is possible! I exclaim into my apartment room.
So, and I have time stamps of this at this point:
Last night, at 11.48pm, I wrote on here: "I can confirm this happened again. Okay, I'm done seeking reassurance." I was referring specifically to the fact that I had another mystical experience again on two bowls of THC 19%, receiving the exact same revelation about existence (it's ineffable, so I can't describe it)... this stuff is like clockwork for me now, it happens in ever single instance. And yet, much like the closing of the door thing, I keep doubting its existence repeatedly and then proceed to seek reassurance from others. In fact, that entire thread "Is this a normal reaction on weed?" is my effectively seeking reassurance that I'm actually having the experiences that I'm having that seems to be indescribable. I keep doubting what keeps happening. I keep looking for definitive proof.
I then went to the Spiritual Quotes forum, and the first quotation I read (see timestamp in my posts on 12.33am:
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""He said he was tired of my acting as an ultimately important being that has to be given proof over and over that the world is unknown and marvelous."
That's PRECISELY what I'm doing here. I keep seeking "proof" "over and over" when the world is fundamentally "unknown" and "marvelous". The mere fact that it is "unknown" and ineffable seems to be the very thing I keep seeking proof "over and over for. In reality, the world's unknowness prevents me from establishing definitive proof.
So, in other words, this synchronicity precisely spoke to me in a way that no other words could have ordinarily done.
At 11:55, I posted:
Impossible to really describe, but I just get the sense that the universe makes sense on entheogens.
Hard to explain, but it feels like everything is reconciled allegorically.
I don't know how I so missed "this".
In other words, I'm talking about the words don't literally describe the experience but that it's reconciled allegorically. Tough to explain, and it will require an entirely separate thread to get into the details of it, but suffice to say that there is meaning that is contained through literal words, and then there is a secondary meaning that is read "between the lines" that goes over and above the original reason. This requires a psychical mind to perceive, which is what I meant when I posted 3 minutes later that:
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I feel like I finally get why people say the things they do, in particular. Like, there's a psychical reason behind it.
Putting aside jackstraw's trippy comment that: "Lol yeah free will is an illusion, everything is just a big math equation solving itself and it's pointless to stress about your direction as long as you keep smiling and breathing and looking for beauty"...
So, then, I was like, this is really trippy. The words materialized in front of me in a way that explained my situation perfectly. Everything just "made sense" at that moment. I can't even get to describe the ineffable aspects of this experience, but, yeah, generally speaking -- everything I thought kept getting confirmed by material happenings in the "physical plane". This quote was precisely talking about me.
"I can't believe that this is possible!" I exclaimed over and over again in my room, thinking about the idea of how the world is fundamentally unknowable.
I then Googled the quotation to see where it came from, and it says this came from Carlos Castanedo:
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In a matter of minutes I began to feel an exquisite warmth and a sense of supreme well-being. It was a sense of physical comfort, a sensation of being suspended in mid-air. I could fully agree with don Juan's statement that the "bed of strings" would keep me floating. I commented on the unbelievable quality of my sensory experience. Don Juan said in a factual tone that the "bed" was made for that purpose.
"I can't believe that this is possible!" I exclaimed. Don Juan took my statement literally and scolded me. He said he was tired of my acting as an ultimately important being that has to be given proof over and over that the world is unknown and marvelous.
I tried to explain that a rhetorical exclamation had no significance. He retorted that if that were so I could have chosen another statement. It seemed that he was seriously annoyed with me. I sat up halfway and began to apologize, but he laughed and, imitating my manner of speaking, suggested a series of hilarious rhetorical exclamations I could have used instead. I ended up laughing at the calculated absurdity of some of his proposed alternatives. He giggled and in a soft tone reminded me that I should abandon myself to the sensation of floating.
The soothing feeling of peace and plenitude that I experienced in that mysterious place aroused some deeply buried emotions in me. I began to talk about my life. I confessed that I had never respected or liked anybody, not even myself, and that I had always felt I was inherently evil, and thus my attitude towards others was always veiled with a certain bravado and daring.
"True," don Juan said. "You don't like yourself at all." He cackled and told me that he had been "seeing" while I talked. His recommendation was that I should not have remorse for anything I had done, because to isolate one's acts as being mean, or ugly, or evil was to place an unwarranted importance on the self.
This literally is precisely the same thing I was saying in my room before I read it. I can't believe this is possible! And note how:
Don Juan took my statement literally and scolded me.
This is speaking specifically how we can take statements either literally or allegorically. There is a secondary meaning that is meant.
Also, the day before, I texted my family that I was having sensations that I was floating in my bed. My texts to my family members reads the day before this experience:
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"Now I remember that when I smoke two times a week, I get this amazing feeling when I wake up from sleep, like I'm floating. It's pure ecstasy. I feel bathed in God's light and everything "makes sense" again. It's brief and quickly goes, but I'm grateful for the moments". Holy cow, holy cow, this stuff is real"
So, Castanedo, is speaking, again, precisely about my experience. I am the guy exclaiming "I can't believe this is possible!" and learning from my teacher that, despite, receiving "over and over" again that the world is "unknown" and "marvelous", I still seek reassurance for it (and still continue to!) I am the guy with the floating sensation in my bed that Castanedo is speaking about. And now, syncro, specifically refers to a reference to Castanedo in my email (unknown to him) about Castanedo: 'social base of perception", which also comes from Castanedo. The synchronicities continue!!!!!
There's several other precognitive synchronicities that follow in that paragraphs relating to thoughts I was thinking before I read it literally on the computer, but it's a little personal, so I'm going to avoid getting into details for now.
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My theory is that I precognitively visualized these things in the future, and then they materialized in front of me, but there's other interpretations. It could be just a synchronicity across asynchronous time, I don't know. But, either way, no matter what your interpretation is, this entire thing RINGS with meaning. I've never felt like things made "so much sense" before! And, that to me, is the real mystery... why do things all of the sudden just "make sense". It just feels like the world is made out of patterns.
-------------------- Chopin in Eternal Sonata: "I believe that I am somehow being tested. That I am on this journey to come to some realization. And in order to do so, I think I’m supposed to live my life to the fullest, even if it is in this muddled world of dream and reality."
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Re: Sharing revelations? I received proof of precognition last night [Re: solarshroomster]
#28437916 - 08/18/23 07:30 AM (5 months, 8 days ago) |
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Back to that integration, or entering the stream, things come into agreement. Somehow dukkha, suffering or dissatisfaction is suspended, confused or conflicting purpose, disharmony in the body.
I do a thing with one-liners that give the essence and connect. Like Brendan was hitting it last night, and I'm saying, just let that stick on the inside of my forehead!
Like this, "When you can sense that you understand where things belong.. and they go there.. Moksha!" It's like that haiku, frog, pond, plop!
But in a day or two, no matter how good was the line, it no longer connects as it did, the concept to its transcendence. It also does not help in this context, being forgetful. So how do we keep that between the line meaning when the lines fade?
When the lines fade. There is a teaching in the question. Notice the freedom in when the lines fade. It goes to just the suchness. Suchness is phenomena without concept.
Now how can I remember? I'll make a list. 
The words don't really stick. Then to me it is about bodies or contexts. Change or realize the ephemeral nature of the realm, the field.
On a gaming server, someone has the tag, something like, You are Not an Air Fryer. To me it is a challenge to the idea of having esoteric means to purify the subtle bodies with the elements of air and fire. Again this is in the concept of bhuta shuddhi.
Edited by syncro (08/18/23 07:54 AM)
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Re: Sharing revelations? I received proof of precognition last night [Re: solarshroomster]
#28439611 - 08/19/23 05:32 PM (5 months, 6 days ago) |
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solarshroomster said: I'm confused. Am I allowed to share revelations openly? Is it a good idea?
It will usually, only be uplifting to people who already believe that way.  
Consider it a litmus test.
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Re: Sharing revelations? I received proof of precognition last night [Re: durian_2008]
#28439619 - 08/19/23 05:42 PM (5 months, 6 days ago) |
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First, an embarrassing admission is in order here. I have OCD, obsessive-compulsive disorder, which is known as the "doubting disorder". Meaning, I constantly doubt things I'm shown over and over again are "real". Classic example would be closing a door and not being "convinced" it was closed and then asking for reassurance that it is, in fact, closed.
My unqaulified opinion, as a semi-anonymous persona on the internet, is that dissociative tendencies exist on a scale of severity.
People who question and test the nature of their reality are probably treading the fine line between insanity and genius.
There is saying, that necessity is the mother of invention, but I believe that innovation comes from finding the exception to some longstanding rule of consensus reality, which I like to doubt, sometimes.
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