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The Seth Books
#28411704 - 07/28/23 01:37 PM (5 months, 28 days ago) |
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I have been very influenced by channeled texts for some years now, including the Pathwork Lectures, Paul Selig's books, and A Course in Miracles. I recently came across the Seth books, by Jane Roberts (Seth is "an energy personality essence" without physical form, as he puts it, channeled through Jane Roberts in the '70s).
Has anyone else dug into this material? Looks like there are a number of books, and I'm just starting Seth Speaks which is the first formal book in the series. I think what draws me to this series right now is its emphasis on breaking down and analyzing reality itself, and exploring the nature of various dimensions of being, in contrast with the other channeled texts I mentioned which focus on personal growth. The Seth material seems more lighthearted and joyful in its discoveries. I'm excited!
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Quote from the first chapter:
"I hope to take you on a tour through the levels of reality that are available to you, and to guide you on a journey through the dimensions of your own psychological structure."
Yes, please.
"The self that you know is but one fragment of your entire identity. These fragment selves are not strung together, however, like beads of a string. They are more like the various skins of an onion, or segments of an orange, all connected through the one vitality and growing out into various realities while springing from the same source."
-------------------- "Things are true that I forget, but no one taught that to me yet." A disembodied-re-embodied consciousness be-ing (With all the accoutrements.)
Edited by Blue Cthulhu (07/28/23 02:01 PM)
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Blue Cthulhu said: I have been very influenced by channeled texts for some years now, including the Pathwork Lectures, Paul Selig's books, and A Course in Miracles...
I found Pathwork material interesting. I don't think I studied them completely tho.
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Me too, I read some of it, and watched videos. I like the emphasis on being as paramount and valuable beyond regardless, and liked the humorous yet stern voice of the channeled.
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Re: The Seth Books [Re: syncro]
#28411819 - 07/28/23 04:26 PM (5 months, 28 days ago) |
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Yes the humor is refreshing!
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I inadvertently came across some controversy around Seth and Jane's thing which I wasn't aware of but not surprised as it's not uncommon around such figures.
Scanning material I noticed this: "Source cannot be divorced from content, practically speaking..."
They are talking about finding (in)consistency in the details of Seth's identity which I didn't go into. But it goes to the more general question, does source matter in a message?
Most anyone can speak wise words, not making judgements, but if a message of truth, even if used with other intentions, gets to ears that hear, they can pick up that seed no matter who dropped it. Just a thought.
Although channeling can be rife with doubt, this is why I try to judge only the message for my pleasure.
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Re: The Seth Books [Re: syncro]
#28412526 - 07/29/23 08:24 AM (5 months, 27 days ago) |
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Exactly. It does not really matter who it comes from, whether a non-physical spirit or a human mind, if it rings with deep truth and helps you to evolve and see the world differently.
That being said... the Pathwork Lectures, Paul Selig's books, and A Course in Miracles all have an internal consistency that is uncanny. Selig's books have a bunch of vibratory transmissions, as well. A Course in Miracles has a 365 day workbook that will turn your mind inside out if done with sincerity.
I can't yet speak to the Seth Books, but based on what I've gleaned so far I would say that Seth himself is multidimensional and offers different facets of his personality at different times.
None of the above mentioned channelers have any evidence of fraud or overt signs of cult-making or narcissistic manipulation of others, as far as I'm aware. Pathwork did have a community grow around it that exists to this day in a loose structure. The authors have certainly made some money off of their publications - how much, I'm not sure. But I'm not aware of any dark skeletons in the closet that have come out (and these materials have been around since the 70s, with the exception of Selig who is current). To the contrary, each of the channelers seems to be/have been quite humble.
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Re: The Seth Books [Re: syncro]
#28412528 - 07/29/23 08:24 AM (5 months, 27 days ago) |
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A reason I'm saying it is from reading the Yoga Vasistha which is part of the Ramayana, both in which even demons, asuras, turn and go to wisdom.
The boss asura himself, Ravana, gained his powers through very long attendance to the form of Shiva. He knows things of enlightenment, or is heavily empowered by them, and happens to be a very bad character in the texts.
He doesn't turn to good up to his death, but is a treasure house of wisdom nevertheless through his Shiva sadhana. One who can sift with common sense could through his knowledge go to Shiva. All that is needed anyway in such views is the name/associated mantra, but there is great richness in the sadhanas. (I've heard there are those who considered Ravana as not bad, that the story as told is a sham. If it ain't one thing, it's another.)
Vibhishena, asura and brother of Ravana, had long turned to being a devoted yogi working for the good.
Another example from the Vasistha. There were asura warriors that were made to be invincible. It was done by instilling in them knowledge of consciousness, rid of egoic notions, and they were invincible until it was discovered and the work was taken on to raise egotism as it were, in them.
Sorry to go off topic. Just in case Seth and Jane are asuras. lol
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^ I saw some reports of Seth behaving badly in the body of Jane, not really caring to indulge. Seth did imply in his words, though wonderful things, something like, "AS SCANDALOUS AS POSSBILLLLEAAA."
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Re: The Seth Books [Re: syncro]
#28412865 - 07/29/23 12:48 PM (5 months, 27 days ago) |
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Interesting. He does seem to have a mischievous quality to him. If he did turn out to be evil and exploiting humans’ quest for knowledge in order to subdue and use us, it would be quite a plot twist. Or are you suggesting such beings could give wisdom freely and without it having any strings attached, something aside from their evil doings, or that they are multifaceted with both good and evil qualities?
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Yes I just mean that no matter what they are doing, a seeking mind can make use of inspiring words, following their own nature.
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