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Sub-Easy
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I got anxiety after I did them.
First time really feeling anxiety in that sort of way, but I think it just manifest itself in other ways before shrooms. Ways that I was used to my whole life and they just seemed like normal like how it is for everyone I assumed.
I understand why I was getting anxiety, and understood that it was a good thing.
And I was right, and it worked out wonderfully for me in the end.
But I really had to think hard about how that all was working psychologically, before I understood what was happening, and I had to really pay attention to exactly what I was experiencing.
I also had an experience that kicked my anxiety into overdrive. But I had been feeling it after the shrooms, and before my experience made it much worse.
I understood what the processes were that was causing it, and I knew it was something that was good for me.
So try to understand what your mind is doing, and also keep looking for other causes that are also contributing.
The SSRI's that they put in cigarettes was part of the problem, for example.
It's going to take a year or two to process any really bad things that happen in your life also, so it takes time before you find relief.
But it's something you should put your mind to understanding, and working and growing through.
It's a process.
Also, I'm sure all that nice, free healthcare over there doesn't hurt, govvv-na!
We don't call the ambulance in the US, unless we are missing a body part, because they are doing to charge you an arm and a leg, and you might live, but you will wish you were dead.
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ShiroiTora
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Re: Shrooms for anxiety or no? [Re: Rache2020]
#28423707 - 08/06/23 11:10 PM (5 months, 19 days ago) |
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Thank you, I'll check that link out later. Just on the ashwagandha-I looked into it a little bit and seems it has an effect on dreaming as well? I'm super interested in lucid dreaming so if it helps with that (or vivid dreams) that will be an absolute bonus. Did you happen to notice any difference in your dream recall? I'm defo gonna order some now anyway.
Now that you mention it, there was a time I was having pretty wild and far-out dreams, but I figured it was just because my stress was reduced(probably works that way), I didn't realize it was a lucid dreaming aid. That being said it is orders of magnitude weaker than Silene capensis for dreams, if you want lucid dreams that is my root of choice.
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That's one I did research on in the past. I don't know if you're aware, but it's been tested and confirmed to have MAOI effects - might make it pretty effective for increasing energy, but of course it might have a potential reaction with other substances.
Given what you say about using rue though, I know you're more than familiar with MAOIs. I'd be curous to hear if you notice a MAOI effect it, comparable to the psychoactivity of rue.
No this is a complete and welcome surprise to me According to the paper it works for both MAO-A and -B substrates, so it's definitely going to be different from Rue which is only a RIMA. I'm gonna have to maybe not take rue and rhodiola on the same day, as that might have some interactions. The MAO-B inhibition might prove advantageous for dopaminergic concentrations, either way it should be much more stimulating than rue in that regard. I'm just having trouble figuring out whether the MAOIs in rhodiola are reversible or not, but from what I've read the effects are reported to not be cumulative over weeks so I'm assuming(hoping) they are in fact reversible.
Thanks for this juicy info CA I'll be sure to let you know about my experience with rhodiola in a couple of weeks
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Rache2020
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Re: Shrooms for anxiety or no? [Re: Sub-Easy]
#28424780 - 08/07/23 07:07 PM (5 months, 18 days ago) |
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Sub-Easy said: I got anxiety after I did them.
First time really feeling anxiety in that sort of way, but I think it just manifest itself in other ways before shrooms. Ways that I was used to my whole life and they just seemed like normal like how it is for everyone I assumed.
I understand why I was getting anxiety, and understood that it was a good thing.
And I was right, and it worked out wonderfully for me in the end.
But I really had to think hard about how that all was working psychologically, before I understood what was happening, and I had to really pay attention to exactly what I was experiencing.
I also had an experience that kicked my anxiety into overdrive. But I had been feeling it after the shrooms, and before my experience made it much worse.
I understood what the processes were that was causing it, and I knew it was something that was good for me.
So try to understand what your mind is doing, and also keep looking for other causes that are also contributing.
The SSRI's that they put in cigarettes was part of the problem, for example.
It's going to take a year or two to process any really bad things that happen in your life also, so it takes time before you find relief.
But it's something you should put your mind to understanding, and working and growing through.
It's a process.
Also, I'm sure all that nice, free healthcare over there doesn't hurt, govvv-na!
We don't call the ambulance in the US, unless we are missing a body part, because they are doing to charge you an arm and a leg, and you might live, but you will wish you were dead.
Glad you were able to figure out what was causing your anxiety and how to deal with it, that's promising. It just feels like now I know what anxiety feels like it's just going to keep happening. I can never go back to the carefree days I used to have or be like I used to. Good advice though, something to explore in therapy maybe.
Yeh we're lucky to have the NHS although it's not great right now-crazy waiting lists etc. also my anxiety is kind of NHS related with two of my family members refusing to ever go into the local hospital again after some bad experiences. That meant they would die at home which was not an experience I was prepared for-you can't really prepare for it. I've accepted death I just didn't expect to have to watch it that up close. I never would've been put in that position if the hospital had taken better care of my family members. Sometimes it feels like life is one long guilt trip. I'm sure everyone must have regrets when a family member dies, I seem to have more than most. A lot of blame and guilt, and now anxiety as well-fun times!
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Now that you mention it, there was a time I was having pretty wild and far-out dreams, but I figured it was just because my stress was reduced(probably works that way), I didn't realize it was a lucid dreaming aid. That being said it is orders of magnitude weaker than Silene capensis for dreams, if you want lucid dreams that is my root of choice.
Very interesting thanks! I can't wait to try it for two reasons now, surprised I haven't come across it before. Silene Capensis yeh that's on my list as well-I took something a few years ago but I think that was Calea something which I don't remember doing anything much for dream recall. Although maybe I didn't take it enough times as it was so bitter tasting. I must've tried almost everything else at this point! I wonder if I couldn't get hold of Silene Capensis before or if I have in fact tried it at some point, hmm I'll have another look for it.
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CreonAntigone
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Re: Shrooms for anxiety or no? [Re: Rache2020]
#28425373 - 08/08/23 07:46 AM (5 months, 17 days ago) |
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Had the craziest dream last night - and I'm a person who almost never remembers their dreams. It conincided not just with me quitting weed recently (as I've posted about) but I had also taken a large dose of ashwagandha extract. I went out like a light for eight hours, surprisingly considering it's been harder without the weed.
I don't know if the dream was weirder than your 'average' dream, but it was very weird for me to remember damn near all of it. I hadn't remembered any other dreams the past few weeks, weed or not, so I gotta think ashwagandha played a role.
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Nice, CA.
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Rache2020
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Ah that's great! Can't wait to get some and try it out for myself now.
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