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Finally Doing a Simple but Proper Methanol Extract * 1
    #28434633 - 08/15/23 06:37 AM (5 months, 11 days ago)

Finally doing a Simple but Proper Methanol Extract of San Pedro. I despined then sliced into stars then peeled the skin off then dropped into a PPE5 Container. I added about 16 fl oz of Methanol about 1 hour ago.

Been stirring it randomly for the last hour. Pics of the process coming soon.

This process is based on the first part of this Erowid tek that uses Methanol: https://www.erowid.org/plants/cacti/cacti_chemistry1.shtml

Anyone ever tried this method before? :sanpedro: :rainbowdrink:


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Re: Finally Doing a Simple but Proper Methanol Extract [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #28435141 - 08/15/23 03:48 PM (5 months, 10 days ago)

I've been reading a lot about extractions, LSA/LSH and Mescaline.  Frankly I find it intimidating because the PH values, bases, acids, and solvents seem to vary from source to source.  I think I read about a mescaline extraction method using xylol, which is a chemical I don't want within a mile of anything I'm going to ingest, much less in my kitchen or house.

This technique sounds a lot safer.  Congrats on giving it a try and hope it goes well! Keep us posted!


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Re: Finally Doing a Simple but Proper Methanol Extract [Re: shed light]
    #28435684 - 08/16/23 04:48 AM (5 months, 10 days ago)

Thanks! That xylol does sound familiar....

I just poured out the methanol extract into a glass dish and wow, the most gorgeous emerald green color. Green is my favorite color so this deep emerald green it produced was breath-taking. Might bottle it in the future, just for the art of it!

When I looked inside the extraction container, it looked as if the methanol stripped off all of the dark green layer on the cacti star chips. Thats exactly what I wanted!

Pics coming next week! 💚

There was a minor leak in the lid of the PPE5 container I used. Lost some liquid, Id estimate about 3 fl oz. Not a huge lost but still not great.

With the current heat wave happening in my area, Im hoping my methanol evaporates within two days.

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Re: Finally Doing a Simple but Proper Methanol Extract [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #28436052 - 08/16/23 01:13 PM (5 months, 9 days ago)

I am interested too in your results. Starting to tire of the cactus purge using just tea, even after decanting all the debris


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Re: Finally Doing a Simple but Proper Methanol Extract [Re: Blue Cthulhu]
    #28436089 - 08/16/23 01:39 PM (5 months, 9 days ago)

You guys mean Xylene?  Yeah it's pretty gnarly, but it's just a paint stripper really.  I wouldn't use it inside, but a good mask should be fine and some eye protection.


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Re: Finally Doing a Simple but Proper Methanol Extract [Re: Blue Cthulhu]
    #28436150 - 08/16/23 02:27 PM (5 months, 9 days ago)

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I am interested too in your results. Starting to tire of the cactus purge using just tea, even after decanting all the debris




Yeah, thats the main reason why Im doing this! I just cant do teas anymore. I have real strong taste aversion now. I have to do extracts from now on....


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Re: Finally Doing a Simple but Proper Methanol Extract [Re: Typerwritermonky]
    #28436173 - 08/16/23 02:50 PM (5 months, 9 days ago)

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You guys mean Xylene?  Yeah it's pretty gnarly, but it's just a paint stripper really.  I wouldn't use it inside, but a good mask should be fine and some eye protection.




Xylol is similar to xylene.  A paint thinner/stripper used to reduce very thick oil based paints and make them sprayable through a paint gun.  But its a much more severe irritant than turpentine or mineral spirits or something.  Its horrible to breathe.  Like acetone or brake cleaner, it seems to soak right through the skin.


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Re: Finally Doing a Simple but Proper Methanol Extract [Re: shed light]
    #28436248 - 08/16/23 04:19 PM (5 months, 9 days ago)

and you drink the methanol after?


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Re: Finally Doing a Simple but Proper Methanol Extract [Re: Mindopening22]
    #28436278 - 08/16/23 04:55 PM (5 months, 9 days ago)

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and you drink the methanol after?



Methanol is toxic.  It is used as part of a chemical process to extract mescaline.  Never drink methanol.


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Re: Finally Doing a Simple but Proper Methanol Extract [Re: Mindopening22]
    #28436343 - 08/16/23 06:10 PM (5 months, 9 days ago)

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and you drink the methanol after?




Its evaporated. I mention it in this post: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28435684#28435684

Im hoping to get a tar substance extract when Im done.


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Re: Finally Doing a Simple but Proper Methanol Extract [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #28450006 - 08/28/23 02:54 PM (4 months, 28 days ago)

Any luck, L.C.?


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Re: Finally Doing a Simple but Proper Methanol Extract [Re: Blue Cthulhu] * 2
    #28456629 - 09/03/23 03:33 AM (4 months, 23 days ago)

YES!

Tonight, I got to try my final dried extract. First a recap....

A few weeks ago, I did this methanol extract. I tried to evaporate the extraction and I got this beautiful emerald-green methanol extract. I tried to evaporate it all but I didnt get all of it to evaporate in 2 days, so I poured the unevaporated methanol into another glass pan. I dried the green emerald methanol and got a dried green extract. I tried it about a week ago, very little/subtle effects however, no nausea at all! So it was a partial success for me.

Tonight, I finally tried the other glass evaporated product. The extract has been dried for over a week now. This end product looked a lot different than the first emerald green methanol extract I had. This recent extract looked very similar to extracted LSA from Morning Glory seeds: Sorta a gummy orange-ish substance. Its really interesting how similar the end products for both natural drugs are.

I filled 2 capsules and swallowed them on Saturday, September 2nd. I could taste some of the extract, as some of the extract was on the outside of the capsule. Mild bitter taste. Wasnt that bad at all.

I took both capsules (easily) then went in to State Fair. I brought some dabs and some clove cigs to attempt the Mescajuana experience discretely in public inside the Fair. Well, about 30-45 minutes, I can definitely feel the effects of the mescaline. That body high feeling going thru my whole body. It was actually quite similar to a LSA extract come-up timeline. Subtle, smooth, gradual, "sneaky". About 1.5-2hrs in, I feel like Im peaking. It is so nice to be on mescaline without having to go thru the awful experience of  drinking cacti cacti tea.

I will say this methanol extract is definitely not as strong as a well-prepped 8-hr boil cacti tea. Thats the strongest method Ive experienced. Although its missing the full potency of tea, the trade-off is not having to drink the awful tea and having a less-potent, not-as-full spectrum effect of the cacti.

I tried out my cig/dab Mescajuana experience. It was Ok. Much more subtle than with cacti tea. Could have just been how I smoked the clover cigs coated with dab extract. Not the best method for Mescajuana by any means. But I did feel the synergy in a more tamed-down, "creeping-up" version.

So overall, I would definitely recommend it. Perhaps there are ways to get a more "tea-like" experience. Perhaps with freeze-drying the cacti pieces early in the extraction process? Perhaps powdering the dried cacti is what I am missing? Maybe I need to actually boil the methanol and dried cacti chips instead of just putting the extraction jar in a hot car? Perhaps too much time has elapsed since the original extract and the actual taking of the extract?

A lot more experimentation is needed to improve this novel Methanol-assisted method...


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Re: Finally Doing a Simple but Proper Methanol Extract [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #28458382 - 09/04/23 01:03 PM (4 months, 21 days ago)

Thanks for the update! Glad you had a nice experience. I am totally ignorant in the chemistry department, but from the little I have perused online, it seems that extracting mescaline from cactus is generally pretty inefficient, requiring large amounts of cactus.

How much cactus did you use?


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Re: Finally Doing a Simple but Proper Methanol Extract [Re: Blue Cthulhu]
    #28458632 - 09/04/23 04:46 PM (4 months, 21 days ago)

I didnt use a lot, about 1.25 ft of smallish-diameter cacti. Id say it was pretty close to what a tea would have produced.

I'll post some pics sometime soon...


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Re: Finally Doing a Simple but Proper Methanol Extract [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #28470137 - 09/15/23 02:33 PM (4 months, 10 days ago)

Starting to prep another extraction. Cut a 16" long by 2" diameter cutting of San Pedro. This time, Im gonna skip the drying step to see if I can get a better extraction. The evaporation process will be longer but I should get the same result in the end.


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Re: Finally Doing a Simple but Proper Methanol Extract [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #28471154 - 09/16/23 01:38 PM (4 months, 9 days ago)

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Re: Finally Doing a Simple but Proper Methanol Extract [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #28471346 - 09/16/23 04:31 PM (4 months, 9 days ago)

This sounds so much easier, I would love to see if youve done a extraction with LSA. I have some Argyreia nervosa growing out back ready to flower soon and I personally hate the sides of LSA when eaten raw... if I could extract the LSA into a powered or bind it to a liquid that would be great.


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Re: Finally Doing a Simple but Proper Methanol Extract [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #28473565 - 09/18/23 10:07 AM (4 months, 7 days ago)

would be nice to see some pics of the emerald juice


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Re: Finally Doing a Simple but Proper Methanol Extract [Re: soppos]
    #28475716 - 09/19/23 09:36 PM (4 months, 6 days ago)

I plan on uploading my process photos next week time. Syntex, i have done several LSA extracts. See my sig for the process. There should be photos somewhere in that Journal entry :thumbup:

I did 2 days of extraction. First day, i did a hot water bath of the cacti-methanol mixture in a glass half gallon jar. Did about 4 hours of a hot water bath. Then on Sunday, i did another session about 4-5 hours again. When i strained the methanol, it looked as if the cacti had been dried out by the simmer methanol. The color of the methanol this time was more of a dark algae green. Im pretty confident i got a better extract this time. Time will tell....


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Re: Finally Doing a Simple but Proper Methanol Extract [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #28526303 - 11/02/23 08:55 AM (2 months, 25 days ago)

Do you guys de-thorn simply for comfort of handling or is there some other reason?


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Re: Finally Doing a Simple but Proper Methanol Extract [Re: Airsickness]
    #28526649 - 11/02/23 02:02 PM (2 months, 24 days ago)

so, what happened?


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Re: Finally Doing a Simple but Proper Methanol Extract [Re: Neurotech]
    #28529321 - 11/04/23 04:54 PM (2 months, 22 days ago)

So, yes. What happened.....well, it was awful! But it did work on the second try!

What happened was i did a wet extraction. Big mistake. I processed about 1.5 ft of San Pedro cacti like I usually do except, i didnt do the drying process like I did for my first extraction and i cut the San Pedro stars in half instead of cutting the star tips off like I usually do. This was a HUGE mistake! My resulting extraction was this dark brown goo that fit into 7 capsules that I swallowed (that brown goo should have been my first red flag). I got really sick 4 times during this San Pedro trip. It was some of the worst sickness Ive ever experienced during a trip. Torture. However, I did also feel the mescaline quite well too, so it wasnt a total loss, just a terribly-sickening psychedelic experience.

If I do another wet extraction, i am not putting any cacti core pieces inside the extraction jar. From what Ive read, the toxins that make you sick are inside the inner core sections of the cacti. In my OP, theres a native Peruvian who is doing the cacti cutting process correctly. I should have went with that process :sadyes: But its probably safer to just stick with dry extractions. However, I do not want to dismiss wet extractions altogether just yet!

More experiments to come in the future....


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Re: Finally Doing a Simple but Proper Methanol Extract [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #28572283 - 12/07/23 12:41 AM (1 month, 21 days ago)

Just had a great idea: use a pineapple decorer for decoring the cacti cutting(s).

Edit: i just found this sweeet cacti despiner too! What a find! Cacti Despiner


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