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I just feel like the universe makes sense on entheogens
    #28436561 - 08/16/23 09:55 PM (5 months, 9 days ago)

Impossible to really describe, but I just get the sense that the universe makes sense on entheogens.

Hard to explain, but it feels like everything is reconciled allegorically.

I don't know how I so missed "this".


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Re: I just feel like the universe makes sense on entheogens [Re: solarshroomster]
    #28436565 - 08/16/23 09:58 PM (5 months, 9 days ago)

I feel like I finally get why people say the things they do, in particular. Like, there's a psychical reason behind it.


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Re: I just feel like the universe makes sense on entheogens [Re: solarshroomster] * 1
    #28436576 - 08/16/23 10:05 PM (5 months, 9 days ago)

Lol yeah free will is an illusion, everything is just a big math equation solving itself and it's pointless to stress about your direction as long as you keep smiling and breathing and looking for beauty


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Re: I just feel like the universe makes sense on entheogens [Re: jack_straw2208]
    #28436580 - 08/16/23 10:08 PM (5 months, 9 days ago)

Quote:

jack_straw2208 said:
Lol yeah free will is an illusion, everything is just a big math equation solving itself and it's pointless to stress about your direction as long as you keep smiling and breathing and looking for beauty




Fuck yeah!


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Re: I just feel like the universe makes sense on entheogens [Re: solarshroomster]
    #28436596 - 08/16/23 10:33 PM (5 months, 9 days ago)

"He said he was tired of my acting as an ultimately important being that has to be given proof over and over that the world is unknown and
marvelous."

I don't get it. How do you deal with spiritual awakening?

Retort and retorter.


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Re: I just feel like the universe makes sense on entheogens [Re: solarshroomster]
    #28437130 - 08/17/23 12:49 PM (5 months, 8 days ago)

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solarshroomster said:

I don't get it. How do you deal with spiritual awakening?






"Looking for clues at the scene of the crime..."- suits my reference point: Apparently a very old crime in which the cast of characters still exists.


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Re: I just feel like the universe makes sense on entheogens [Re: solarshroomster]
    #28437152 - 08/17/23 01:02 PM (5 months, 8 days ago)

"How do you deal with spiritual awakening?" to me can be the same question as, "Why does the mystical world hide itself?" both of which may be inverting the question in a sense. The mystical world does not hide itself, but the cause by which we hide it from ourselves is hidden. Just like, spiritual awakening needs no 'dealing with' as it is the wonder and awe - the question being, how do you deal with coming back to normal waking reality? Or, how do you deal with the self's identification with bodies?

Nit-picking perhaps, but to me some potential clarification.


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Re: I just feel like the universe makes sense on entheogens [Re: syncro] * 2
    #28437641 - 08/17/23 09:29 PM (5 months, 8 days ago)

When you can sense that you understand where things belong.. and they go there..

Moksha!


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Re: I just feel like the universe makes sense on entheogens [Re: BrendanFlock] * 2
    #28437921 - 08/18/23 07:35 AM (5 months, 8 days ago)

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How do you deal with spiritual awakening?




Acceptance/Surrender:thumbup:


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Re: I just feel like the universe makes sense on entheogens [Re: FishOilTheKid] * 1
    #28438012 - 08/18/23 09:26 AM (5 months, 7 days ago)

Entheogens, thnx! :cheers:



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Re: I just feel like the universe makes sense on entheogens [Re: The Blind Ass] * 1
    #28438042 - 08/18/23 10:01 AM (5 months, 7 days ago)

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Entheogens, thnx! :cheers:






Damn, good song. Thank you.

For showing me, I'm not alone.


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Re: I just feel like the universe makes sense on entheogens [Re: solarshroomster]
    #28438052 - 08/18/23 10:12 AM (5 months, 7 days ago)

:manofapproval::yess:

:yinyangtrip:


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Re: I just feel like the universe makes sense on entheogens [Re: syncro]
    #28438312 - 08/18/23 03:17 PM (5 months, 7 days ago)

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syncro said:
"How do you deal with spiritual awakening?" to me can be the same question as, "Why does the mystical world hide itself?" both of which may be inverting the question in a sense. The mystical world does not hide itself, but the cause by which we hide it from ourselves is hidden. Just like, spiritual awakening needs no 'dealing with' as it is the wonder and awe - the question being, how do you deal with coming back to normal waking reality? Or, how do you deal with the self's identification with bodies?

Nit-picking perhaps, but to me some potential clarification.




Wow! This is incredible.


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Re: I just feel like the universe makes sense on entheogens [Re: solarshroomster]
    #28438563 - 08/18/23 07:32 PM (5 months, 7 days ago)

"feels like" creating worlds.

frog. pond. plop!


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Edited by solarshroomster (08/18/23 07:33 PM)


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Re: I just feel like the universe makes sense on entheogens [Re: solarshroomster]
    #28438582 - 08/18/23 07:55 PM (5 months, 7 days ago)

"hallucinations" are (like) not what I thought. You're really "there".


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Edited by solarshroomster (08/18/23 09:21 PM)


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Re: I just feel like the universe makes sense on entheogens [Re: solarshroomster] * 1
    #28438719 - 08/18/23 10:07 PM (5 months, 7 days ago)

I was watching some talks by a teacher, Igor Kufayev, around entheogens, and tantric views.

To include some final comments he said: "Make whatever you will of all this, and do not fear. That's the whole point. Do not fear. Nothing can touch or affect you. The knowledge of that has to be firmly, firmly rooted. You have to be rooted in that understanding.

... only you can contemplate, whether you find answers or not, you need to be rooted in that understanding, of the utter eternity of who you are, that you cannot be touched, by any of this, whilst at the very same time, it is only in you that the destiny of all this what's happening is decided. This is the greatest of the paradoxical nature of that relationship. That's what it means to walk the path of the heart."

What does it mean, to me? Trust in you.


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Re: I just feel like the universe makes sense on entheogens [Re: syncro]
    #28439016 - 08/19/23 08:38 AM (5 months, 6 days ago)

I wrote this yesterday but had not posted.

Re: the body
Well, I thought it kind of a drag, but what to do with the body is an issue having reluctance. I want to fly etc., to be sovereign, or at least that is said.

I was watching a talk around entheogens and mentioned was great aid to cellular memory. I took that whatever we do, being in the meditations or trips, works to agitate that social base of perception.

On another topic by that same teacher, Igor Kufayev, in tantric perspective, said all we are in is the energy of the Earth, and Eros is one with it (correction, I misunderstood with his accent, he was only saying eros here, and not earth), and is everything. All of it is erotic, in an inclusive sense. This is seen regardless of the path.

I took again that remembering love of the earth which can be confused in the transcendent perspectives as something of which to rid ourselves, earth densities, attachment and such, but lack of love or attention is exactly the problem with our perceptions of earth and body.

For me it went to any exercise or contemplation we do for meditation or bodily purification is one and the same, eros, consciousness, love for the absolute, the earth and even the body in an awakened perspective. It added dimension to practice, inclusion.

That said, I refer back as I've mentioned that there are specific practices to, as all of them must, purify the bodies. The senses in their source reflective qualities, are free. The bodies, mind, are not held to this perception.

I may be over emphasizing as well, the methods of bodily purification in the elements, as they are only in preparation, though considered a key necessity. Just a simple sincere exercise like mindfulness works to do it anyway, I believe, perhaps by adding for the purpose a bit of extra time with the intention in whatever practice.

I'm not a practicing tripper, but have in the past, and I think something of this may be useful as a preparing intention there as well. In other words, in every juncture, from waking to sleep, sleep to waking, driving, eating, and especially for the spiritual or altered adventures, contemplate an intention, a prayer, mantra, meditation, saying or being it.


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Re: I just feel like the universe makes sense on entheogens [Re: syncro]
    #28439019 - 08/19/23 08:46 AM (5 months, 6 days ago)

"All of it is erotic, in an inclusive sense"


And how we may underplay the role of friction in eroticism.


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Re: I just feel like the universe makes sense on entheogens [Re: syncro]
    #28439031 - 08/19/23 09:05 AM (5 months, 6 days ago)

One thing he mentioned about entheogens, the phenomena of one doing in this case mostly ayahuasca, where something he called immersion occurs, and after, the person said they no longer need to do ayahuasca as it, the immersion, is in him always. This would follow as Kufayev I think is a tantric yogi at the core. No judgement. I may have some bias but I'm not one to talk on chemical dependence which doesn't even apply to psychs but for perhaps that psych dependability.

I guess he has a little more bias than I thought in his talk around reproducibility in attempts at measured testing, meditation vs tripping, but he was way into them, some connection with Leary and extensive experimentation.

He said some profound stuff around eros and tantra. I thought I had another thing there not remembering. processing ... here it is.

He reverses the idea of restriction, that typical fixation is the restriction on the wholeness of what eros is.


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Re: I just feel like the universe makes sense on entheogens [Re: syncro]
    #28439036 - 08/19/23 09:10 AM (5 months, 6 days ago)

The wholeness of eros:

A higher love with a brain massage.


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