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Re: Definitely not Russian propaganda or conspiracy theories [Re: Joh.Ke] 1
#28419286 - 08/03/23 07:38 PM (5 months, 22 days ago) |
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Not sure what you are trying to say.
Is asking Russia to interfere in the election a crime or not? If yes, then Trump should go to jail. And if he didn't go to jail for it, then it means he isn't guilty of the crime.
Yeah, just like OJ didn't kill Nicole.
If Trump truly is guilty, and it's proven on such a grand scale, how come he hasn't lost all credibility?
Lol, he lost that years ago. Only retards believe anything Trump says.
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Re: Definitely not Russian propaganda or conspiracy theories [Re: Joh.Ke]
#28419290 - 08/03/23 07:40 PM (5 months, 22 days ago) |
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Not sure what you are trying to say.
Is asking Russia to interfere in the election a crime or not? If yes, then Trump should go to jail. And if he didn't go to jail for it, then it means he isn't guilty of the crime.
The government chooses not to prosecute all the time. Especially when the defendant is the president and is immune from prosecution.
That doesn't seem right. Anybody who broke the law should face punishment. Doesn't matter if he is a regular Joe or the Potus.
That's reality, though. Sorry you don't like it
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Re: Definitely not Russian propaganda or conspiracy theories [Re: Enlil] 1
#28419311 - 08/03/23 07:45 PM (5 months, 22 days ago) |
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The government chooses not to prosecute all the time. Especially when the defendant is the president and is immune from prosecution.
That doesn't seem right. Anybody who broke the law should face punishment. Doesn't matter if he is a regular Joe or the Potus.
That's reality, though. Sorry you don't like it
I didn't say I didn't like it. Why do you talk to me this way though? I have only been in this forum very recently and you seem to dislike me already. Why?
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Re: Definitely not Russian propaganda or conspiracy theories [Re: gww]
#28419386 - 08/03/23 08:13 PM (5 months, 22 days ago) |
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gww said: Why does putin have oligarchs and do they care about what the populace might vote for? Why do kids believe in the Easter bunny? I would say he lost credibility, he only got one term. Justice is slow but that might be coming as well and we will see how your contention holds up as in america it will be 12 citizens like me that get to decide that. Just like other citizens like me were on a grand jury and decided he needed to be charged. There will always be a few crazies that will love him like some people love serial killers and marry them in jail. But you really know why before you ask, right? Cheers gww
He absolutely lost all credibility. The right just turns a blind eye and plays stupid now.
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Re: Definitely not Russian propaganda or conspiracy theories [Re: Joh.Ke]
#28419397 - 08/03/23 08:17 PM (5 months, 22 days ago) |
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For asking Russia to interfere. Sounds like it should be a crime.
You should lobby congress to make it a crime.
Holy shit! Asking a foreign country to interfere in an election is not a crime in your country?
It might be, but his defense will be that he was engaged in political rhetoric and it was not an actual request.
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Re: Definitely not Russian propaganda or conspiracy theories [Re: koods] 1
#28419411 - 08/03/23 08:23 PM (5 months, 22 days ago) |
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The name of the game is throw as much plausible deniability on it as you can.
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Re: Definitely not Russian propaganda or conspiracy theories [Re: Joh.Ke]
#28419414 - 08/03/23 08:24 PM (5 months, 22 days ago) |
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The government chooses not to prosecute all the time. Especially when the defendant is the president and is immune from prosecution.
That doesn't seem right. Anybody who broke the law should face punishment. Doesn't matter if he is a regular Joe or the Potus.
That's reality, though. Sorry you don't like it
I didn't say I didn't like it. Why do you talk to me this way though? I have only been in this forum very recently and you seem to dislike me already. Why?
I don't know you enough to like or dislike you.
And you implied that you didn't like it when you said it "doesn't seem right" and that it "should" be some other way.
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Re: Definitely not Russian propaganda or conspiracy theories [Re: Enlil]
#28419418 - 08/03/23 08:25 PM (5 months, 22 days ago) |
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That doesn't seem right. Anybody who broke the law should face punishment. Doesn't matter if he is a regular Joe or the Potus.
That's reality, though. Sorry you don't like it
I didn't say I didn't like it. Why do you talk to me this way though? I have only been in this forum very recently and you seem to dislike me already. Why?
I don't know you enough to like or dislike you.
Ah, I see. That's cool.
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Re: Definitely not Russian propaganda or conspiracy theories [Re: Joh.Ke]
#28419749 - 08/03/23 10:23 PM (5 months, 21 days ago) |
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For asking Russia to interfere. Sounds like it should be a crime.
He just said they should do it, but no evidence camps up that he or his campaign collided with Russia when they did it.
Some of trumps associated were caught foe obstructing justice and Trump pardoned them after purjering themselves, but make of that what you will. The case didn't conclude trump was guilty. But back then financials would've been a more fruitful case.
That said, the newest indictments on classified papers and election stuff will be interesting.
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Re: Definitely not Russian propaganda or conspiracy theories [Re: sudly]
#28419777 - 08/03/23 10:39 PM (5 months, 21 days ago) |
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Falcon always claims there was no evidence of coordination between Russia and the Trump campaign, and it is certainly true that they didn’t have evidence to prove coordination. Based on this, he thinks the investigation was illegitimate, but he will never admit that there was plenty of probable cause to investigate the possibility of coordination.
The mueller report also explicitly states that its investigation was hindered by witnesses who lied and a lack of cooperation. In particular, it was the investigation of manafort that hit a dead end.
And there really is nothing more corrupt in my opinion than Trump pardoning everyone who was prosecuted for lying to mueller investigators, while letting those who cooperated rot in jail.
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Re: Definitely not Russian propaganda or conspiracy theories [Re: koods]
#28419980 - 08/04/23 03:04 AM (5 months, 21 days ago) |
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Did Trump withhold defense budget funding from Ukraine in an attempt to strong arm zelenski into making a public statement saying they were investigating his political opponent ? Yes. It's on tape, Trump admitted it was him but just called it a perfect. There's records of us withholding the funds until the day the story broke and magically we released the funding. Was it a crime? Yes.
" On the day House managers transmitted two articles of impeachment to the Senate, the Government Accountability Office, a nonpartisan public auditor, reported that President Trump violated the Impoundment Control Act by unilaterally withholding $214 million of legislatively appropriated Defense Department aid for Ukraine without obtaining authorization from Congress. “Faithful execution of the law does not permit the president to substitute his own policy priorities for those that Congress has enacted into law,” the Government Accountability Office concluded."
A violation of the Impoundment Control Act is not a minor technicality. At the height of the Watergate scandal in 1974, Congress passed the law to prevent a rogue president like Richard Nixon from withholding lawfully appropriated funds. A president who seeks to put a hold on such funds for policy purposes must transmit to both the House and Senate “a special message” specifying “the amount of budget authority which he proposes to be rescinded or which is to be so reserved” and “the reasons why the budget authority should be rescinded or is to be so reserved.”
But let's have a little history lesson, Nixon was caught essentially spying on his political opponent. Nixon was impeached just once and resigned instead of further damaging the presidential office by lying and downplaying it and saying he did nothing wrong.
What happens when you have a president that realizes the worst that can happen is that he gets impeached and doesn't have to resign because there's presidential immunities? As long as he was president all he had to do was make his supporters believe he was innocent which is the one thing he's brilliant at.
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