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B+ Overlay *pics*
    #2843028 - 06/30/04 11:24 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Hey, I birthed this casing about a week and 4 days ago. I came home this morning to find it being taken by the devil overlay. Its almost furry lookin. This I need to take a knife to it or what?...or could patching it up do the trick?





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Re: B+ Overlay *pics* [Re: fatesrush]
    #2843093 - 06/30/04 11:47 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I incubated for 7 days, when I began fruiting I did a little patching to even out shit. So when I birth more cakes for casings do you suggest I incubate maybe a bit longer? This casing has one pin so far. Is there more other than fanning and not watering too much that I can do to prevent overlay, or should I not worry. I've cased before with good results, but had no problems with overlay, so this is new to me.


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Re: B+ Overlay *pics* [Re: fatesrush]
    #2843137 - 06/30/04 12:15 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

ha, some bunk ass potting soil. I have more jars to be birthed and am not gonna use the same shit, it was just what i had around when i needed to birth 2 cakes. Shit has chunks of stuff in it and fertilizer, I think i'll use cow dung for my next casings. This is a 2 cake casing.


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Re: B+ Overlay *pics* [Re: fatesrush]
    #2844578 - 06/30/04 08:05 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

do I have to adjust the pH? I only have one pin so far, do you think the ferts could have to do with this, or just give it time?


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Re: B+ Overlay *pics* [Re: fatesrush]
    #2845571 - 07/01/04 01:33 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

That's not overlay. It looks alright, and ready to fruit.

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Re: B+ Overlay *pics* [Re: FunkyBudah]
    #2848223 - 07/01/04 07:00 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I'll put an updated pic later tonight. Now it has one pin, its about an inch big, and no other signs of pinning at all, and now its gotten pretty white on top.


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Re: B+ Overlay *pics* [Re: fatesrush]
    #2848358 - 07/01/04 07:46 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

does this look straight, i think the fertilizer could be making a bitch to pin


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Re: B+ Overlay *pics* [Re: fatesrush]
    #2848362 - 07/01/04 07:53 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I tried the potting soil caseing and it failed for me.It would barely pin in a few places and that was all.Potting soil sucks in my opinion.

I use straight coir nowVVVV







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Re: B+ Overlay *pics* [Re: fatesrush]
    #2848377 - 07/01/04 08:04 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

nice, im buying coco coir for all my jars that need to be cased. How many cakes are in each of those?


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Re: B+ Overlay *pics* [Re: fatesrush]
    #2848378 - 07/01/04 08:05 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

1 pint of white millet to each one.


Your casings look just like mine did when I used soil-but that was all they did-1-4 pins and ppphhhhhhfffffttttt nothing else.


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Re: B+ Overlay *pics* [Re: doc34]
    #2848439 - 07/01/04 08:44 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

My first casing ever was potting soil and it did really well, but im done with p soil. I just need to go find some coco coir within the next few days. What are you sayin about 1 pint of white millet?


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Re: B+ Overlay *pics* [Re: fatesrush]
    #2848468 - 07/01/04 09:00 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Wild Bird seed,rye berries,millet or any type of grain would do.


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Re: B+ Overlay *pics* [Re: doc34]
    #2848480 - 07/01/04 09:03 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

To mix in with the coco coir or what? Also is my shit being taken by overlay, is there anything else i can do to induce more pinning?


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Re: B+ Overlay *pics* [Re: fatesrush]
    #2848513 - 07/01/04 09:19 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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To mix in with the coco coir or what?




No the white millet and wild bird seed and rye berries are the substrate and the coir is the casing layer VVV

http://annonymer.members.easyspace.com/CHAPTER_VIII_THE_CASING_LAYER.htm

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Re: B+ Overlay *pics* [Re: fatesrush]
    #2848521 - 07/01/04 09:22 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: B+ Overlay *pics* [Re: doc34]
    #2850561 - 07/02/04 10:46 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

to scratch or not to scratch, will add new pic.


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Re: B+ Overlay *pics* [Re: fatesrush]
    #2852579 - 07/02/04 10:51 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Now i have one kinda big mushie, and one tiny one, on the sides. Looks like I got layed...I'll put a pic up in a bit...Should I scratch it, whats the risk of ruining my casing?


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Re: B+ Overlay *pics* [Re: fatesrush]
    #2852629 - 07/02/04 11:19 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Shall I scratch? If so, how should I got about doing it, just sterilize a blade and scratch the overlay...then adding more casing or what?









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Re: B+ Overlay *pics* [Re: fatesrush]
    #2853380 - 07/03/04 07:13 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I would remove any and all pins that have formed or are in the process of forming(primordia).They will rot if you cover them.Then I would take a sterile fork and lightly disturb(top 1/4 inch is all)or "scratch" the surface(remove all of those big chunks of bark and rocks you have there on top),then i would lightly mist it with a solution 10 parts water-1 part peroxide(added security?),not too much,then I would apply a sterile layer of casing material(saturated to field capacity).I would only put a thin layer,3/8-1/2 inch-if that much,on top,put it back in incubator and incubate until the mycelium is showing through the valleys,patch aggresive spots-if needed,and wait.
This is just what I would do based on my experience with useing potting soil as a casing layer.
I would use any of the better known casing materials,I prefer to use 100% coir,but,100% vermiculite is way better than useing potting soil!IMO.


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Re: B+ Overlay *pics* [Re: doc34]
    #2854907 - 07/03/04 11:26 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)





Now there are some pins that you can see in this pic, but they are on the sides. Should I just wait til they all mature, am I definately gonna have to scratch?


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