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Stranger Registered: 08/30/04 Posts: 1,049 Last seen: 1 hour, 52 minutes |
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12 reasons pure THH or tetrahydroharmine rocks:
-------------------------------- 0. THH is not an MAOI or a RIMA but a psychedelic serotonin reuptake inhibitor (SRI) found in caapi with many similarities to mescaline. She is a feminine teaching spirit. There is no tetrahydroharmine in rue seeds, only traditionally used Vegetal Caapi brew in same amounts as harmine usually, but she can be made from harmaline in rue seeds in around 1.5 hour. 1. Older Caapi is becoming close to extinct as harvesters have to go further and deeper into the Jungle...hence the over hundred spiritual centers in South America are having to harvest younger cappi with much less tetrahydroharmine, here is an alternative to help conserve while it grows over many years: Post #13 of this paper https://mycotopia.net/topic/111 --> Please do this UV check even if you source THH from China (liftmode paperwork indicates Chinese made), as there have been a few reports of it glowing green and not pure light blue with the vinegar swabbed UV check, indicating there is still harmaline in the THH, it would not be a good idea to take even light amounts of harmaline with your Ayahuasca unless you like nausea, dizziness, you want only pure THH...either make it yourself or source it from a reputable supplier. THH is an SRI and harmaline is a RIMA, completely different substances <-- 1. Dennis Mckenna Ph.D: page 115: https://www.heffter.org/wp-cont Quote: 2. She is in the same beta-carboline family as ibogaine. She is the 2nd highest alkaloid in Caapi. She has a 10.5 hour half-life with peak at 5.25 hours. 3. DMT only colors are subdued and dark, but THH brightens the DMT visuals: out of this world impossible bright neon colors are a trait of high dose oral tetrahydroharmine + moderate dose 60 to 70mg+ sublingual or oral HPBCD DMT: neon red-greens, neon orange-blues, neon purple-yellows. 4. DMT does not block serotonin on it's own, but THH does...this results in not only stimulation but euphoria in combo with the DMT: and real Ayahuasca visions become apparent...important teamwork. Ibogaine, LSD, mescaline, shrooms, 5-meo-dmt, bufotenin in Amazonian snuffs, all block serotonin, THH blocks serotonin. 5. THH has numerous similarities to mescaline, she is like the beta-carboline version of mescaline, few people have used her over 100mg. I have seen the receptorome chart for THH vs. mescaline. She not only blocks serotonin like mescaline, but agonizes all 3 adrenal receptors A1-A3 associated with beauty and aesthetic enhancement, just like mescaline. Beauty enhancement is "over the top" when THH is included, she is diamondlike shimmering in her beauty. Actresses on TV will look like dazzling glowing super-colorful cartoon versions of themselves (just like with high dose cactus tea) only if you include the THH. Researchers have called THH the "tryptamine of the beta-carboline world" and rightly so. 6. THH is found in average 150mg in a cup of Caapi based Ayahuasca tea, when 2 cups are drank by some of the more advanced members for evening at the vegetals (UDV, Santo Daime, Shuar Indian) people are consuming around 300mg of THH. 7. Music will only sound bad-ass incredible if you include from 150mg to 300mg oral THH with your sublingual or oral DMT. Listening to music on THH + DMT is like listening to music on high dose cactus tea: heavenly, infinitely beautiful music enhancement, every voice and instrument stands out on it's own, like hearing a song for the very first time. 8. This pure THH at 300mg all by herself is extremely visual, she's an isomer of a hormone like substance made in the brain naturally. 9. The entry in TIHKAL for 300mg THH is completely wrong, where the unexperienced person compares it to the effects of 100mg harmaline. She is nothing at all like harmaline, and like 69ron once said about the person's comment in TIHKAL, he or she would not be able to tell their ass from their elbow. I agree, what complete nonsense. Dr. Shulgin wrote that he never got the chance to try THH, but wrote that more studies on it are "badly needed." 10. professor8 (found here from 11/1/2010 he writes like a poet w/special powers of imagination & expression): Quote: Espiridion: Quote: 11. Trips (from here on 12/2/2011) Quote: The world is moving in the direction of the Left Brain: technology and science. What the world needs is to move in the direction of Right Brain development: empathy, spirituality, connectedness. Compounds like tetrahydroharmine in Caapi could be said to improve emotional intelligence. Is this component of caapi a smart-nutrient for the right side of the brain? you be the judge. At 300mg of THH all by itself, there are heavy open-eyed tracers like lightening flashes, and hours of teaching closed eye visions that start with colored sparkles and fireworks (red, green, yellow, blue) that dart around and progress into full-fledged way-beyond 4k visions with eyes closed that are not only static but often animated like slow and high speed movies, but all one monochrome color like green or blue for me, when you add DMT, the visions then become colored and patterning on animals for example will display their associated colors, DMT also adds on to or builds on top the THH visions, expanding them, but the teachings and insights & visions are credited to the Vine, just as Gayle Highpine writes in linked paper: 12. Gayle Highpine (Ayahuasca researcher): http://www.ayahuasca.com/amazon Quote: Page 154 of "Various Alkaloid Profiles in Decoctions of Banisteriopsis Caapi, 2005": https://kodu.ut.ee/~hellex/aya/ Quote: Dr. Callaway wrote in "The Entheogen Review": Quote: THH blocks serotonin, just like all the major natural oral psychedelics, serotonin blocking results in stimulation, breaking down of barriers and filters, direct access to divine spiritual world, increased visionary power, major beauty, color and music enhancement, euphoria in combo with the DMT. DMT does not block serotonin but requires THH in combo to do this, important teamwork. 5-ht1a agonism is inhibitory and results in serotonin blockage (over 80% of brain 5-ht). Thomas S. Ray's study shows a value of 3.57 at SERT for Ibogaine (4.00 is max). Ibogaine has been shown to inhibit serotonin transporter (SERT) noncompetitively, in contrast to all other known inhibitors, which are competitive with substrate. Ibogaine inhibits both serotonin and dopamine reuptake transporters, it is an SDRI or serotonin & dopamine reuptake inhibitor. THH or tetrahydroharmine also inhibits the serotonin reuptake transporter (SERT). In contrast, as an example, Cocaethylene (coca leaf tea bags soaked in wine, the orally active & potent ingredient formed in the liver from cocaine + ethanol in the 1860's "Vin Mariani" wine popular with both Popes, Thomas Edison and scores of other famous people) increases the levels of serotonergic, noradrenergic, and dopaminergic neurotransmission in the brain by inhibiting the action of the serotonin transporter, norepinephrine transporter, and dopamine transporter. These pharmacological properties make cocaethylene a serotonin-norepinephrine-dopamin Dr. Nichols (Purdue Scientist authorized to study LSD, from Heffter.org LSD paper): https://www.heffter.org/wp-cont Quote: -------------------------------- 1st HPBCD DMT capsule Ayahuasca Journey, April 21, 2021 (2 years ago): -------------------------------- https://www.shroomery.org/forum On my very first 300mg oral THH freebase + 200mg harmine freebase mixed into 60mg HPBCD DMT (60mg DMT complexed to x7 or 420mg HPBCD in 6 drops boiling hot water in 1 minute on a spoon) journey with 2 more 100mg harmine + 60mg HPBCD DMT capsule re-doses at each 1.5 hour mark: ...all the way from 8 pm till 1 am in the morning (5 hours) I was seeing closed eye visions of slow and high speed movies...I saw brightly colored serpents, dungeons I traveled thru, many Mesoamerican pyramids, women of incredible beauty, Japanese landscapes, dancing geometrics, many different animals on a rotating globe, walking on the planet-like globe as it spun, hundreds of visions like slow and high-speed movies over the course of many hours. I wore headphones and listened to music the whole time, as the music sounded just like if I had taken a very strong cactus tea. I saw the interiors of many magnificent homes, exposed like a camera flash went off, then off to the next home interior, bizarre alien looking creatures, I saw ancient ruins but they were seen as they were before they fell apart. All sorts of architectural wonders appeared that I could not make out exactly what time period they were from. All the visions were enchanting & manifested incredible beauty. The multi-colored beautiful serpents kept appearing several times in different forms, as if they have some prominence to do with it all, two of them had shining skin covered in gold scales and intertwined like DNA, reminds me of the Aztec quetzalcoatl myth, the "serpent of precious feathers." ...all of these visions were brightly colored due to the oral HPBCD DMT + harmine + THH combo in a single capsule, taking 2 more re-doses all night long..it was one of the most powerful psychedelic experiences of my life...and I've taken Ayahuasca x 90 times, cactus tea 100 times, etc...I have never had over 5 hours of non-stop CEV visions anything close to what I saw that first night. The visions inspired me to buy a book on the Aztec myth of "Quetzalcoatl, the serpent of precious feathers", as I feel somehow this entity is a "teacher to mankind". I saw the brightly colored serpents many times in the 5 hours of visions, and now I understand why they are so commonly reported in Ayahuasca journeys. They seem to possess divine knowledge that humans were not supposed to have been privileged to, but the serpents gifted this knowledge to humankind. Recently found a 1.5 hour video on Amazon prime entitled "Ancient Alien Origins" and "Alien gods" 2019 on Amazon prime which is all about this ancient alien flying serpent or dragon entity which is found in all religions of the world & "BAM, Builders of the Ancient Mysteries". Return of the Serpent & of Eden: https://earthmedicine2015.wordp -------------------------------- Ayahuasca Journey #47 (May-20-2022): -------------------------------- https://www.shroomery.org/forum Dose: 300mg tetrahydroharmine or THH freebase in capsule + 120mg HPBCD DMT covered with x7 or 840mg HPBCD powder, added 12 drops of hot water, mixed and mashed all together using end of another spoon for 1 to 2 minutes) then mixed 200mg harmine into the HPBCD DMT on the spoon and added all this to a single Ayahuasca capsule: ....after 10 minutes of animated super-colorful geometrics, then came the realistic visions: I viewed incredibly beautiful women morphing into other beautiful women, these women changed into nearly 20 different women, completely naked and with animated face changes, infinite beauty, mind blowing CEV's...like the most incredible cartoon renderings of the most beautiful women, they even had geometric swirling pastels on the surface of their bodies...completely blown away. I usually use this capsule Ayahuasca at least once a week. When I say animated, these women smiled and blew kisses and moved into all different positions...like watching a movie. They made intimate eye contact and communicated via physical motions. This was a +5 Shulgin level experience, this felt like direct communication and receiving of important artistic creative feelings and insights into the feminine domain. This is fascinating to me as one of my interest is cartoon drawing and reading cartoon books. Ayahuasca has a tendency to find your interest and show you teaching visions related to them. I recorded this journey as one of the most visual of my entire life, never have I seen an hour's worth of beautiful women morphing into other women, with swirling geometric pastel patterns on their naked bodies, communicating physically, this is an artist's dream come true, way beyond 4k, visual detail astounding. I had headphones on, and the music sounded as if I had taken a strong bridgesii cactus tea (18" of bridgesii or around 500mg of mescaline), profound music enhancement, just heavenly, powerful spiritual insights, infinite open eyed beauty and neon colors splashed on all the walls, very powerful experience, it was so strong I started to feel the dmt starting to work in only 30 minutes, incredible blast off, lasted 1.5 hour with very strong trip, with 1 full hour of powerful closed eye visions as stated above. Zero nausea, zero dizziness, zero anxiety. -------------------------------- 69ron on harmalas: -------------------------------- Quote: Part 3: 300mg Tetrahydroharmine (THH) teaching visions all by herself: The Ayahuasca closed eye visions using 150 to 300mg tetrahydroharmine or THH and HPBCD complexed DMT (30mg on up) together surpass in magnificence anything I have ever seen in reality or in works of art. With open eyes, all spiritual things such as nature, art, female form, beauty, joy, take on significant meaning with infinite beauty, just like with cactus or LSD. Extraordinary beauty is manifested with open eyes and with the visions one sees with closed eyes. Impossible neon-like colors are seen that don't exist on this Earth. The existence of a higher spiritual plane is recognized to which insight can and must be gained, yet it does not reject the mundane reality as inferior or empty. This joyous embracement of the world of form leads to words like infinite pleasure, beauty and joy. This loving reappraisal of the worldly forms leads the way to higher divine planes. At 9pm one night, took another 100mg of THH, for a total of 350mg of THH for afternoon & night, before I fell asleep, I watched dream-like monochrome imagery (usually always in green or blue for me) as the THH was still working...I viewed mind-blowing vistas--grand architecture and cities, a bookshelf full of ancient books, a view of the gardens in front of what looked like Versailles, France. I traveled down a street in Midieval period where I saw beautiful women walking along the street, I could make out the houses & markets along the street. Many of these visions are like slow speed movies being played, way beyond 4k, highly detailed...true Ayahuasca visions...this always happens when I take at least 300mg or more of tetrahydroharmine during the late afternoon/early night. This is one of the best parts of the journey imho. I've taken 300mg of THH on it's own many times and for hours with eyes closed I view endless dream-like visions, like slow and high speed movies being played for several hours...totally unlike normal dreams, she seems to tap into the "Akashic record" of the universe, the ether where all events, past, present, and future are stored...she shows you artwork, architecture, nature, culture, fantasy, history, the future, spiritual, supernatural. The visions are also characterized by the extraordinary beauty that they manifest. Tetrahydroharmine was called by one researcher "the tryptamine of the beta-carboline world" to give an example of her remarkable visionary properties. She is an isomer of a hormonal-like compound found in the brain naturally, she is what gives Ayahuasca her telapathine or telethapy properties and CEV dream-like visionary power. 300mg THH in Caapi is just as visual as 100mg harmaline but without the nausea and dizziness. At 300mg she gives one several hours of incredible closed eye realistic visions, this places her very high on the "psychedelic periodic table" for visions compared to just about any other entheogen. It's like entering a university, she teaches you for hours with not only sequential visions one after another, but visions seen in continuous slow and high speed movies. She tells you a story for a long period. There is a theme to it all each time, the beautiful visions never repeat session to session. I only rarely go beyond 300mg THH, as a little dizziness sets in above 300mg for sure. No dizziness at 250mg, only a tiny bit at 300mg. Several weeks ago, after drinking 300mg tetrahydroharmine, I saw the interior decorations of palaces, the checkered floors, the beautiful windows and furniture, the winding stair cases, I was blown away. I've seen sacred temples for religious worship, beautiful animals and super fine women, birds of all kinds, even the lost city of Atlantis, I was taken in for a bird's eye view, zooming in from way above to all the way down into the city center. Caapi tells a story when you drink it with eyes closed, she teaches you things, the most beautiful "realistic visions" that no other entheogen comes close to showing you, these realistic visions go on forever with Caapi, I can recline and watch for 2 hours or more the visions, the visions are quite powerful. You can take additional THH hours later to bring back the visions again for another 45 minutes, the doses are additive. Pic1: 300mg of THH showed me closed eye vision of gardens at Versailles, France Pic2: Caapi, Queen of the forest Edited by tregar (08/09/23 04:23 AM)
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Bloomer Registered: 05/15/14 Posts: 2,866 Last seen: 6 hours, 47 minutes |
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Yes I agree THH is a holy grail. Any synergy to report between THH and mescaline? Mescaline + freebase dmt is the key to something. Maybe all three would be the trinity
And what's the story with telepathine? Surely they were referring to the thh in caapi. I've had two experiences of entanglement on thh where a friend and I's consciousness bubbles briefly merged which I could only describe as telepathy. I assume that's part of the reason it's done in groups or with the shaman. There's potential for penetration Edited by Icon (08/07/23 10:07 AM)
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Stranger Registered: 08/30/04 Posts: 1,049 Last seen: 1 hour, 52 minutes |
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Icon said:
Quote: Hi my friend Icon, always good to hear from you! Love your posts, learned so much from them. Yes, the THH is surely responsible for the telepathine in the Caapi, you can see deeply into all living things, as if you can read the mind, even rising above thought to that pure meditative state where all creativity and artistic insights come from, beyond the self to the divine. Yes, as matter of fact, last night I took 18" of bridgesii (2.5" thick) equivalent of around 450 to 500mg mescaline first at 1pm, then 1 hour later took 100mg of pure tetrahydroharmine or THH in a capsule, she (THH) always makes it feel like I'm taking around 600mg of mescaline at that 100mg additional dose added. I wrote in my trip journal, one of the most incredible divine experiences of my life, lasted till 8pm...just divine, euphoria, colors, beauty enhancement way over the top, in 7th Heaven all day long, I was mesmerized and received divine healing. I had lost my hearing in right ear for 4 months due to covid attacking my hearing nerves and even causing troubling tinnitus (ringing in ear) during all that time, I have finally been able to trip again as have been well for 4 weeks now, as my hearing returned after applying DMSO to the back of my bad ear every 4 days for a month, left on for 30 minutes, then wiped excess off, the DMSO is the most potent anti-inflammatory on earth, and got rid of the inflammation in my year, and hearing returned to 100%. https://mycotopia.net/topic/111 Posted 04 January 2022 - 02:22 PM, post #7: -------------------------------- Part 4: Tetrahydroharmine receptorome similarities to mescaline; potentiates cactus & safety note -------------------------------- A little off topic, but I think tetrahydroharmine is a pretty special compound. I've used 250mg of it to potentiate cactus to very strong levels, it makes a 12" medium san pedro cactus tea which may contain around 250mg mescaline feel like an X-large 12" thick san pedro cactus containing around 400mg mescaline. It makes a 12" thick bridgesii cactus feel closer to a tea made with a 12" bridgesii cactus along with an extra 6" piece. In the data I've seen for THH, it strongly blocks serotonin just like cactus, but also agonizes the adrenal A2A thru A2C receptors (the receptors associated with aesthetics & beauty), just like mescaline has been shown to do receptorome wise, explaining perhaps why they "overlap" so well. THH being able to make mescaline in cactus feel much stronger than it really is. Anyone who has ever taken cactus or high dose THH knows the appreciation for beauty experienced is "over the top". But you have to stagger the THH from the cactus by taking the tetrahydroharmine around an hour after the cactus is taken, that way any minor maoi's or rima's in the cactus won't interact with the SRI which is THH, which can result in a faster heartbeat for a few hours which has happened to me before...so long as you take it later, it potentiates the cactus quite incredibly...it feels like I've taken 400mg of mescaline containing cactus tea when it's really only 250mg mescaline containing cactus, and they both lasts around 6 hours with super strong activity, so they wind down at around the same time. I have around 7 months experience combining the two, giving myself around 2 weeks apart from journeys. It works so well, I won't take cactus any other way from now on. I get much more mileage from cactus this way. Visuals and visions are insane, music is so good sounding, you would think you were an alien experiencing sound and music for the very first time, every instrument stands out on it's own, like hearing a track for the very first time. Always take the san pedro, bridgesii or torch cactus first (they all contain trace maoi like actives)...then take the THH one hour later, in that order, then the journey is pure bliss and no negative interactions. Beautiful combo beyond belief, just like the combo of THH + LSD or THH + mushrooms. -------------------------------- You don't need much THH or tetrahydroharmine to have a bad ass enhanced trip, 100mg pure THH is extraordinary when combined with your 150mg harmine and 60 to 90mg dmt. See post #1 several paragraphs down for 12 reasons THH or tetrahydroharmine rocks. But if you want to have hours of real Ayahuasca visions just like Pablo Amaringo, I suggest raising your THH amount to 275 to 300mg, realistic visionary stories will be told for up to 3 hours: http://www.thethird-eye.co.uk/a THH in combo with DMT adds: 1) REAL Ayahuasca visions (thh is related to ibogaine and is very visionary,) THH is responsible for the teachings and insights enherent in the Caapi vine. 2) adds euphoria (just as strong as mescaline and LSD euphoria) and mild stimulation like mescaline or LSD. 3) adds neon colors (similar to mescaline colors) and tracers like lightening strikes. 4) adds extreme music enhancement (THH = DMT makes music sound bad ass just like with mescaline) 5) adds divine infinite beauty enhancement (example: actresses on TV will look like glowing colorful cartoon versions of themselves with exaggerated features just like with mescaline). 6) THH is found in 150mg in 1 cup of traditional Caapi based Ayahuasca tea drank by vegetals (Santo Daime, etc) and is found in 300mg when 2 cups drank for evening. 7) THH is responsible for the strong afterglow you feel for days afterwords and even grows new neurons in the brain, many studies on-line have documented this, very strong anti-depressant and anti-addiction healing effects for up to 2 weeks afterwards. 8) Studies by Dr. Callaway have shown that the vegetal drinkers prefer Ayahuasca drinks high in THH over DMT, see entheogen review study on post #1 of this thread. 9) THH is zero nausea, even up to 250mg, there is a slight amount of dizziness at 300mg but not by much. There is ZERO NAUSEA using a 000 size gelatin capsule, no bad aftertaste, no dizziness, using the portions below: My weight is exactly 200lbs and below works every single time for this big dog: 150mg harmine freebase + 100mg THH freebase + 60mg dmt freebase, mashed into aloe vera gel, all in a single capsule = +3 experience 150mg harmine freebase + 100mg THH freebase + 90mg dmt freebase, mashed into aloe vera gel, all in a single capsule = +4 experience 150mg harmine freebase + 100mg THH freebase + 120mg dmt freebase, mashed into aloe vera gel, all in a single capsule = +5 experience 150mg harmine freebase + 100mg THH freebase + 150mg dmt freebase mashed into aloe vera gel, all in a single capsule = way too strong, don't recommend, I've done x 3 times, it's a frightening experience amidst the overpowering visuals, colors, see my trip reports above. It felt like an alien UFO was going to surround me, beam me up and take me away to another planet, walls shifting neon colors in all directions, patterns on all furniture, bee hive like geometries in 3-d formed on all walls...had to close my eyes each time to try and find a happy place as even moving an inch would trigger a new cascade of visuals. Always take all 3 ingredients at the exact same time for the most powerful trip, just as the shaman's do...never stagger any of the ingredients by 10 to 15 minutes or the trip will be weaker and shorter. The journey is 1.5 hour or 90 minutes long with strong effects....and hours of afterglow. You can RE-DOSE with another capsule containing no more THH, as the THH you took earlier has a half-life of 10.5 hours with peak at 5.25 hours...just make another capsule with a lower amount of harmine (as harmine has a half life of from 1 to 3 hours, as 1/2 the harmine amount you took earlier will still be active) and a small amount of dmt, say 100mg harmine + 60mg dmt for example, just experiment to find your perfect amount. If you want your 000 capsule to feel as strong and all-encompassing as REAL Jungle Ayahuasca, be sure to mash your dmt freebase into some sticky slimy FRESH aloe vera gel on a spoon for 2 minutes, mix and mash it together, then scrape this from off the spoon into your 000 size gelatin capsule (100 of these dirt cheap on *mazon). Then add your harmine and THH to the capsule. You can even find a gelatin capsule holder on-line too, see my pic above. I've used this capsule method (zero nausea) over 80 times over many, many years and love it compared to a brew which is often disgusting to taste, hard to get down, easily nauseating, which I used in the very beginning of my journeys, then graduating to the capsule. You can buy aloe vera leaf clippings on-line from all sorts of places, (your local grocery store often carries a clipping for two dollars in the Asian section) when it comes in, place aloe vera leaf on a board, use a razor blade to carefully slice off the top layer of the leaf, exposing the gel insides, then shave and squeeze out the slimy gel insides into a 1/4 pint jar, and store this gel in the freezer, it will keep forever...defrost when ready to use, it will only keep for 1 week in the fridge. You want FRESH aloe vera gel only from the leaf as this is where the polysaccharides reside. Aloe vera gel you buy on-line will not work and contains a crap load of filles. These polysaccharides in the leaf (also found in real Jungle Hawaiian psychotria) enhance the absorption of the extracted dmt by up to twice normal, resulting in very powerful trips which are way more colorful and visual and healing then just plain extracted DMT...always mix your extracted DMT into this gel. Aloe vera gel has also been shown to enhance the uptake of vitamins by the intestines by up to 3 to 3.5 times normal due to the opening up of "tight junctions". Plain extracted dmt even up to 120mg often never gets beyond a level +3, but aloe vera gel or HPBCD mixed into extracted DMT (just like jungle Ayahuasca) always results in way beyond level +3 trips, easily hitting level +5 with proper dosage. I've verified this myself countless times as have studies by the clearlight group of a dozen people each comparing extracted dmt with real leaf brews. The extracted dmt only reached +3 in strength, while the real leaf brews always reached a +5 level and were claravoyant and all-encompassing and super-colorful compared to the extracted dmt only. But you can easily simulate real Ayahuasca brew by using the aloe vera gel or HPBCD oral enhancment penetration factors. Edited by tregar (09/05/23 02:56 PM)
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Albert Hoffmans Apprentice Registered: 08/30/07 Posts: 2,104 Loc: Your Imagination Last seen: 3 months, 22 days |
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Awesome information in this post, tregar. Always enjoy reading yours.
I've been meaning to make some THH to experiment with and I think this post will push me over the edge. Thanks.
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Question for you tregar....
Let's say you have a psilocybin containing mushroom that also contains Harmine/Harmaline. What would be your recommended route for converting/extracting as much THH/psilocybin/psilocin into a final product? Double points if you can devise a way to do this without extraction, preserving the architecture and original look of the mushroom. Preferably this would be performed before the mushrooms are dried.
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Stranger Registered: 08/30/04 Posts: 1,049 Last seen: 1 hour, 52 minutes |
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djbabyjesus said:
Quote: First off djbabyjesus, love your post "Home Brewing 5-HO-DMT and 5-MEO-DMT from Grapes" here, and many of your other posts! keep up the great work! : https://www.shroomery.org/forum Unfortunately, I've never extracted THH from any plants, although it is possible, I'm just too lazy and prefer the super easy route converting harmaline to thh in 1.5 hour, went into a trance long time ago and the method below was given to me by a higher power in a trance, as I had spent many weeks in agony trying to figure it out, and at the time, all that was available was the method in TIHKAL which requires impossible to get chemicals. Posted 04 January 2022 - 02:41 PM (at mycotopia, post #13): https://mycotopia.net/topic/111 -------------------------------- Part 10: One way to make pure tetrahydroharmine -------------------------------- Once you get to the end of your rue extraction, where you put your rue hcl in water and precipitate the harmine from the harmaline, you want to slowly bring the ph of the water up to exactly 7.0 with drops of 10% ammonium hydroxide (from hardware store, the industrial janitorial version)...at 7.0 only the harmine will fall out, collect over vacuum filter...then raise ph to 7.5 or 8.0 (your preference) and collect a small middle fraction, which you will want to set aside as it is a mix of some harmaline with some harmine...keep this fraction to add back in the future when you do another rue extract...now collect the 3rd fraction, which is the harmaline only at ph = 7.5 or 8.0 and above. Details: I dissolve the rue hcl extract into water on a stir mantel, and as the stir mantel spins....add drops of 10% ammonia to precipitate only the harmine 1st, then a very small middle fraction (harmine + harmaline), then a final fraction which is only harmaline. I prefer using 10% ammonia from hardware store (janitorial). Super good PH meter: Apera Instruments ph20 ph meter. Now once you have your harmaline freebase... 1) place 10.5 grams of harmaline in a 1 liter pyrex cup style glass 2) add 900ml vinegar 3) add 40g zinc dust (from pyrotechnic places) in the pyrex glass too, use 40g zinc dust per each 10.5 grams of harmaline. You will see tiny hydrogen bubbles rise to the surface. 5) place beaker solution on a magnetic stirrer with stir rod and spin entire solution slowly 6) spin for 1.5 hour, the solution will turn from green to a transparent like color after 1.5 hour, use end of cotton q tip to place in solution and dab on paper plate in front of blacklight, it will now glow blue when transition is done... 7) once done with spin, let the solution sit for 1 hour, most (99%) of the zinc dust will settle to bottom, then filter solution over a #101 9cm filter disc fitted to a vacuum flask with vacuum trap in series with your vacuum pump, this will give you a transparent golden color liquid, use this solution for next step. Throw away the zinc dust you just collected on filter disc (be careful, don't throw zinc on top aluminum foil in garbage or it will smoke due to hydrogen loaded zinc, best to put used zinc in a baggie with water to keep it moist, keep away from aluminum). The pump/vacuum filter flask & filter disc will remove 100% of any zinc dust. so in other words, filter pyrex beaker solution (takes out the zinc dust) over a #101 9cm filter disc fitted inside a vacuum filtration flask hooked up to a vacuum pump, with a small vacuum trap in series, in-between the filtration flask and the pump. A good pump is JB platinum DV-142N 5 CFM heavy duty vacuum pump. Cool you are left with a 100% clear transparent with just a touch of golden very light yellow color with no zinc dust at all...now add (80ml of 10% janitorial ammonia per 2g of harmaline)...so this means add 400ml of the 10% ammonia to your solution...you will immediately see the thh crash out of solution as a white powder, place mason jar in fridge for 3 hours, the crystals will all be seen at bottom of mason jar. 9) you will collect 7.5 grams of pure white THH freebase on the filter disc sitting in your vacuum filtration flask once you pour fridge cold solution over a #101 9cm filter disc in your vacuumm pump, rinse THH with some cold water. put filter disc of thh in a pyrex tray, scrape off and dry under fan...pure white. 10) always this will happen: exactly 75% is the yield, as I don't know why this is so...but it's a great yield still. Even in TIHKAL, the yield was similar, right at 75% as well. 11) The more zinc you use, the faster the reaction progresses, so 35 to 40g zinc means the reaction is finished by 1.5 hour. I've looked at the #101 filter after filtration, hardly anything at all on it, truly only 1% of the zinc dust remains to be filtered after sitting for 1 hour. If you don't have a vacuum pump/filtration setup: Personally, I believe the cotton ball in a funnel to be one of the greatest inventions of all time--and think it would work just fine for filtering out the remaining 1% zinc dust, remember 99% of the zinc dust falls to the bottom already after sitting for 1 hour after the spin mantel is turned off. What you are filtering is actually the 1% of zinc dust from the very bottom after sitting that get's kicked up back into the solution as you are decanting it off. p.s. I also saw an episode of "Ancient Aliens" in which they discovered remnants of zinc dust inside one of the chambers, and they believe the Egyptians were making hydrogen gas using zinc and vinegar, speculating that the great pyramid was some sort of power generating device. 12) This THH at 300mg is extremely visual, she's an isomer of a hormone like substance made in the brain naturally. With eyes closed for several hours are seen endless slow and high speed motion movies of nature, architecture, culture, history, the future, way beyond LSD or mescaline visuals...very realistic, mind-blowing...and with open eyes, beauty is extreme (over the top) and there is spiritual joy....this is the best psychedelic secret kept under wraps...because hardly anyone has used it over 100mg. Combine 250mg THH orally (take 45 minutes before) with sublingual 60mg of DMT complexed to 470mg HPBCD, add 10 drops boiling water, mash on a spoon hard back and forth for 2 minutes using the end of another spoon, mash or knead it all hard together using your muscles, grab off spoon using bottom side of tongue (it will all adhere) and hold for 12 to 15 minutes along with 35mg sublingual harmine freebase at the exact same time under tongue... ...22 minutes in you will experience profound beauty with open eyes, heavy CEV visions of spinning geometrics, actual temples, and ancient architecture, never ending breathtaking immaculate visions...pupils very dilated, music sounds incredible. 90 minutes long. 300mg THH is where the visions really are seen well, if you are not used to it, there is some slight dizziness at this dosage for a short period of time, but none at 250mg. The DMT really adds to the visions as well & brightens/colorizes them, incredible combination, just like in Ayahuasca. You can re-dose more HPBCD DMT every 1.5 hour x two more times. Pic1: One way to make tetrahydroharmine using 10% janitorial ammonium hydroxide (I find my rooto ultra gallon 10% at hardware store by the lake, it's not at the big box hardware stores). Pic2: Dissolve your rue hcl extract into warm 115 degree F water so it all dissolves, drop in two high precision PH meters, start the spin mantel, and add drops of 10% hardware store ammonia until you reach ph=7 when the harmine only will fall out, ph 7.1 to ph 7.9 = small middle fraction of harmaline mixed with harmine, put away and save for a rainy day when doing another extraction to add back in, ph 8.0 and above = all the harmaline only.
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Personally, I don't even go over 100mg of Thh anymore. Plenty enough.
From the archives of DMT World: Quote: Edited by tregar (09/04/23 03:14 AM)
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this is some super interesting stuff!I would skip the Trichocereus cacti and go straight for the peyote... I had a scary *as in verging on serotonin syndrome maybe scary* time with a bridgesii alkaloid HCL extract some time ago . I had to take diazepam to stop the muscular contractions... it was not a strong psychedelic experience and this was not a fear reaction- it was more like a poisoning. It may have caused some long-term damage as i have been dealing with musculuar issues ever since but there are other factors at play. There are just too many other alkaloids in the trichocereus cacti as far as I can tell. Personally i find mescaline a totally different ally/medicine to the tryptamines and the vision and tone and feel of the plant teacher is different. Smoking D at the peak of a mild mescaline session is a golden combo indeed, and seems to transform the remainder of the effects of the mescaline into something more tryptamine-like. Wade Davis reports in his One River book on his mentor RE Schultes's report of coming across a tribe in the Colombian jungle, who made a brew from a single vine with no admixture, producing a yellow instead of the usual brown liquid. IIRC this was called Tetrapterys methystica but I have not seen any info elsewhere. This could be a vine high in THH... -------------------- "Psyche" means soul, not mind Edited by Elixirel (09/01/23 03:00 PM)
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Pharmahuasca was one of the worse things I ever did... this was a combo of rue extract via vinegar & salt method and 150mg D melted into hot water and dissolved with citric acid...
Complexing the D in polysaccharides sounds interesting but I believe it was the rue extract that was to blame for the awfulness of the experience (along with my own shit of course). I have not touched any rue product since as I found vine tea a much much superior medicine when combined with leaves or bark. Processing rue extract into THH sounds like the way to go for an acceptable alternative to vine, if it's as good as you say!! Nausea will happen with any of these substances if you don't know what you're doing with preparation ( fasting and generally being clean)- It is not just the result of harmaline or impurities, although the tannins in the brew surely make it worse. -------------------- "Psyche" means soul, not mind Edited by Elixirel (09/01/23 02:57 PM)
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Quote: I am curious. Can you tell me more about the bridgesii alkaloid HCL extract that led to the unfavorable effects?
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Well I had taken 10g powdered green flesh before from that cactus and it had a lot of euphoric and physically stimulating effect so i assumed a higher dose would bring on the mescaline effects but it was probably loaded with hordenine or something like that.
It was a an alkaloid extract made with the usual acid-base extraction ... but I'm not really here to discuss cacti
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Are there any other sources of info for the THH prep ? Are zinc grains useable? Dust is hard to find and likely to be dirty if bought from pyrotechnics store ( non-existent in many places)...
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Could get a bar of zinc and a file, grinder, or sander
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Quote: Mescaline is a strong vasoconstrictor. I had 500mg of mescaline hcl and I love that dosage but the physical side effects (muscle tightness and increased blood pressure) start to get a little intense.
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Quote: Oh yeah I make sure to take Arginine to help with that. Edited by djbabyjesus (09/03/23 05:02 AM)
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Elixirel said:
Quote:She is quite extraordinary in every way possible, I've used her hundreds of times over the years. She is the best kept secret in the psychedelic world. She also relaxes the muscles as she is a vasodilatory agent, dilating (open) the blood vessels. Follow my thread here with pictures on a ZERO NAUSEA cactus tea, I no longer extract mescaline, as I find the tea I've used over the many years to be far simpler, simple: https://www.shroomery.org/forum You have to real careful if you do extract mescaline and not leave any solvent residue behind, always grinding the resulting hcl product in a mortar and pestal with dry anhydrous cold acetone, and rinse with cold dry acetone over a filter with vacuum applied, as solvent residue is toxic and results in bad lingering after effects to the brain and muscles. It can sometimes take days or months to recover if you injest toxic solvent residues. Elixirel said: Quote:Quality zinc dust can be found at a multitude of science stores. When you filter using a vaccum filter with vacuum applied over a #101 round micron filter disc, you eliminate any traces of dirt, dust or heavy metals. Yes, you can use zinc grains instead. This is the best book to learn organic lab chemistry with pics: Here are some close up pics of the resulting very pure THH I've used for countless years: https://www.shroomery.org/forum Pure 300mg THH can be seen in weigher at upper top of photos. So glad to see you my friends djbabyjesus, icon. I have not been posting on time as I'm helping my wife recover from vertigo and vestibular migraines that affected her inner ear as a result of an ear infection she contracted back in June when we were sitting in a "too hot" hot tub at a vacation rental on the beach. Her ear is fine now but it left her with lingering balance problems, migraines and tinnitus. She had this condition years ago and it took her almost a year to recover. She is the love of my life. Needless to say, we stay away from hot tubs now, breeding grounds for bacteria anyways. Other topics: Alchemy chemistry fun: Compilation of pan cyan or panaeolus cyanescens or copeandia cyanescens trip reports, crown jewel of mushrooms: https://www.shroomery.org/forum How to extract 2.4g dmt from 170g bark using a 2 Liter erlenmeyer flask (heat and break resistant), post #15: https://mycotopia.net/topic/111 Tetrahydroharmine or THH and how to make her, Caapi visionary feminine teaching spirit: https://www.shroomery.org/forum Zero nausea HPBCD or aloe vera enhanced penetration Ayahuasca capsules: https://www.shroomery.org/forum Cactus tea before waterpark to beat the heat: https://www.shroomery.org/forum How to make LSI or Lysergic Acid Isovaleraldemide (Greek Eleusis ancient LSD) at home from morning glory seeds (the priests used non poisonous claviceps paspali which grows on paspalum grass adjacent to Eleusis present day in the famous Rarian plane, same alkaloid profile as the sacred Mesoamerican morning glory): https://www.shroomery.org/forum Make your own 1-acetaldehyde LSD at home from LSD, very similar to ALD-52 or the real orange sunshine: https://www.shroomery.org/forum LSD high dose trip: 20 minute visionary visit from a dead Aztec Shaman: https://www.shroomery.org/forum On my very first pan cyan mushroom trip, where I went to a house music club tripping with friends, I viewed laser light patterns on the floor of the club, where the women danced, I believe the mushrooms showed me how to form never before seen patterns, as went I went home, over the next several months, I built my own 6 channel audio generator that when these combined frequencies (3 on x channel and 3 on y channel) were sent to a laser x and y galvanometer, were able to produce brand new laser patterns such as collapsing circles and spinning lines 360 degrees which looked beyond belief in the fog as 3-d, I then went on to market these laser scanners to clubs on the strip, and they were a huge success...I owe this creative invention to the mushrooms which sparked new creative energies, way beyond thought, from a higher source where the mushrooms tap into. My love for house music stems back to those days of visiting many clubs as an entertainment laser lighting fixture creator and programmer and making friends with the many DJ's. Over the summer myself and friends were lifeguards at the local water park. But on the weekends we went to parties or house music clubs. https://soundcloud.com/discover https://www.friskyradio.com/ https://jaytechmusic.podbean.co Edited by tregar (09/05/23 01:47 PM)
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Tregar, thanks for being awesome.
Zinc powder appears to be a controlled substance or nobody sells it mail order because it is flammable/ reactive. Zinc grains can be found... around 3mm in size... should I just use as much grain as possible and wait longer, and just do the UV test to know when the reduction is finished?? could the grains be re-used for this? -------------------- "Psyche" means soul, not mind
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Good to see you again Elixirel. Yes just weigh out 40g zinc grains if u cannot get zinc dust, and use 40g per 10.5 grams harmaline, dip a cue tip into spinning solution around 1.5 hour later and swab it on a paper plate, hold plate under uv light, if smear glows light blue then ur reaction is done. Any green in smear means u need to keep spinning a bit longer. I have never re-used the dust or grains, although it is theoretically possible, it's so cheap, I've never re-used.
The dmt nexus has a 30 page thread on thh in the team projects collaboration subforum, and still at the end nobody has figured it out, I posted how to make it at the end under user "ava" but my post was deleted, and this is coming from a long time chemist...many times if u post about tetrahydroharmine there in the welcome discussion, ur post will be erased by any of the moderators as they have an aversion to it among other subjects like hpbcd, ur post will automatically be erased, they love to delete posts that relate to new ideas or that are progressive, sad situation. If you attempt to link to any of my chemistry related threads from the nexus, I've noticed that person's posts will automatically be deleted at the nexus (I've observed this multiple times), they appear to be jealous or suspicious of anyone who has figured out the THH procedure. If you follow the posts there on HPBCD or THH, you will notice deleted posts by a person named ava (myself) who had figured out the procedures, all of her posts were deleted. They also love to delete members such as myself (tregar) or even 69ron from long ago. It's no telling how many members they have deleted over the years. Look up any of my old posts at the nexus and you will see Bill Cipher even attached bully like statements at the end of all my posts, his hatred of all things THH or HPBCD is quite extreme. They appear to confuse 69ron with myself which is also untrue rumor. It all started with a certain moderator (Bill cipher) who confused myself with 69ron, then trained all of the moderators to delete posts whenever they wanted. Just because 69ron had figured out how to make THH long before I ever did, when I came along around 7 years later, they though that since I had the procedure down, that I must automatically be 69ron as well, which is untrue. Why they dislike 69ron I have no idea, but it shows a certain form of elitism there which is quite frankly ugly. Just like the saying "ignorance is bliss". The policy of only allowing people into the forum who the flawed moderator or man chooses instead of allowing all to post of their own free accord is also a form of elitism. Edited by tregar (09/10/23 09:47 AM)
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Thanks- I thought grains will provide a much reduced surface area compared to dust so much more zinc and time would be needed?
The Nexus is wrong on many levels and their "teks" are garbage. The whole site should not exist if people had any sense. DMT is not for dummies, it is not internal home cinema, it can bring serious outlook-on-life changes that are not necessarily able to be integrated by many people... Also, that site is most likely run/owned by less than integral characters- this is what my de-central intelligence tells me
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Elixiril said:
Quote:Yes, it's possible a bit more grains and time may be needed using the grains, you are absolutely right, just use your cue tip UV test to tell when done. Yes, downwardsfromzero and I used to be best friends on that site, working together on threads...and then Bill Cipher struck and ruined the place. All it takes is for one corrupt individual to ruin the whole site. Edited by tregar (09/15/23 05:23 AM)
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Receptorome study: how traditional Ayahuasca & snuffs differ from dmt:
https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/ New discovery: the recently discovered adrenoglomerulotropine (a hormone of the pineal gland, otherwise known as 6-Methoxytetrahydroharman) is an isomer of tetrahydroharmine-->2nd largest alkaloid, found in caapi. Caapi was said by the Indians to have Telepathine qualities as Ayahuasca was said to facilitate telepathic communication among tribal members. All about THH: https://mycotopia.net/topic/111
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Note: I've talked to a friend of mine who went to South America recently, he had visions but said the insight and healing was much less than he expected, a pic of his caapi revealed it to be much smaller than older caapi, it looked quite young. Younger caapi has much less THH than older caapi, THH is related to ibogaine and is largely responsible for the insights, healing, messages and teaching from the vine.
Older Caapi is becoming close to extinct as harvesters have to go further and deeper into the Jungle...hence the over hundred spiritual centers in South America are having to harvest younger cappi with much less tetrahydroharmine, here is an alternative to help conserve while it grows over many years: This post shows how to make THH. TIHKAL THH entry also achieved 75% yield but used exotic hard to get chemicals only a chemist can obtain. This post also shows how to dip a cue tip in vinegar to wet, take up a bit of the THH, smear on a paper plate to check the blue glow under blacklight to make sure it is pure. Any green in the glow means you still have un-converted harmaline, but follow instructions and you won't have any unconverted. Always check any THH you buy, as several reports of the chinese made liftmode THH a year ago have turned up to not glow pure blue, meaning they had amounts of the harmaline in them which causes sedation, nausea, dizziness at even small amounts which can last for most of the day as the half life of harmaline is long. Off topic, but... Have you ever looked into a crystal while tripping? I only ask this as there were 3 occasions when I experienced this. 1. The first time was when myself, 2 other people (2 other males, 1 other female) or the four of us took panaeolus cyanescens, we walked from hotel room down a couple blocks to the street with house music clubs, we began to trip while walking, shortly before we arrived at the undergound club. A store along the way was a crystal shop, it was closed, but we stopped to gaze into all the crystals that were hanging in the store, when I looked inside, I noticed alien heads formed in all the crystals, they looked exactly like grey aliens, tiny mouth and large black eyes, the mouth was animated on all the heads (closing and opening), these heads appeared very alive and looked like they were all staring back at me, as if tranferring information back to me, they could clearly see me. 2. Another time was when I took a low 300mg dose of mescaline hcl along with a couple hits of acid, peared into a crystal sitting on a tabletop, and was able to view inside the crystal an actual landscape full of horses and animals of all kind, these animals were all animated and going about their normal business, it was beyond 4k and in color. 3. A third time was when I took acid alone and looked into a few crystals suspended from a ceiling. All of the crystals formed female human heads, and were all animated, looking back at me, human heads of different women, quite beautiful. They were completely alive, scary and beautiful at the same time as it was so shocking. I watched an episode of ancient aliens once which was all about crystals and giant rocks said to have embedded in them holographic information that spans all of time, perhaps these crystals give off a certain vibrational energy that is able to tap into the Akashic record of the universe where all of past, present, future is known...I have no idea... ...but I do know that when natives take Ayahuasca with caapi which contains tetrahydroharmine (2nd highest alkaloid in caapi, in same family as ibogaine), they are also able to see this infinite hall or store of records. When I take 300mg high doses of THH or tetrahydroharmine, I experience a pleasant frequency vibration thru entire body that last for hours, as if the body is tuned to a higher frequency like a radio, where I see not only heavy tracers with open eyes and shimmering and glowing of all things with open eyes, but also dream like visions for hours at a time with eyes closed, things like the interior decorations of palaces, flying over landscapes like a bird and views of history thru all of time like the mideval period, I've seen hundreds of such visions in use of THH over two decades, when low 30mg DMT dose is added, the visions of course become colored from their normal green color only, and patterning on animals for example show their respective colors like birds for example. Rainbow Obsidian is said to be the stone used by Nostradamus to foresee future events. Pic: Rainbow Obsidian Any thoughts on this phenomenon? -------------------------------- --> To those who experience anxiety on shrooms...If you take shrooms along with 70mg of pure thh or tetrahydroharmine, not only does it eliminate anxiety, add crystal clear clarity, increased euphoria, but the shroom trip is extended by an hour +, done it countless times myself, absolutely incredible gorgeous experience. Thh is a psychedelic sri not maoi found in cappi. Damn near perfect psychedelic combo....other than that mescaline is all ready the perfect psychedelic, drank cactus tea over 150 times over many years. I love that it lasts incredibly long allready. Sabnock said: Quote:Sabnock is a legend, read countless posts from him and he is indeed correct. Bardy said: Quote:Yes, that information is incredibly vague or unclear. The sentence is very vague in that it does not tell you it would take a severe overdose of THH to inhibit MAO-A. From Interprise chemical: Quote:https://interpriseusa.com/produ Keep in mind, the lower the nM, the higher or stronger the activity. Reading those numbers, you would have to take 30 times the normal dosage of 100mg THH, or 30 x 100 = 3,000mg THH just to equal rima activity of 100mg of harmaline, and it takes at least 100mg of harmaline to activate DMT. That much THH would be an overdose and most likely kill a person. My max is 300mg of THH. It takes around 150mg of harmine to activate DMT, that would require 5500 mg of THH to do the same. --> If you remember 69ron, I was not around when he used to post, as I was at the mescaline king forum thenook.org for at least a decade (now extinct) he claimed that THH alone would activate DMT, this is completely un-true, this earned him or her a very bad reputation as people found out after his writing of this, that no such thing was possible. Bardy said: Quote:When you compare 4.3% harmine and 5.6% harmaline to 0.1% THH, you end up with next to nothing in the seeds as THH. There is absolutely no significant amount of THH in rue seeds, period...but you can make THH from harmaline in 1.5 hour. Even as a chemist, I spent months trying to make THH from harmaline without using exotic chemicals like TIHKAL, after months of failure, I went into a trance and was given a vision of how to complete the process I was stuck at using an over the counter chemical and explain how to make it simply in link below, I wanted humanity to know how to do this, as I feel it is extremely important. Hallucinogenic Plants in the Mediterranean Countries, Ioannis D. Passos, Maria Mironidou-Tzouveleki, in Neuropathology of Drug Addictions and Substance Misuse, 2016: Quote:https://www.sciencedirect.com/t Older Caapi is becoming close to extinct as harvesters have to go further and deeper into the Jungle...hence the over hundred spiritual centers in South America are having to harvest younger cappi with much less tetrahydroharmine, here in link below is an alternative to help conserve while it grows over many years: Traditional true Ayahuasca has always been (1) Caapi by itself or (2) Caapi with psychotria viridis or Diplopterys cabrerana. 12 reasons THH rocks and how to make her here: https://www.shroomery.org/forum Nillion, I'm not a vendor nor ever been, you might be thinking of 69ron, I am not 69ron. Lifelong chemist and researcher. Anyways, I cracked the code on how to make THH at home in only 1.5 hour, no exotic chemicals needed like in TIHKAL, more on this below. Bardy said: Quote:I'm a life long chemist, and know my chemistry, THH is 100% SRI and not a significant RIMA at all. Harmine is a RIMA, so is harmaline. THH is the 2nd highest alkaloid in caapi, in same family as ibogaine with a 10.5 hour half life with peak at 5.25 hours. Be careful if you buy THH from china (liftmode) as there have been reports of it not staining blue under UV (like real THH) but green, indicating harmaline is still in it. Dab a cue tip in vinegar, then take up a bit of your THH, smear on a paper plate, hold under uv light, if it glows blue you got pure thh, if any yellow or green it's contaminated with harmaline. Freedom said: Quote: Freedom, You will find no reports of THH + mushrooms or THH + LSD cause this is brand new cutting edge, but I've been doing it for many years, gorgeous experience, it's like taking a low dose of mescaline with you shrooms or acid. THH or tetrahydroharmine is the best kept secret in the psychedlic world: THH and how to make her (along with many trip reports of 300mg THH by itself): https://www.shroomery.org/forum More of my research (10 topics), on the cutting edge, and why dmt should always be taken with thh as found in true Ayahuasca: https://mycotopia.net/topic/111 2 minute formed HPBCD DMT liquid very bioavailable sublingually under tongue & outperforms DMT salts orally by many factors in personal trials, combo with tetrahydroharmine, Ayahuasca. Part 0: 12 reasons pure THH or tetrahydroharmine rocks (this post #1 in middle) Part 1: HPBCD complexed DMT experimental dosage, effects & duration, over 44 sublingual DMT experiences over a year's time (this post #1 at bottom). Many times stronger than oral DMT. Updated 1-1-2022. Part 2: Receptorome chart & explanation Part 3: Tetrahydroharmine (THH) effects --> Part 4: Tetrahydroharmine receptorome similarities to mescaline; potentiates cactus & safety note Part 5: Chemist Patrick Arnold's HPBCD prohormones & bloodwork studies part 6: Dr. Narang: "with sublingual" or "under the tongue" better than buccal, gingival & palatal, absorption of drugs through the sublingual route is 3 to 10 times greater than oral route and is surpassed by hypodermic injection. part 7: a little bit on my 70 Ayahuasca experiences, doses & visions part 8: New research: Morning glory contains 5 stimulating LSD-like drugs, soluble only in wine/alcohol, only sparingly soluble in water part 9: 20 minute visionary visit from a dead Aztec Shaman part 10: One way to make pure tetrahydroharmine part 11: From the archives of DMT world: How to easily extract 2.3g DMT from 170g bark using a 2 liter Erlenmeyer flask part 12: Out of print writings on the Divine Plant of the Incas, coca leaf visions...and writings on strong euphoria from coca leaf tea bags soaked in wine, forming orally active cocaethylene in the liver, discovered in 1994. Explains the popularity of Vin Mariani (coca leaf soaked wine) with both popes, Thomas Edison and countless celebrities. part 13: THH + mushrooms report from JKW. part 14: Multiple encounters with death & depression. Northerner said: Quote:Thank you Northerner. I've been taking dmt with THH for many, many years, here is a compilation of my 50 + trip reports with many pics of the 150mg harmine + 70-300mg THH + 90mg dmt true Ayahuasca capsules: https://www.shroomery.org/forum Since harmine has a half life of from 1 to 3 hours, I redose at the 1.5 hour to 2 hour point using only 75mg harmine + 90mg dmt in a single capsule again for a +4 moderately strong experience, as 1/2 the harmine dose is still active from the first dose. You don't have to add anymore THH since THH has a half life of 10.5 hours, peaking at around 5 hours. You can re dose as many times as you want, continues to work strongly. This gives me a total 4 hour strong trip that is easy to handle, with hours of afterglow. Going beyond 120mg DMT is not recommended, see my trip reports on page 2. I recommend crushing the dmt freebase into fresh aloe vera gel from fresh leaf (*almart carries fresh leaf in grocery section or buy on line, store excess gel in freezer as it only lasts 1 week in fridge, defrost more when needed) only as the polysaccharides in the fresh leaf increase the penetration of the dmt into the intestines by many factors, for an experience that can easily reach +4 to +5 and is all encompassing and super colorful just like real Jungle Ayahuasca, I've noticed no difference in strength between these zero nausea Ayahuasca capsules and real Ayahuasca brew I've prepared from caapi and Hawaiian psychotria. THH + mushrooms report from JKW: Quote: Edited by tregar (01/21/24 09:44 AM)
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this is some super interesting stuff!
