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Re: No one is gonna talk about the UFO Hearing in Congress? [Re: thetruthsohelp]
    #28419144 - 08/03/23 06:04 PM (5 months, 22 days ago)

I saw a video with AOC talking about it. Her interest was essentially nothing to do with aliens but more about cracking down on secrecy with how the military spends it's money and corruption with defense contractors.


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Re: No one is gonna talk about the UFO Hearing in Congress? [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #28419150 - 08/03/23 06:07 PM (5 months, 22 days ago)

Has anyone even read the latest legislation in the works on this topic? Its pretty damn, well, explosive and specific in its scope. If there was nothing to this, why would this have even been drafted? If there were nothing to these claims, if there was no evidence being given behind the scenes then nothing would have come of this, yet here we are. Congressional hearings and specific legistlation being drafted to reign in these 'supposed' SAP's. We will see.


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Re: No one is gonna talk about the UFO Hearing in Congress? [Re: thetruthsohelp]
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Re: No one is gonna talk about the UFO Hearing in Congress? [Re: thetruthsohelp]
    #28419155 - 08/03/23 06:11 PM (5 months, 22 days ago)

It's cute that you think congresspeople aren't just dumb cunts with suits on


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Re: No one is gonna talk about the UFO Hearing in Congress? *DELETED* [Re: feevers]
    #28419158 - 08/03/23 06:12 PM (5 months, 22 days ago)

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Re: No one is gonna talk about the UFO Hearing in Congress? [Re: thetruthsohelp]
    #28419162 - 08/03/23 06:16 PM (5 months, 22 days ago)

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It's cute that you think congresspeople aren't just dumb cunts with suits on




I think they are human just like the rest of us, and I think you are channeling trumpism right now.

"Everyone is a dumb cunt apart from meism"

Good luck with that philosophy.






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Re: UFO Hearing in Congress? [Re: thetruthsohelp]
    #28419174 - 08/03/23 06:23 PM (5 months, 22 days ago)

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You're presuming it's illegal to withhold that information.



Thats what the witness said, but you are moving the goalposts now like a true lawyer when trapped by facts. Thats not what you said, your presumption was in your own head and I refuted what you said and now you are obscufating as usual. :facepalm:



Unless the witness is an accepted legal expert, his opinion carries no weight


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Re: UFO Hearing in Congress? [Re: Enlil]
    #28419179 - 08/03/23 06:29 PM (5 months, 22 days ago)

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You're presuming it's illegal to withhold that information.



Thats what the witness said, but you are moving the goalposts now like a true lawyer when trapped by facts. Thats not what you said, your presumption was in your own head and I refuted what you said and now you are obscufating as usual. :facepalm:



Unless the witness is an accepted legal expert, his opinion carries no weight




I'll put that squarely in the category of not my problem then. I still maintain that your intial presumption was all in your head, but like a typical lawyer, you will never admit that. :shrug:


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Re: No one is gonna talk about the UFO Hearing in Congress? [Re: thetruthsohelp]
    #28419182 - 08/03/23 06:31 PM (5 months, 22 days ago)

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It's cute that you think congresspeople aren't just dumb cunts with suits on




I think they are human just like the rest of us, and I think you are channeling trumpism right now.

"Everyone is a dumb cunt apart from meism"

Good luck with that philosophy.






Not everyone, just most people in congress

You'd agree with me too if they weren't whispering sweet nothings of martians and saucers into your ears


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Re: UFO Hearing in Congress? [Re: thetruthsohelp]
    #28419184 - 08/03/23 06:32 PM (5 months, 22 days ago)

So you must presume it's illegal based on a laypersons opinion. Got it.


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Re: No one is gonna talk about the UFO Hearing in Congress? [Re: feevers]
    #28419195 - 08/03/23 06:37 PM (5 months, 22 days ago)

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feevers said:
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feevers said:
It's cute that you think congresspeople aren't just dumb cunts with suits on




I think they are human just like the rest of us, and I think you are channeling trumpism right now.

"Everyone is a dumb cunt apart from meism"

Good luck with that philosophy.






Not everyone, just most people in congress

You'd agree with me too if they weren't whispering sweet nothings of martians and saucers into your ears




I think the witnesses are credible, not congress. The witnesses were under oath not congress. Please don't be a dumbass about this. Of course I think that congress are mostly incompetent, like most of humanity, but I also know where there is smoke there is usually fire. Have you even looked at the latest legislation regarding UAP disclosure? Its pretty damn specific and well written so if there is something to be discovered, then I think it highly likely given these specifics that congress will soon be informed, whether that means the general public will ever be is a different matter. Still its interesting and im curious to see what comes of all this, the hearings and the legislation. Don't let your cynicism blind you is my advice. Congress have not been whispering shit about martians into anyone's ears so don't be a dingbat about this subject and actually inform yourself. It would be nice if for once on this forum a moderator would think for themselves.


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Re: UFO Hearing in Congress? [Re: Enlil]
    #28419200 - 08/03/23 06:39 PM (5 months, 22 days ago)

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So you must presume it's illegal based on a laypersons opinion. Got it.




Putting words in other peoples mouths seems to be somehwat of a skillset of yours.


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Re: UFO Hearing in Congress? [Re: thetruthsohelp]
    #28419206 - 08/03/23 06:42 PM (5 months, 22 days ago)

The unknown objects they're talking about are really just aircraft, made on earth, nothing special about them except some might be experimental or secret, but there's no alien involvement.

If aliens came here, it would be to our civilization what a period is to the end of a sentence. It would be the end of our civilization as we know it. They would be billions of years more advanced than we are technologically. Their ships would be so massive that they'd be visible to the naked eye in space in broad daylight. You'd need ships of that size to survive the millions or billions of years in space it would take to get here.

If you take into account that the vast majority of human history has been extremely violent, brutal, and warlike, almost constant war, and the fact that the vast majority of all human governments have been dictatorships...

It's likely that an alien civilization would be a violent, warlike dictatorship, which would quickly conquer us with their superior technology. Then they'd probably either directly enslave us or effectively enslave us, have us work in their factories and mines, and strip our planet of all its resources.

That's how I know no aliens have ever been here, because if they had our civilization wouldn't exist anymore. It's possible an alien satellite might eventually come our way, but it's unclear whether or not that satellite would survive the journey through space, or the crash landing, or if we'd be able to find it and recognize it if it did.

The only hope that we have is that aliens probably wouldn't consider us worth the time and effort it would take to get here.


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Re: UFO Hearing in Congress? [Re: nooneman] * 1
    #28419208 - 08/03/23 06:45 PM (5 months, 22 days ago)

Thats just like, your opinion man.....

An arrogant one at that.


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Re: UFO Hearing in Congress? [Re: thetruthsohelp]
    #28419234 - 08/03/23 07:11 PM (5 months, 22 days ago)

You said it's illegal. As a source, you offered the opinion of a layperson. What part of that isn't accurate?


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Re: No one is gonna talk about the UFO Hearing in Congress? [Re: Brian Jones]
    #28419236 - 08/03/23 07:14 PM (5 months, 22 days ago)

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I suppose so Enlil but it isn’t just this thread’s title and me making reference to Congress and congressional hearings. Just about any headline on the internet about this subject also calls this a congressional hearing so your claim about me exaggerating is misplaced for crying out loud.

You’re saying this in fact is not a congressional hearing but something else altogether? If something else can you tell us what it is?

Not that it really matters because the intrigue this whateveryouwannacallit hearing has unleashed a whole lotta questions! And my initial as well as subsequent statements remain - there’s a conspiracy afoot! At least I think so anyway but who am I to know anything of value…




I don't think the point is that it wasn't a congressional hearing but something else altogether. Rather it was a hearing with about 4 members of congress, so the term, "congressional hearing", is probably technically correct, but gives a very misleading impression of its significance. How many members of congress were not involved? Almost all of them.




Fair enough and as I'm not an American citizen and I don't know how political structures and processes work in details in the USA I'm only going with what other commentators and what the media are saying.

However, looking at Wikipedia's entry on Congressional Hearings and based on media reports aren't the hearings heard by committees rather than the whole of Congress? That 99% of Congress was not present during these UFO hearings still make them Congressional Hearings no?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_congressional_hearing#:~:text=A%20United%20States%20congressional%20hearing,early%20stages%20of%20legislative%20policymaking.


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Re: UFO Hearing in Congress? [Re: Enlil]
    #28419247 - 08/03/23 07:22 PM (5 months, 22 days ago)

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You said it's illegal. As a source, you offered the opinion of a layperson. What part of that isn't accurate?




I was saying that that is the claim by the witness and I think the witness is credible. The details of the illegality I already discussed, its on the record with congress. You want to call a highly decorared intellgence officer with high level clearance and a lifetime of service a layman, well thats your dispute. A

Also, I never said just that becuase it was secret that it was the illegal, that was your claim, which was a strawman of what I was saying, which i refuted. You moved the goalposts then, get it!?

Stop with the lawyer speak, you are wasting my time. Keep doing this shit and ill just put you on ignore, its tiresome.


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Re: UFO Hearing in Congress? [Re: Enlil]
    #28419250 - 08/03/23 07:23 PM (5 months, 22 days ago)

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So you must presume it's illegal based on a laypersons opinion. Got it.




Daniel Sheehan also says it is illegal and allegedly illegal and he ain't no layperson.

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12175195/Crashed-UFO-recovered-military-distorted-space-time.html


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Re: UFO Hearing in Congress? [Re: Warrk]
    #28419254 - 08/03/23 07:26 PM (5 months, 22 days ago)

I'm just confused how the whistleblower knows that this imaginary little big UFO distorts time


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Re: UFO Hearing in Congress? [Re: Warrk]
    #28419279 - 08/03/23 07:36 PM (5 months, 22 days ago)

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So you must presume it's illegal based on a laypersons opinion. Got it.




Daniel Sheehan also says it is illegal and allegedly illegal and he ain't no layperson.

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12175195/Crashed-UFO-recovered-military-distorted-space-time.html



He's a known conspiracy nutter, though.


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