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AnattaAtman
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Integration 2
#28414890 - 07/31/23 09:29 AM (5 months, 25 days ago) |
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The key is integration.
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Lithop
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Meditation, integration, elucidation, annihilation.
Rinse and repeat, the four trip horsemen.
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syncro
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Re: Integration [Re: Lithop]
#28415089 - 07/31/23 01:13 PM (5 months, 25 days ago) |
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Intriguing phenomena, everything coming into agreement.
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Lithop
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Re: Integration [Re: syncro]
#28415135 - 07/31/23 01:56 PM (5 months, 25 days ago) |
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syncro said: Intriguing phenomena, everything coming into agreement.
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Re: Integration [Re: Lithop]
#28415156 - 07/31/23 02:22 PM (5 months, 25 days ago) |
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First comes morn... Then comes even-ing.
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AnattaAtman
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AnattaAtman said: The key is integration.
You have to integrate the knowledge and the insights you gain from tripping into your daily life. You gotta trip for living, not live for tripping. It is good to stay grounded. It is good to take refuge to a religion or philosophy, alas your sankharas - the stories you make up - will go astray.
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syncro
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The thread reminded me of the Entering the Stream thread, which I think was also yours?
Integration and Entering the Stream
Are they different? I think of them involving meditation, integration perhaps being more comprehensive, while entering the stream the touching of silence, like dipping the toe in or more, not lacking.
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Re: Integration [Re: syncro]
#28417109 - 08/02/23 07:13 AM (5 months, 24 days ago) |
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syncro said: The thread reminded me of the Entering the Stream thread, which I think was also yours?
You probably mean that one. Not my thread, though I wrote something about the Pure Land.
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Integration and Entering the Stream
Are they different? I think of them involving meditation, integration perhaps being more comprehensive, while entering the stream the touching of silence, like dipping the toe in or more, not lacking.
That's correct, me thinks. You have to integrate your practice (be it meditation or psychedelics) into your daily life. That gives you stream entry.
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syncro
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Yeah that was Kickle's!
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Re: Integration [Re: syncro]
#28417159 - 08/02/23 07:57 AM (5 months, 24 days ago) |
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To me it also goes back to one of my favorite books introducing Buddhism, Entering the Stream.
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connectedcosmos
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Re: Integration [Re: syncro]
#28417621 - 08/02/23 03:59 PM (5 months, 23 days ago) |
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Can one step into the same river twice?
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syncro
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Perhaps. Is change only an appearance?
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connectedcosmos
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Re: Integration [Re: syncro]
#28428020 - 08/10/23 06:14 AM (5 months, 16 days ago) |
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I would say change has to be intertwined with appearance, appearance being at its root , a form or the form of a thing/object
Forms(appearance) are always changing - and what goes up must come down , and so it is the formless that doesn't change
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 54. The true nature of things is to be known personally , through the eyes of clear illumination and not through a sage : what the moon exactly is , is to be known with one's own eyes ; can another make him know it?
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syncro
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If form is emptiness, and emptiness is changeless?, then the river does not change. Or at least it's the same river, or something, emptiness.
When the river is gone, are you standing in the same river?
Edited by syncro (08/10/23 11:39 AM)
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Lithop
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Re: Integration [Re: syncro] 2
#28428222 - 08/10/23 09:43 AM (5 months, 15 days ago) |
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  ^Artists rendering of connectedcosmos and syncro.
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Re: Integration [Re: Lithop] 2
#28428358 - 08/10/23 12:03 PM (5 months, 15 days ago) |
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the filosof tags What about the fidosof?

Do not try to still the river - that is impossible. Only try to realize the truth. There is no river. Then you will see that it is not the river that stills, but it is yourself.
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Re: Integration [Re: Lithop] 2
#28428416 - 08/10/23 01:12 PM (5 months, 15 days ago) |
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When the river is gone , are you standing in the same river?
I'm quite sure the river was never there to begin with
Always in the river 
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Lithop said:
  ^Artists rendering of connectedcosmos and syncro.
  philosoraptor
Never knew the sloth was considered philosophical!?! A true zen guru
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Lithop
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syncro said: the filosof tags What about the fidosof?

Do not try to still the river - that is impossible. Only try to realize the truth. There is no river. Then you will see that it is not the river that stills, but it is yourself.
Fidosof good shit. Awesome quote too bro 
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connectedcosmos said: When the river is gone , are you standing in the same river?
I'm quite sure the river was never there to begin with
Always in the river 


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connectedcosmos said: Never knew the sloth was considered philosophical!?! A true zen guru 
Whilst I agree that the Sloth is guru material, I'll level with you: I just ttyped "Philo" into the smiley window then "raptor" cos I knew it was out there somewhere. Luckily there was 2 of them, and 2 of you guys
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