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looks like justice thomas had 3 other billionaire benefactors
    #28435913 - 08/16/23 10:06 AM (5 months, 9 days ago)

propublica reporting that there were 3 other doners to justice thomas' extravigant lifestyle...


David Sokol, a former top executive at Berkshire Hathaway

H. Wayne Huizenga, a billionaire who turned Blockbuster and Waste Management into national goliaths.

Paul “Tony” Novelly an oil billionaire.

gifts included travel, club access, and other luxury items and experiences.


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Re: looks like justice thomas had 3 other billionaire benefactors [Re: rxb]
    #28437308 - 08/17/23 03:41 PM (5 months, 8 days ago)

Sounds good for the American people!  /s


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Re: looks like justice thomas had 3 other billionaire benefactors [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
    #28437555 - 08/17/23 07:59 PM (5 months, 8 days ago)

If he was actually doing something wrong our checks and balances would take care of it.


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Re: looks like justice thomas had 3 other billionaire benefactors [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #28437581 - 08/17/23 08:20 PM (5 months, 8 days ago)

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If he was actually doing something wrong our checks and balances would take care of it.




i cant speak to your personal definition of right and wrong.

i can say he is eroding the faith of the american people in the supreme court and all power is to the people. now because we are 250ish years into this experiment removing people from power isnt really something we are used to, but the novelty of a system that has worked for 250ish years can wear off and cause riots and rebellions when people count on a justice for protection and find out that people with business before the court were giving millions of dollars worth of gifts (read bribes) to a judge making those rulings it wont sit well.

and since the power is with the people they are not forced to just put up with it forever


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Re: looks like justice thomas had 3 other billionaire benefactors [Re: rxb]
    #28437654 - 08/17/23 09:46 PM (5 months, 8 days ago)

I think we’re a ways off from any sort of breaking point.


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Re: looks like justice thomas had 3 other billionaire benefactors [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #28437887 - 08/18/23 07:06 AM (5 months, 7 days ago)

People can be angry about it, but no one is going to take to the streets over money wrongly put in the pocket of someone else. It takes someone dying, generally, for that to happen.  Occasionally, when enough people have money taken out of their pocket, they'll take to the streets.  I don't see anyone getting up in arms about shit like this, though.

We bombed the fuck out of other nations for decades, and rarely was there an actual protest about it.


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Re: looks like justice thomas had 3 other billionaire benefactors [Re: Enlil] * 1
    #28437927 - 08/18/23 07:38 AM (5 months, 7 days ago)

Iraq War protests were pretty expansive, but yeah, nobody is gonna do anything about corruption (however blatant) until it begins to meaningfully affect their material interests. Americans are far too wealthy and comfortable to give a shit.


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Re: looks like justice thomas had 3 other billionaire benefactors [Re: Enlil]
    #28437933 - 08/18/23 07:48 AM (5 months, 7 days ago)

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People can be angry about it, but no one is going to take to the streets over money wrongly put in the pocket of someone else. It takes someone dying, generally, for that to happen.  Occasionally, when enough people have money taken out of their pocket, they'll take to the streets.  I don't see anyone getting up in arms about shit like this, though.

We bombed the fuck out of other nations for decades, and rarely was there an actual protest about it.




it absurd to me that anyone with any interest in our system of justice whatsoever would be flippant about bribery of a supreme court justice, even if the bribe wasnt accepted. but this has very likely been a factor in the execution of justice. and lives have infact been very effected.

landslide overturning of precedents have happened, reductions of protections have happened and all because someone got to hang out on a big boat.

i dont think THIS will cause a riot, but frankly if it wasnt for other corruption news i think the story would be world changing news.

but because trump is calling black people riggers its page 3.


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Re: looks like justice thomas had 3 other billionaire benefactors [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #28439906 - 08/19/23 09:11 PM (5 months, 6 days ago)

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If he was actually doing something wrong our checks and balances would take care of it.




i think congress should have acted already, to impose ethics standards on the court as well as restrict the way they use the shadow docket and which kinds of cases they are allowed to preside over. otherwise, we will see a continuation of rulings that strip women and marginalized groups of rights, and institutionally enshrine christian white nationalism.


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Re: looks like justice thomas had 3 other billionaire benefactors [Re: millzy]
    #28439916 - 08/19/23 09:19 PM (5 months, 6 days ago)

How can they restrict the cases they rule on?


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Re: looks like justice thomas had 3 other billionaire benefactors [Re: Enlil]
    #28439922 - 08/19/23 09:26 PM (5 months, 6 days ago)

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How can they restrict the cases they rule on?




my understanding is that they used to have absolute control over their docket and the constitution empowers them to enact laws that can take certain subjects off the table for them.

just something i heard a jurist say recently; you're the lawyer between the two of us so i will not try to get in over my head. :grin:


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Re: looks like justice thomas had 3 other billionaire benefactors [Re: millzy]
    #28439937 - 08/19/23 09:43 PM (5 months, 6 days ago)

I think there are many reasons why the SC doesn't hear cases. Time is gotta be one.


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Re: looks like justice thomas had 3 other billionaire benefactors [Re: millzy]
    #28439938 - 08/19/23 09:46 PM (5 months, 6 days ago)

there is zero proof that any member of the shroomery is a lawyer.

the likelihood of someone on the internet saying they are a lawyer actually being a lawyer in any sense is about the same as anyone claiming to be god on the internet actually being a god.

the cross sectional plausibility of someone on the internet claiming to be both a god and a lawyer being either of the two is pretty low as well and as the sample size grows the likelihood approaches zero.

that being said i also cant figure out how to limit the supreme court from being able to rule on cases, unless you are saying they should have to go through every appeals process before being sent to the top with no fast track.

in which case i think they could probably do that and other potentially similar things to that.

but ultimately if a lower court does something wrong you have to be able to appeal upward to some final court ruling.


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Re: looks like justice thomas had 3 other billionaire benefactors [Re: rxb]
    #28439947 - 08/19/23 09:55 PM (5 months, 6 days ago)

i've been here awhile. i always thought enlil was an attorney. i guess i was mistaken about that.

the argument i've heard is that the constitution empowers congress to pass laws that impose ethical standards and set rules for the kinds of cases they can preside over. they can overturn judicial review if they want. i don't recall the details beyond that. but the jist is that congress can and should act to reign in our corrupt SCOTUS before it's too late.


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Re: looks like justice thomas had 3 other billionaire benefactors [Re: rxb]
    #28439950 - 08/19/23 09:56 PM (5 months, 6 days ago)

Working  about 8 or 9 months outta the year, the SC would never have time to hear every case. You could double stack the court and it still wouldn't get done. Then you have the whole quantity over quality thing.


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Re: looks like justice thomas had 3 other billionaire benefactors [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #28439958 - 08/19/23 10:00 PM (5 months, 6 days ago)

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Working  about 8 or 9 months outta the year, the SC would never have time to hear every case. You could double stack the court and it still wouldn't get done. Then you have the whole quantity over quality thing.




we're talking about two different things. time is absolutely an issue for the court - this is a good reason to add seats so more cases can be heard.

i'm just talking about our lawmakers setting some rules for the court to stop the slow motion christian white nationalist coup we're seeing.


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Re: looks like justice thomas had 3 other billionaire benefactors [Re: millzy]
    #28439967 - 08/19/23 10:05 PM (5 months, 6 days ago)

I must of misunderstood, I stand corrected.

What case  do you consider white Christian nationalism?


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Re: looks like justice thomas had 3 other billionaire benefactors [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #28439978 - 08/19/23 10:17 PM (5 months, 5 days ago)

the dobbs ruling is a recent example of the court acting in the interest of christian white nationalist groups.

but it doesn't stop there. there has been a huge, ongoing project to install theocrats since the civil rights and antiwar movements of the 60's and 70's.


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Re: looks like justice thomas had 3 other billionaire benefactors [Re: millzy] * 1
    #28439981 - 08/19/23 10:21 PM (5 months, 5 days ago)

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i've been here awhile. i always thought enlil was an attorney. i guess i was mistaken about that.




I am. It bothers some people i guess. :shrug:


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Re: looks like justice thomas had 3 other billionaire benefactors [Re: millzy]
    #28439983 - 08/19/23 10:22 PM (5 months, 5 days ago)

The Dobbs ruling was not based on white Christian nationalism, it was a result of the Legislature doing nothing and a shaky legal foundation of Roe v Wade.


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Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.”


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