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Re: All Is Self - documentary [Re: BrendanFlock] * 3
    #28430481 - 08/12/23 02:19 AM (5 months, 14 days ago)

It's awesome to see so much interest around this topic! Wasn't expecting that! Below I've posted two short excerpts which deal with some of the main written about subjects here. You might get it, you might not, but it's not what's important. What is important is to know that you're each whole and complete, without adding or taking away, and that you're all perfectly fine the way you are, with everything that is.


Master Sheng-yen; Jianzhi Sengcan (529-613): 信心銘 Xinxinming;
"The Supreme Way is not difficult
If only you do not pick and choose.
Neither love nor hate,
And you will clearly understand.
Be off by a hair,
And you are as far from it as heaven from earth.
If you want the Way to appear,
Be neither for nor against.
For and against opposing each other
This is the mind's disease.
Without recognizing the mysterious principle
It is useless to practice quietude.

The Way is perfect like great space,
Without lack, without excess.
Because of grasping and rejecting,
You cannot attain it.
Do not pursue conditioned existence;
Do not abide in acceptance of emptiness.
In oneness and equality,
Confusion vanishes of itself.
Stop activity and return to stillness,
And that stillness will be even more active.
Merely stagnating in duality,
How can you recognize oneness?"

Full text plus many other translations of the Xinxinming for comparison.


Stephen Mitchell; Seung Sahn (1927-2004) - Dropping Ashes on the Buddha: The Teachings of Zen Master Seung Sahn - 5. Inside, Outside;
"One Thursday evening, after a Dharma talk at the New Haven Zen Center, a student asked Seung Sahn Soen-sa, “It seems that in Christianity God is outside me, whereas in Zen God is inside me, so God and I are one. Is this correct?”
Soen-sa said, “Where is inside? Where is outside?”
“Inside is in here; outside is out there.”
“How can you separate? Where is the boundary line?”
“I'm inside my skin, and the world is outside it.”
Soen-sa said, “This is your body's skin. Where is your mind's skin?”
“Mind has no skin.”
“Then where is mind?”
“Inside my head.”
“Ah, your mind is very small.” (Loud laughter from the audience.) “You must keep your mind big. Then you will understand that God, Buddha, and the whole universe fit into your mind.” Then, holding up his watch, Soen-sa said, “Is this watch outside your mind or inside it?”
“Outside.”
“If you say ‘outside,’ I will hit you. If you say ‘inside,’ I will still hit you.”
“I don't care—I still say it's outside!”
“If it is outside, how do you know that this is a watch? Does your mind fly out of your eyes and touch the watch and fly back inside?”
“I see the watch. I'm inside, and the watch is outside.”
There were a few moments of silence. Soen-sa said, “Don't make inside or outside. Okay?”
The student, still looking doubtful, bowed."

Source.

:heart:


Edited by spinvis (08/12/23 03:15 AM)


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Re: All Is Self - documentary [Re: spinvis] * 2
    #28430527 - 08/12/23 04:28 AM (5 months, 14 days ago)

:smile: That fellow, I pictured him as someone I know, or it could have been me.

I had a thing with the Am-ness (= Is-ness). Upon waking the thought was turning, and it was one of those times where concept went to the tangible, visual, feeling. Just a simple idea we hear often, but it went, wherever there is Am-ness, that is You. The Am-ness in other people, critters, life, connected to my own, or the likeness resonated.

Is there any difference from Am-ness to Am-ness? Also, what else is not Am-ness?

Words don't do it justice, but I hope anyway it is shared.

It is not that uniqueness is not valuable, but it served to remove the alienation that can be projected with separation.

Wherever there is Am-ness, that is You.

Or call it God, Buddha Mind, Self, ...


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Re: All Is Self - documentary [Re: spinvis] * 1
    #28430541 - 08/12/23 05:28 AM (5 months, 14 days ago)

Quote:

spinvis said:
What is important is to know that you're each whole and complete, without adding or taking away, and that you're all perfectly fine the way you are, with everything that is.
:heart:



:damnright:
:heartpump:
Some potent quotes there too- never really seen you posting any quotes before, spinvis!
Keep it up:super:

Quote:

spinvis said:
It is not that uniqueness is not valuable, but it served to remove the alienation that can be projected with separation.



:namaste:


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Re: All Is Self - documentary [Re: Lithop] * 3
    #28430831 - 08/12/23 10:54 AM (5 months, 13 days ago)

"never really seen you posting any quotes before, spinvis!" :lol:

spinvis is the quotster of awesomesauce.


Btw I just saw this quote, "in Tantric Buddhism, it is known as 'taking the result as the path' wherein practitioners visualize themselves as enlightened beings, realizing that enlightenment already resides within them."


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Re: All Is Self - documentary [Re: syncro] * 2
    #28430841 - 08/12/23 11:03 AM (5 months, 13 days ago)

"When you make the two one and when you make the inside like the outside and the outside like the inside and the above like the below..." Gospel of Thomas, V.22


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Re: All Is Self - documentary [Re: Lithop] * 3
    #28434656 - 08/15/23 07:30 AM (5 months, 11 days ago)

Quote:

Lithop said:
Some potent quotes there too- never really seen you posting any quotes before, spinvis!
Keep it up:super:





Maybe one day I'll post a few somewhere :aliendance:


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