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Re: Did Bashar al-Assad launch a 7 Apr 18 Chemical Attack in Douma? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] 1
#28425884 - 08/08/23 03:41 PM (6 months, 6 days ago) |
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I don’t really care. Whether or not this one particular incident is a false flag or not doesn’t change the fact that you are running defense for a genocidal regime that has used chemical weapons on its own people dozens of times. The fact that you are more interested in condemning a fake chemical attack than condemning real chemical attacks says all one needs to know about your motivations.
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Re: Did Bashar al-Assad launch a 7 Apr 18 Chemical Attack in Douma? [Re: koods] 1
#28425904 - 08/08/23 03:56 PM (6 months, 6 days ago) |
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At least you're willing to admit the Douma attack was a lie. That's more than the UN is willing to do.
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Re: Did Bashar al-Assad launch a 7 Apr 18 Chemical Attack in Douma? [Re: koods]
#28425919 - 08/08/23 04:10 PM (6 months, 6 days ago) |
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koods said: you are running defense for a genocidal regime that has used chemical weapons on its own people dozens of times.
*hundreds of times
Although your point still stands.
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Re: Did Bashar al-Assad launch a 7 Apr 18 Chemical Attack in Douma? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#28425955 - 08/08/23 04:30 PM (6 months, 6 days ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: At least you're willing to admit the Douma attack was a lie. That's more than the UN is willing to do. 
I did not admit that.
Instead of twisting my words, why not take this opportunity to condemn the Syrian army’s use of chemical weapons - something you have never done.
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Re: Did Bashar al-Assad launch a 7 Apr 18 Chemical Attack in Douma? [Re: koods]
#28425973 - 08/08/23 04:39 PM (6 months, 5 days ago) |
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I condemn any use of chemical weapons, by anyone.
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Re: Did Bashar al-Assad launch a 7 Apr 18 Chemical Attack in Douma? [Re: koods] 2
#28425989 - 08/08/23 04:45 PM (6 months, 5 days ago) |
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shivas.wisdom said:
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koods said: you are running defense for a genocidal regime that has used chemical weapons on its own people dozens of times.
*hundreds of times
Although your point still stands.
Still peddling Pentagon/CIA lies about the Syrian government that were designed to induce regime change and justify support for Al-Qaeda? Jesus dude. Give it a rest already.
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koods said:
I did not admit that.
Instead of twisting my words, why not take this opportunity to condemn the Syrian army’s use of chemical weapons - something you have never done.
Why should anyone condemn the Syrian army for something they never did?
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Re: Did Bashar al-Assad launch a 7 Apr 18 Chemical Attack in Douma? [Re: chopstick]
#28426023 - 08/08/23 05:06 PM (6 months, 5 days ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: I condemn any use of chemical weapons, by anyone.
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chopstick said: Why should anyone condemn the Syrian army for something they never did?
Gotta hand it to you choppy, at least you aren't too cowardly to openly admit to your beliefs.
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Re: Did Bashar al-Assad launch a 7 Apr 18 Chemical Attack in Douma? [Re: shivas.wisdom] 2
#28426049 - 08/08/23 05:17 PM (6 months, 5 days ago) |
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I wonder if this phenomenon of excusing evil acts by governments like Syria and Russia is just a manifestation of hopelessness about the current world order.
Like, sure, a great deal of US foreign policy rests on false flags and propaganda, but that doesn’t mean Assad or Putin are good dudes with crystal clear moral compasses. The idea that anything bad they do is a false flag or lie is giving the US empire a little too much credit. Similarly, accepting these evil acts as necessary or good in order to counter US hegemony just seems like rhetorical sour grapes.
I know I’ve made this point before but you don’t have to be pro Assad or pro Putin to be anti America. And that’s assuming there’s an anti American stance at all. For all of chop’s knowledge of historical US crimes, the dude is still a conservative. Like why even take Russia’s side in anything? Your ideology won bro lmao. It’s over, relish it.
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Re: Did Bashar al-Assad launch a 7 Apr 18 Chemical Attack in Douma? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#28426096 - 08/08/23 06:09 PM (6 months, 5 days ago) |
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It's not hard to believe someone who ran an organization for propaganda studies is a Russian asset. You say it like it should be shocking...
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Re: Did Bashar al-Assad launch a 7 Apr 18 Chemical Attack in Douma? [Re: Sulfurshelfsean] 1
#28426140 - 08/08/23 06:47 PM (6 months, 5 days ago) |
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Sulfurshelfsean said: It's not hard to believe someone who ran an organization for propaganda studies is a Russian asset.
You can believe what you want, but there's no evidence he is a Russian asset. That's what everyone is called who is critical of the US Government, myself included.
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Re: Did Bashar al-Assad launch a 7 Apr 18 Chemical Attack in Douma? [Re: The Ecstatic]
#28426141 - 08/08/23 06:48 PM (6 months, 5 days ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: I know I’ve made this point before but you don’t have to be pro Assad or pro Putin to be anti America. And that’s assuming there’s an anti American stance at all.
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Re: Did Bashar al-Assad launch a 7 Apr 18 Chemical Attack in Douma? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] 1
#28426144 - 08/08/23 06:50 PM (6 months, 5 days ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: That's what everyone is called who is critical of the US Government, myself included.
I've been critical of the us government and haven't been called a Russian asset.
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Re: Did Bashar al-Assad launch a 7 Apr 18 Chemical Attack in Douma? [Re: Kwyjibo] 1
#28426146 - 08/08/23 06:51 PM (6 months, 5 days ago) |
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Steer clear of Reddit and twitter then lol
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Re: Did Bashar al-Assad launch a 7 Apr 18 Chemical Attack in Douma? [Re: The Ecstatic]
#28426151 - 08/08/23 06:56 PM (6 months, 5 days ago) |
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Speaking of being anti American, the leading Republican candidate for president today said he would rather live in France.
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Re: Did Bashar al-Assad launch a 7 Apr 18 Chemical Attack in Douma? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#28426325 - 08/08/23 08:58 PM (6 months, 5 days ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Short summary: The OPCW inspectors found no evidence of a Syrian chemical weapons attack in Douma on 7 Apr 2018. It was a false flag.
You are such a fucking liar. Neither of those statements exist in the document conclusion you linked. In fact, the document you linked is not intended to establish, nor debunk any claims of chemical weapons use, but IS intended to show:
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documented flaws in the FFM Final Report in tandem with identified procedural flaws and overall pattern of events corroborates the conclusions of the Courage Foundation panel in 2019 that ‘conclusions drawn from each of the key evidentiary pillars of the investigation (chemical analysis, toxicology, ballistics and witness testimony,) are flawed’150 and that the investigation was manipulated ‘ostensibly to favor a preordained conclusion’.151
The question I have, why are you misrepresenting the intentions and conclusions of this report? Are you too stupid to understand what this type of procedural review is intended to achieve, or are you just a malicious actor spreading misinformation for Russia? I believe it is a little column A and a little column B.
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Re: Did Bashar al-Assad launch a 7 Apr 18 Chemical Attack in Douma? [Re: Ice9]
#28426346 - 08/08/23 09:08 PM (6 months, 5 days ago) |
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The Douma attack has been an obsession of his for years. He doesn’t care that Assad murdered tens of thousands of his citizens, or that he used chemical weapons repeatedly. He only seems to care about one incident where the west possibly accused Assad of using chemical weapons mistakenly. It’s a perfect demonstration of what he really cares about in this world.
Falcon once posted a poll that showed the Syrian people overwhelmingly supported Assad, and argued that the situation in Syria was overblown because there were packed bars in Damascus. Really.
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Re: Did Bashar al-Assad launch a 7 Apr 18 Chemical Attack in Douma? [Re: koods]
#28426357 - 08/08/23 09:12 PM (6 months, 5 days ago) |
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I hope he gets paid for this.
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Re: Did Bashar al-Assad launch a 7 Apr 18 Chemical Attack in Douma? [Re: Ice9] 1
#28426366 - 08/08/23 09:15 PM (6 months, 5 days ago) |
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Ice9 said:
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Short summary: The OPCW inspectors found no evidence of a Syrian chemical weapons attack in Douma on 7 Apr 2018. It was a false flag.
You are such a fucking liar. Neither of those statements exist in the document conclusion you linked. In fact, the document you linked is not intended to establish, nor debunk any claims of chemical weapons use, but IS intended to show:
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documented flaws in the FFM Final Report in tandem with identified procedural flaws and overall pattern of events corroborates the conclusions of the Courage Foundation panel in 2019 that ‘conclusions drawn from each of the key evidentiary pillars of the investigation (chemical analysis, toxicology, ballistics and witness testimony,) are flawed and that the investigation was manipulated ‘ostensibly to favor a preordained conclusion’.
I'll accept that wording.
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Re: Did Bashar al-Assad launch a 7 Apr 18 Chemical Attack in Douma? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#28426370 - 08/08/23 09:17 PM (6 months, 5 days ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
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Ice9 said:
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Short summary: The OPCW inspectors found no evidence of a Syrian chemical weapons attack in Douma on 7 Apr 2018. It was a false flag.
You are such a fucking liar. Neither of those statements exist in the document conclusion you linked. In fact, the document you linked is not intended to establish, nor debunk any claims of chemical weapons use, but IS intended to show:
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documented flaws in the FFM Final Report in tandem with identified procedural flaws and overall pattern of events corroborates the conclusions of the Courage Foundation panel in 2019 that ‘conclusions drawn from each of the key evidentiary pillars of the investigation (chemical analysis, toxicology, ballistics and witness testimony,) are flawed and that the investigation was manipulated ‘ostensibly to favor a preordained conclusion’.
I'll accept that wording.
I will as well, as it in no way indicates that the preordained conclusion was wrong nor correct. Regardless, you are still a liar for claiming the report concluded:
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Short summary: The OPCW inspectors found no evidence of a Syrian chemical weapons attack in Douma on 7 Apr 2018. It was a false flag.
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Re: Did Bashar al-Assad launch a 7 Apr 18 Chemical Attack in Douma? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#28426372 - 08/08/23 09:18 PM (6 months, 5 days ago) |
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That’s not even close to your original interpretation. Something you probably would have gotten away with if Ice9 didn’t dig a little deeper.
I would go as far as to say that what you posted was was manipulated ‘ostensibly to favor a preordained conclusion’.
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