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eric_the_red


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my spores have been illegally confiscated/stolen!!!!
#2843710 - 06/30/04 01:31 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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today, i became aware that all of my mushroom spores (syringes & prints) were confiscated about a month ago. i thought i had just lost them or packed them in the wrong box during a move. i was moving out of an apartment at the end of may and one of the office people had come by to check out the place while i was not home. she saw spores (psilocybe & other) in the fridge, so she called the police. the drug task force came to the apartment and confiscated all of my spores. i was not aware of any of this until today. apparently, they told the apt. office people that i would be arrested if i tried to recover the spores, so i'm not going up to the police station until i know which laws protect me and entitle me to have my legal possessions returned. spores are legal in arkansas and i did not even plan to cultivate the spores. i turned my focus to edible & medicinal mushrooms a good while back. i can honestly say that i had no intention of using the spores illegaly; they were to be given away to shroomery members (sorry guys, looks like that's not going to happen now).
can anybody help me out here? i need to know all the relevant laws that apply to this situation and how to proceed. this infuriates me; it's been almost two hours since i heard the news and i can still feel my pulse in my elbow. i want to press this issue as far as legally possible and give drug task force all the trouble they deserve.
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Re: my spores have been illegally confiscated/stolen!!!! [Re: eric_the_red]
#2843721 - 06/30/04 01:35 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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Fucking bastards. I think they should be shot.
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Re: my spores have been illegally confiscated/stolen!!!! [Re: eric_the_red]
#2843740 - 06/30/04 01:40 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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March up there and get your spores boy, and then take them back over there and wave them in somebody's face.
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Re: my spores have been illegally confiscated/stolen!!!! [Re: eric_the_red]
#2843749 - 06/30/04 01:43 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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Your first move is to get the hell out of Arkansas....................
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Re: my spores have been illegally confiscated/stolen!!!! [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#2843780 - 06/30/04 01:50 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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Baby_Hitler said: wave them in somebody's face.
i'm thinking more along different lines here. i'm envisioning a row of drug force cops with emptied spore syringes hanging from their eyes. believe me, i want to march up there and get my spores back, but i don't want to be arrested and put in jail today. even though it would be a wrongful arrest and i would be let go eventually, i don't want to have to deal with that. i shouldn't even be having to waste my time with this b.s.
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Re: my spores have been illegally confiscated/stolen!!!! [Re: eric_the_red]
#2843787 - 06/30/04 01:53 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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How much spores are we talking about here?
More than one print?
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Re: my spores have been illegally confiscated/stolen!!!! [Re: eric_the_red]
#2843800 - 06/30/04 01:57 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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spores are legal, the police cannot hold them unless they are to be used as evidence against you, in order to do that they need some proof that you are infact cultivating an illegal substance...
my advice is to talk with a lawyer, and think about filing suit against the apt. complex, and aquiring a court order to have the spores returned, especialy if there are edible cultures in the mix...
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Re: my spores have been illegally confiscated/stolen!!!! [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#2843802 - 06/30/04 01:58 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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yes. i'm not even sure how much they took. i know they have at least 8 spore syringes & a few non-psilocybe prints. i'm fairly sure they also stole my reishi, maitake, and enoki cultures on agar because they are also missing and those always stay in the fridge, so i don't see how i could have lost them.
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Re: my spores have been illegally confiscated/stolen!!!! [Re: eric_the_red]
#2843804 - 06/30/04 01:59 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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Just let it ride Eric...you can allways get more Dude Remember you have a lot of good friends here that will gladly help you replace what you have lost. I know it pisses you off but thats my advice because they can arrest you and even after getting a innocent charge you will still have to get it removed $$ by another lawyer
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Re: my spores have been illegally confiscated/stolen!!!! [Re: OldSpice]
#2843817 - 06/30/04 02:02 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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i'm not worried about loss of spores/cultures. i know i can easily get more and rebuild my stock quickly. i am pissed off at the fact that cops fuck people over like this and think they can get away with it. what they have done is illegal. what i have done with those particular spores is not illegal.
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Re: my spores have been illegally confiscated/stolen!!!! [Re: eric_the_red]
#2843850 - 06/30/04 02:09 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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and think they can get away with it
Unfortunately it appears that they can and do get away with things like this...sometimes on a regular basis
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Re: my spores have been illegally confiscated/stolen!!!! [Re: eric_the_red]
#2843854 - 06/30/04 02:09 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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Don't let it ride. Fight them.
How would you feel if they came in and stole a gold chain from you? This is exactly the same thing as they came in and stole valuables of yours that are completely legal to posses.
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Re: my spores have been illegally confiscated/stolen!!!! [Re: eric_the_red]
#2843948 - 06/30/04 02:44 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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Let me start with IANAL BYNOF ( I Am Not A Lawyer But You Need One Fast)
#1 The "Office person" who was checking out the apt may not have had a LEGAL right to consent to the search or to even be there. They can not enter the apartment with out consent and not with out notification.
#2 The police can not HOLD stuff and arrest you for trying to pick it up!
#3 if there was nothing Illegal there then there was no law broken. They may be under the belief that the syringes contained drugs and not spores.
Call a lawyer. Around here they will talk to you for free. To determine if there is a case or not. They will normally tell you what it will cost you as well. Call around and find one. Make a list of what was taken and the value. Most of the time, for a small fee, the lawyer will go down and serve them with some paper work. They will release the items into his custody and he will return them to you.
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Re: my spores have been illegally confiscated/stolen!!!! [Re: eric_the_red]
#2844147 - 06/30/04 03:45 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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Are you missing any pipes/roaces/weed or anything that is actually illegal? That could end up being a problem.
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Re: my spores have been illegally confiscated/stolen!!!! [Re: eric_the_red]
#2844155 - 06/30/04 03:48 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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How do you know they were removed by a task force? Have you seen proof? Is there a chance apt personel removed them... then gave 'em to the police? How did you find out? There's a few things about this that aren't clear.
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Re: my spores have been illegally confiscated/stolen!!!! [Re: eric_the_red]
#2844327 - 06/30/04 04:56 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
TheHateCamel said: Are you missing any pipes/roaces/weed or anything that is actually illegal? That could end up being a problem.
no, i don't really smoke anymore. this isn't an issue.
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Cervantes said: How do you know they were removed by a task force? Have you seen proof? Is there a chance apt personel removed them... then gave 'em to the police? How did you find out? There's a few things about this that aren't clear.
i have been problems getting my deposit back from the apt. office. today, i went in to discuss the problem. they told me they found "drugs" in my apt. i told them i don't/didn't keep drugs in my apt. the "drugs" turned out to be "hypodermic needles, illegal psilocybe mushroom spores." i explained that psilocybe spores are not illegal (except in ca & ga). the bitch told me i was wrong, that the spores are illegal and that if i wanted to be arrested i need to contact the dtf and ask for my syringes back, because they were the ones that picked them up and they said they would arrest me if i showed up.
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Re: my spores have been illegally confiscated/stolen!!!! [Re: eric_the_red]
#2844348 - 06/30/04 05:02 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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Get a lawyer, sue, its the american dream
Seriously i would be pissed too, and i would fight...
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Re: my spores have been illegally confiscated/stolen!!!! [Re: eric_the_red]
#2844362 - 06/30/04 05:09 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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Your rights have been thrown out the fucking window man. I'd go down to the police station right now and demand my property back, you have not broken any laws....how can they arrest you?
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Re: my spores have been illegally confiscated/stolen!!!! [Re: eric_the_red]
#2844430 - 06/30/04 05:33 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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since you say there is no intention of cultivating the magic spores, then your case seems like it would hold up well, and you could probably make off with some cash from the landlord, as well as a decent settlement with the city, if you choose to go that route.
Personally, I would look into getting the lady that went through your things fucked first, she is the one that caused it all, broke the law, and called in a false police report, due to her own ignorance.
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Re: my spores have been illegally confiscated/stolen!!!! [Re: kotik]
#2844443 - 06/30/04 05:37 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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Definately! You have a case, so take some of the drug warriors money away for them and buy yourself a nice growroom!!
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Re: my spores have been illegally confiscated/stolen!!!! [Re: Lightningfractal]
#2844570 - 06/30/04 06:02 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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So you don't have proof the cops became involved... yet. Just the word of the people who will not return your deposit? This seems very fishy. You should definately look into it.
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Re: my spores have been illegally confiscated/stolen!!!! [Re: Rose]
#2844672 - 06/30/04 06:31 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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Get her on tape saying she took them and called the cops, then call her "bluff" and get the cops...
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Re: my spores have been illegally confiscated/stolen!!!! [Re: eric_the_red]
#2844923 - 06/30/04 07:59 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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As Cyber said, the apartment people cannot consent to the search. If the apt people called the cops and they came and took your spores, you damn sure better fight them. If you don't have the money for an attourney, you still might be able to get one to take the case pro bono. If not, then call the ACLU. As much as I hate them, some of their causes are still honorable.
As I interpret this, this is most certainly an illegal search and seizure. You didn't consent to the search. They didn't serve you a warrant. They confiscated material without notification. Unfuckingbelievable! 
The fact you had edible cultures and spores with them should certainly strenghthen you case that your intentions weren't illegal.
In this case, the potential for vindication outways the potential for trouble in my opinion. I say fight the fucks.
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Re: my spores have been illegally confiscated/stolen!!!! [Re: HagbardCeline]
#2844988 - 06/30/04 08:16 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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I bet those pigs got their dirty fingers on the spores and contaminated them...
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Re: my spores have been illegally confiscated/stolen!!!! [Re: LoneDeranger]
#2845232 - 06/30/04 09:10 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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LoneDeranger said: I bet those pigs got their dirty fingers on the spores and contaminated them...
I say kill them.
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Re: my spores have been illegally confiscated/stolen!!!! [Re: eric_the_red]
#2845329 - 06/30/04 09:37 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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AGhhh!!! This pisses me off so much. I'd be so fucking enraged if this happened to me.
Fight. Fight those mother fuckers. Find out what's going on.
Keep us posted.
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Re: my spores have been illegally confiscated/stolen!!!! [Re: eric_the_red]
#2845592 - 06/30/04 11:42 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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And I'm not saying you are, but if you are using drugs, stop. If you decide to push this (or maybe even if not) you may required to submitt to drug testing. Prepare for hair and urine.
And for anyone who might need it... (Wash your hair with Aloe Rid by Nexus as many times as possible in the days or weeks leading up to it. And use the hair kits mean to thwart drug testing. I've witnessed two people I advised first hand that both beat their's, and been told by several more. As long as you been clean for a couple of weeks, drinking a shit load of water the day, and prior day, of testing is usually sufficient to appear clean. You can still use the kits for urinalysis if for nothing more than to color your pee-pee. )
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Re: my spores have been illegally confiscated/stolen!!!! [Re: eric_the_red]
#2845689 - 07/01/04 12:16 AM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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Without a doubt fight it, get the ACLU with you if there's a problem. You've done nothing illegal, and to not fight it would be to let the drug warriors get away with an illegal search and seizure. Chances are you can get a good profit from it if you play your cards right also
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Re: my spores have been illegally confiscated/stolen!!!! [Re: eric_the_red]
#2847049 - 07/01/04 10:56 AM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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Perhaps reporting the theft would be a first step? This could get ugly if you push it, but if you were not growing or selling anything illegal, you should be safe. If you were growing legal and can prove it, you will be ever better off. The fact that they took a lot of non-p cultures is a good thing... makes it difficult to show that you were intending to do something illegal. I would talk with a lawyer before I did much of anything, to be honest.
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Re: my spores have been illegally confiscated/stolen!!!! [Re: Seuss]
#2847384 - 07/01/04 12:54 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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Technically it's not theft if his lease was over.
If his lease contract had expired, the owner or manager had the right to do whatever they wanted with that stuff. She could have, and should have just thrown it away.
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Re: my spores have been illegally confiscated/stolen!!!! [Re: eric_the_red]
#2847397 - 07/01/04 12:57 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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Was your lease over or not?
If not I would consider getting a lawyer and charging her with theft.
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Re: my spores have been illegally confiscated/stolen!!!! [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#2847607 - 07/01/04 02:06 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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This pisses me off. For the sake of all of us here burn that bitches house down. That may be a little extreme.
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Re: my spores have been illegally confiscated/stolen!!!! [Re: Seuss]
#2852288 - 07/02/04 05:55 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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actually, i was just thinking earlier today that not letting on i know they took my things and reporting a theft might be the best thing to do. maybe they will feel like asses once they discover that they have my spores.
i do grow legal mushrooms and this is very easy to prove. another guy and i grow most of the mushrooms found in the all the local restaurants and supermarkets. if i can prove that the police did take my gourmet cultures, then i think they will be pretty much fucked. technically, those cultures belong to my business, since i am paid to produce cultures, then spawn for the farm. if i don't have my cultures, i can't produce the spawn.
i am a biology/mycology student and i actually do occasionally view spores on a scope. i can prove that i have multiple legit reasons to own psilocybe spores, not that i should have to since they are 100% legal for anyone to own in this state.
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Re: my spores have been illegally confiscated/stolen!!!! [Re: eric_the_red]
#2852303 - 07/02/04 06:00 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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Did you get your deposit back?
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Re: my spores have been illegally confiscated/stolen!!!! [Re: eric_the_red]
#2852670 - 07/02/04 09:54 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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Before you talk to any pig, make sure you have a talked to a lawyer first!
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Re: my spores have been illegally confiscated/stolen!!!! [Re: eric_the_red]
#2853266 - 07/03/04 03:25 AM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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I just hope there isn't something else that you forgot about they found that you don't know about yet.
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Re: my spores have been illegally confiscated/stolen!!!! [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#2853447 - 07/03/04 06:18 AM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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no, i did not get my deposit back. that is why i went to their office the other day. they had been charging me with all these b.s. charges. when i protested the charge, they removed it and replaced it with a higher charge. they did this three times, so i went up to the office to find out what the deal was. then they said the root reason i wasn't getting my deposit back is because they found my "drugs." there was nothing else in the fridge for me to be forgetting about and the things in the fridge were about all that was left in the apt. as soon as i get a lawyer who will take the case pro bono, i'm going up there.
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Re: my spores have been illegally confiscated/stolen!!!! [Re: eric_the_red]
#2853863 - 07/03/04 11:51 AM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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Should not need pro bono . Should be able to find a lawyer to take on a contengency fee , this is most likely a fraud by the apartment co . In most states renters have some amazing rights becouse of abusive land lords . And since you produce spawn for local legal grown mushrooms those cultures were worth a considerable amount . Get legal counsil might not hurt to look in your state for Lawyer that NORML recommends .
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Re: my spores have been illegally confiscated/stolen!!!! [Re: eric_the_red]
#2859539 - 07/05/04 06:26 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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i bet the cops didnt even, come, the apartment has ur spores hostage
my 2 cents peace
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Re: my spores have been illegally confiscated/stolen!!!! [Re: DieCommie]
#2860259 - 07/05/04 11:36 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
DieCommie said: Get her on tape saying she took them and called the cops, then call her "bluff" and get the cops...
great idea, recordings and video are totally hard evidence
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Re: my spores have been illegally confiscated/stolen!!!! [Re: hairs]
#2860636 - 07/06/04 02:52 AM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah, great idea. Except in some states a recording of a conversation made without the consent of both parties is a felony.
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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Re: my spores have been illegally confiscated/stolen!!!! [Re: eric_the_red]
#2861090 - 07/06/04 09:39 AM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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A lot of lawyers will not charge you to hear your story.
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Re: my spores have been illegally confiscated/stolen!!!! [Re: YidakiMan]
#2861944 - 07/06/04 03:53 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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Get a lawyer first thing.
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Re: my spores have been illegally confiscated/stolen!!!! [Re: Worf]
#2862167 - 07/06/04 05:12 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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Cyber said: They can not enter the apartment with out consent and not with out notification.
That's not nessarly true. Some leases state that the owner of the complex can enter your apartment at anytime without your consent, I just had to sign though the owner is cool so even if he did find that stuff he wouldn't care as long as you pay the rent, and there's no security deposit for him to withhold like they are doing to eric so he'd really have no reason to piss off the tenants. If the lease stated that and especially if syringes "that can be used on humans" are illegal in arkansas then there's not much to be done. Also if there happened to be any mycellium in any of the syringes they can fuck you
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Re: my spores have been illegally confiscated/stolen!!!! [Re: John]
#2862188 - 07/06/04 05:18 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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As a landlord I can tell you that entering an apartment in MOST states requires 24 hour notice, in writing, for non-emergency situations.
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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Re: my spores have been illegally confiscated/stolen!!!! [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#2862229 - 07/06/04 05:29 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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yeah i'm a fuckin moron actually, i read it wrong, it dosn't say about writing or 24 hrs though, sorry edit-(sorry for me being an idiot not that it dosn't mention 24hr or writing)
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THE LANDLORDS RIGHTS: The landlord, (name), reserves the right to end this contract at anytime providing proper justification (such as but not limited to, conduct of illegal activitys and improper behaviour. He also reserves the power to deny access to any part and/or thing of this condominium under proper justifaction. In addition, the landlord reserves the right to inspect any room at anytime with the knowledge of the resident of such room
I've alrays read that as without for some reason...
Edited by John (07/06/04 05:31 PM)
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Re: my spores have been illegally confiscated/stolen!!!! [Re: John]
#2862248 - 07/06/04 05:34 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'd check with Legal Aid or your lawyer and see if notice in advance and in writing is required.
If so, that portion of the contract may not be enforceable.
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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Re: my spores have been illegally confiscated/stolen!!!! [Re: eric_the_red]
#2873554 - 07/09/04 03:21 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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update: i contacted the drug task force. they said that they never entered my apt. so, i called up my landlord's office. they say the dtf did enter the apt. and took my belongings on june 23rd. today, i called the dtf back and demanded that my belongings be returned to me. they said they will get back to me.
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Re: my spores have been illegally confiscated/stolen!!!! [Re: eric_the_red]
#2873737 - 07/09/04 04:27 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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ok, the dtf called me pretty much right after my last post. they said that not only did they not go to my apt to pick up those spores, but they have never been to my apt for any reason. i called the apt. office and told them what the police said. the bitch i have been talking to reaffirmed that the police did pick up my spores, but changed the story some. she had previously been saying that the police, "the drug task force," picked up my spores at the apt. now she says that it was two regular, uniformed officers and they picked up the spores at the office. i called the police back and they said that didn't happen either. looks like the police may be off the hook on this one, but now i need to hire a very butch lesbian to kick this bitch's ass.
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Re: my spores have been illegally confiscated/stolen!!!! [Re: eric_the_red]
#2873765 - 07/09/04 04:38 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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Since the police deny responsibility, file a theft report.
If there is no action in a few days call the state police.
If there is no action then call the county attorney's office.
If still no action call the state attorney general.
Your landlord has no right to remove anything not harmful or in violation of your lease from your apartment.
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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Re: my spores have been illegally confiscated/stolen!!!! [Re: eric_the_red]
#2875367 - 07/10/04 04:40 AM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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yea, for the sake of the freedom of every american, and us mushroom taking americans especialy. Make sure whoever is responsible for this goes down.
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Re: my spores have been illegally confiscated/stolen!!!! [Re: eric_the_red]
#2875372 - 07/10/04 04:44 AM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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hmm that sucks, let me know if you are in need for new spores.
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Re: my spores have been illegally confiscated/stolen!!!! [Re: eric_the_red]
#2885988 - 07/13/04 12:18 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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told u the pigs had nutin to do with it, u better take that landlord to court, she's probly thrown ur shit away by now, but justice needs to b served.
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Re: my spores have been illegally confiscated/stolen!!!! [Re: eric_the_red]
#2889010 - 07/14/04 09:44 AM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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eric_the_red said: ok, the dtf called me pretty much right after my last post. they said that not only did they not go to my apt to pick up those spores, but they have never been to my apt for any reason.
i called the apt. office and told them what the police said. the bitch i have been talking to reaffirmed that the police did pick up my spores, but changed the story some. she had previously been saying that the police, "the drug task force," picked up my spores at the apt. now she says that it was two regular, uniformed officers and they picked up the spores at the office. 
i called the police back and they said that didn't happen either.
looks like the police may be off the hook on this one, but now i need to hire a very butch lesbian to kick this bitch's ass.
Once again IANAL!
I would be done playing with the and send her a certified letter like this (I assume you are in Arkansas)
Dear Sir,
You are hear by notified that removal of my property at address __________________ Apt:____ was a theft under Arkansas state law 5-36-103 which states.
(a) A person commits theft of property if he or she: (1) Knowingly takes or exercises unauthorized control over, or makes an unauthorized transfer of an interest in, the property of another person, with the purpose of depriving the owner thereof; or (2) Knowingly obtains the property of another person, by deception or by threat, with the purpose of depriving the owner thereof.
I have appraised the value of this property to be in excess of $2500 and as such it falls under section b 1 of the penalty listing of the law. You should note that the law lists for sever criminal penalties for such a theft as it is a Class B felony. Under Arkansas state law 5-38-203 Criminal mischief in the first degree you will find the following
(a) A person commits the offense of criminal mischief in the first degree if he purposely and without legal justification destroys or causes damage to: (1) Any property of another Criminal mischief in the first degree is a Class C felony if the amount of actual damage is five hundred dollars ($500) or more.
Also note that your entrance into my properly was illegal under 5-39-201. Residential burglary which states
(a)(1) A person commits residential burglary if he enters or remains unlawfully in a residential occupiable structure of another person with the purpose of committing therein any offense punishable by imprisonment. (2) Residential burglary is a Class B felony.
Should this property not me returned to me undamaged, I will use all leagal means necessary to reclame my property and any damages.
You have 24 hours from recite of this letter to return my property or I will be forced to file charges with the local police.
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Re: my spores have been illegally confiscated/stolen!!!! [Re: eric_the_red]
#2889077 - 07/14/04 10:12 AM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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Was your lease still active, or had it expired?
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Re: my spores have been illegally confiscated/stolen!!!! [Re: eric_the_red]
#2889092 - 07/14/04 10:17 AM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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kick'em square in the gonads
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Re: my spores have been illegally confiscated/stolen!!!! [Re: mycopsycho]
#2908861 - 07/20/04 02:34 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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after much wasted time on the phone and fingers being pointed back and forth between the apt. office and the police:
the police had and destroyed my spores/cultures. the spores/cultures were given to two officers by the property manager.
i can't hold the police too responsible for this one, but that didn't stop me from lecturing, scolding, and humiliating them. they apologized and the head of the drug task force even broke down and said "i'm just a cop. i can't be right every time. they don't teach us this stuff. i'm not a lawyer and i'm far from ever being any kind of scientist." i told him he should not be allowed to hold any position of authority. i feel that i'm even with them for the time being. the apt. people are another matter though.
the apt. office is the root of this problem. they will be dealt with.


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Re: my spores have been illegally confiscated/stolen!!!! [Re: eric_the_red]
#2908941 - 07/20/04 02:51 PM (19 years, 9 months ago) |
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Let 'em off for 6 months free rent.
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