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Re: Is this a normal experience on weed? [Re: shed light]
    #28456246 - 09/02/23 04:53 PM (4 months, 23 days ago)

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CreonAntigone- thank you for your beautiful posts.

I'm in the same boat as the OP.  Weed is a powerful psychedelic that I probably overuse, or more accurately misuse.  I should have better fortitude and limit my use to those special journeys or to when I want to be alone and truly experience music.

OP, you're not alone.  I have very profound trips on high thc doses when smoked.  I had one lifechanging experience and several smaller ones.  Yours sound more immersive an overwhelming than mine, but weed is definitely capable of instigating a potent trip for some people.  People usually think I'm crazy when I talk about the effects it has on me, maybe you've had the same reactions.  But you're not alone.




shed light, thank you for your message! And I completely agree CreonAntigone's messages are incredibly helpful and totally on point! Thank you CreonAntigone.

I just posted my experience on here on shrooms last night, which I haven't done for 8 years, and it's interesting to compare it to weed to get the sense of the potential behind both substances. Not that one should be comparing "who's having the most amazing trip" or turning this into a competition... this is all part of a journey. In that sense, the mushroom trips bleed into the weed trips and vice versa. The process cannot be separated from the destination. All destinations are part of one large, infinite journey.

I was on a high dose of shrooms (4g of penis envy).

I'd say mushrooms is different, but you still get a very powerful mystical message from weed. "Different" doesn't necessarily mean "better". You just get a different perspective as reality itself. Remember, you are not apart from the universe; you are part of the universe - and not just one part but the universe itself.

In one sense, I also think mushrooms is more powerful to me in the part that it knocks out my ego totally... I forget who I am, that my family exists, I'm not in the background commenting "wow, wow, wow". I lose executive functioning, so I think it makes sense to have a trip sitter around for it. And, sometimes, it's helpful to have an ego there to "record" what's going on for the record and just be amazed. So, I could see someone arguing this is a benefit of weed.

Similarly, because of this ability to knock out the ego, I felt like I became more of the host source of reality and not just a phenomenon of it. That I actually went beyond the veil. Kind of like that old expression that some drugs "Makes you see God" and others make "You become God". One isn't necessarily better than the other... they are just different expressions as reality. I know, for instance, that some people say LSD is more intense specifically because it "Makes them see God" as opposed to mushrooms where they feel like the "Become God" (others, however, say the opposite, that mushrooms is more intense; others still explain the effects very differently from what I am explaining. Either way, becoming what you feel is God is ineffable, so you forget it quickly. (Note: I'm not making a theological argument here, but speaking rather loosely and metaphorically... I believe the actual God transcends all things. God is beyond all things, and it's arrogant to say that "You have become God", in my worldview... but this is just the terms we have to describe the experience).

Anyhow, yeah - one can have very intense trips from weed or shrooms, and you probably get out of it what your heart wants to get out of it. But I don't want to put one above the other. They are all have their positive and negative aspects, as does the human sober experience. More importantly, they both are powerful tools to unlock the mind to see another perspective on reality, or, more accurately, they are both tools to transform reality itself as "you", from your point of existence!

(If this sounds incredible, it's because it is... they don't teach these things in school for some odd reason).

I think my intention is to take shrooms no more than 4 times a year (probably better 2 times a year, tops), and weed once every week tops (better, once every 2 weeks).


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Re: Is this a normal experience on weed? [Re: solarshroomster] * 1
    #28456282 - 09/02/23 05:43 PM (4 months, 23 days ago)

Damn dude.  I see things so similarly.  Most of what you said there are thoughts I've had at some point recently.  Especially your comment on how the "become god" thing comes off as arrogant.  I've always been rather put off by that phrase.  It seems somehow... wrong.  At least for me, operating in my value/belief system.  I understand the meaning behind the phrase, but just don't really like the phrase itself.

Do you feel the need to examine your motives for use before dosing or smoking?  I sometimes do.  The line between use and abuse can be fine indeed.  I wrote in a trip report how I felt I had visited a sacred place and felt an aversion to going back there for fun.  Like I'd be violating the sanctity of it.  I really had to have an honest look at myself before deciding to get high again.  It was perhaps a month before I smoked again, and in a much lower quantity.  That being said, I had a smaller but still emotionally significant event the next time I smoked and was glad I did it again.

I'm not sure if you ever get flashbacks with weed but I do.  I've remembered several really amazing childhood memories that I had forgotten. At some point during the high, I flashed back and relived maybe a 15 second snippet of life in vivid, realistic detail.  If weed has such profound affects on you too, I'd highly recommend trying to direct your thoughts toward that sometime!  Being able to keep the ego somewhat intact really enables something special.  I don't force it, sometimes it happens, sometimes not.  But if I gently lead myself towards it and keep it in the back of my mind as I allow myself to spiral off into thought tangents, sometimes something comes up.  I'll track off into a thought tangent about, say, the library (my most recent flashback) and CRACK! suddenly I'm there with my dad, sitting at a reading table with a magazine.  I can see the wood grain of the table and feel the texture of it with my fingernail.  I can see the car driving by outside the window and feel the rough weave of the upholstery on the chair.  It was so mundane but so highly emotional.  It was profoundly uplifting and it reminded me how much love I have for my parents.  Maybe give it a try sometime if you experience weed the way I do!

Also, if you're interested, here's the big lifechanging weed trip: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28422989


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Re: Is this a normal experience on weed? [Re: shed light]
    #28456291 - 09/02/23 05:54 PM (4 months, 23 days ago)

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Do you feel the need to examine your motives for use before dosing or smoking?  I sometimes do.  The line between use and abuse can be fine indeed.  I wrote in a trip report how I felt I had visited a sacred place and felt an aversion to going back there for fun.  Like I'd be violating the sanctity of it.  I really had to have an honest look at myself before deciding to get high again.  It was perhaps a month before I smoked again, and in a much lower quantity.  That being said, I had a smaller but still emotionally significant event the next time I smoked and was glad I did it again.




Yes, like right now. I just returned home to Florida and am debating whether to smoke weed again now that I'm with my two cats, lol. Not sure. Don't think I will ever be sure. It is sacred though, so as long as you are trying to keep it from that perspective, I think you'll end up okay.

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I'm not sure if you ever get flashbacks with weed but I do.




Yes, I do. I particularly get flashbacks of my dreams, which is SOOOOO trippy. Like I understand how we are all in the mind and everything. That our life is an avatar of the mind in all states. I remember the dream vividly in all its particular details where there is NO WAY I would would recall it without the use of marijuana.

How you described weed is very accurate for me, very good description of it. At one point, my trips were like flashbacks to different parts of my life that all collectively went together to form a meta story. Like, certain snippets of my life come together to form a "higher" message. Something like that.

In the car ride today, I was thinking about how hypnosis is likely a good method to retrieve forgotten memories. And though it's often dismissed by the secular-minded, altered states, in general, can do that. The ability to retrieve long forgotten memories is an indication of a powerful substance, in my view!


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Re: Is this a normal experience on weed? [Re: solarshroomster]
    #28456393 - 09/02/23 07:36 PM (4 months, 23 days ago)

Actually, remembering part of the "forgotten" memories was, to me, proof of the existence of the domain. So many memories retrieved where I flashed into the "other worlds"...

it's just too uncanny for me to to dismiss...


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Re: Is this a normal experience on weed? [Re: solarshroomster]
    #28456542 - 09/02/23 09:50 PM (4 months, 23 days ago)

Where'd it go? What happened?

I saw, the thread of the ineffable, disappeared.

Does the frog who looks beyond know not the secret of the pond?


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Re: Is this a normal experience on weed? [Re: syncro]
    #28456546 - 09/02/23 09:54 PM (4 months, 23 days ago)

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Where'd it go? What happened?

I saw, the thread of the ineffable, disappeared.

Does the frog who looks beyond know not the secret of the pond?




Wow!


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Re: Is this a normal experience on weed? [Re: solarshroomster]
    #28456547 - 09/02/23 09:56 PM (4 months, 23 days ago)

Polka once said, "come try some of my famous floral powder". It was like "magic" into another world...


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Re: Is this a normal experience on weed? [Re: solarshroomster]
    #28456647 - 09/03/23 04:58 AM (4 months, 23 days ago)

Polka
Powder
Wow!

Pillar of strength, alambana powder

Medicine, like song


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