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Anonymous #1

Advice to parents about young adult drug usage
    #28405926 - 07/24/23 03:41 AM (6 months, 2 days ago)

Hi, I grew up and my parents freaked out when they learned I was smoking weed.

Because my parents so so judgemental, and authoritarian, they over-reacted with threats, and punishments, and dis-ownment and abandonment over the most trivial violations of their moral code.


My advice to parents who have teens who may be using drugs is this:

Speak honestly with them, depending on the drug, either ask, beg, educate, or take the drug.

First, I'd like to say I think the only safe drug to take regularily is mushrooms, showing only benefits with no toxicity.

Weed, can disrupt neurological development, permanantly, so I'd save weed until someone is like in their late 20's, like 28 before even taking one toke.

Cocaine, can cause your brain to eat itself, autophagy, and is often cut with fentanyl now.

Meth, heroin, crack, addictive, toxic, etc.

LSD, I almost died from fake LSD, I reccomend avoiding LSD as its just unnecessary, if you want an LSD trip, just avoid the LSD and do shrooms instead.

Tobacco and Alcohol, should both be avoided as they are unnecessary.


My summary of advice is basically that magic mushrooms are safe and beneficial, and all other drugs should be avoided. Weed avoided entirely until somebody is in their late 20's. No alcohol, no tobacco, or other drugs.

Don't disown your children for drug experimentation, because here is what happens when you threaten your kids with punishment for using drugs.


The teens will hide their drug use from you.

They will have their "non-druggy" identity, and their "drug-using identity" seperately created, at home, they will be the non-druggy persona, with friends they will be the "drug-using persona".

This is due to a forced segmentation of the psyche to prevent drug-using psyche from crossing into the non-druggy psyche.

Threatening your kids, calling the police on them, abandoning them, just makes the drug using teen, run, and hide their drug usage from you.

My mom always said about how weed was a "wedge" between me and her. But that wasnt really true. Her judgemental behaivor tword me, is what caused me to be distant, because she didn't accept me. Because she treated me like a different person just because I smoked weed a few times. A parent should look past the drugs and see the child/teen for who they actually are.


My parents reaction of learning that I used weed, was 100x worse than the actual affect of the weed on its own.


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Anonymous #2

Re: Advice to parents about young adult drug usage [Re: Anonymous #1] * 2
    #28405961 - 07/24/23 05:00 AM (6 months, 2 days ago)

Advising a kid to avoid weed until they're near 30 is about as effective as telling mothers not to expose infants to the violence in rap-music.


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Anonymous #3

Re: Advice to parents about young adult drug usage [Re: Anonymous #2] * 1
    #28406008 - 07/24/23 06:43 AM (6 months, 2 days ago)

I find it a little odd that this is in Shroomerites Anonymous, don't quite see why an extra layer of anonymity is needed for this, but anyway...

I count myself lucky that my parents were both experienced and open when it came to drugs. While I definitely didn't want my parents to know specifically when I was doing drugs, it wasn't a hard line. They knew, generally, that I was. And always made a point of subtly letting me know when they could tell I'd been fucked up or hung over. Since I reached adulthood, I can be 100% real with them. They know all about my mush cult, for instance.

Such a completely different environment that I grew up in. My parents did a good job distancing themselves from things in my direct presence, and I only really saw them drink and smoke cigarettes. But I saw their friends, and other family members, smoke weed from as early as I can remember. They gave me a rough outline of most drugs before I had access to them in my peer group. Cocaine sounded terrible. I knew that I didn't want to smoke weed all the time in my teens, didn't want to be a burnout. And that was how my dad presented it to me, knowing I'd inevitably be puffing a bit. It was only later that I realized my parents didn't smoke weed simply because of the shift from new world sativas to Afghan indicas- they just didn't like the new buzz (they called it "laced zombie weed"). And also, that their heinous description of cocaine came from firsthand experience (The aphorism my dad delivered when I was a bit older, and they were being more open with me: "my one rule was, never buy the shit").

Fuck illegal drugs, the two most dangerous things for kids to use regularly from an early age are alcohol and tobacco. Both can easily lead to lifelong addiction, and alcohol is implicated in all sorts of accidents, violence, exploitation, and overdoses. No, the teenage brain probably shouldn't be bathed in THC on the reg, but it's far more disturbing for me to watch another 13 year old take up cigarettes. When you start that young, it's exponentially harder to quit. So, statistically speaking, I'm watching at least some of these kids do something that will eventually kill and/or cripple them.

*Cannabis included as an illegal drug here, for fhe purpose of simplicity...


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Anonymous #4

Re: Advice to parents about young adult drug usage [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #28407171 - 07/24/23 09:47 PM (6 months, 1 day ago)

What advice do I give my young adult child who's flipping out that her old man took up tripping on shrooms when he turned 60?


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Anonymous #5

Re: Advice to parents about young adult drug usage [Re: Anonymous #1] * 1
    #28407200 - 07/24/23 10:08 PM (6 months, 1 day ago)

Have you ever thought that maybe you were a shitty kid and you made it next to impossible to approach the situation rationally from any other angle? I get you OP. But almost every single one of these opinions all stems from not actually taking the time to look at it from anyone else's but your own perspective. You almost certainly were a little bastard. I'm not saying anything they did was right but how much did you do that was? Kids should be doing drugs? What? As an adult with kids and enough honesty to weigh the Earth down and crash it in to the sun - drug use can wait until at least adulthood. Drug use gets boring if you're not a total fucking loser, like a song played far too many times. There are people out there that only made it to adulthood because they had parents like yours. There are people who would beg God to have parents at all that were half the people yours are because they sound like they care about you. To top it off you exude this self love but share no gratitude for them. All so often around places like this, everyone is high on themselves but they still want to bring down all the pieces of their journey that brought them there. That sounds like self hate, regret. Piece of advice though, parents don't want advice from people who don't understand the responsibility. Your brain doesn't work the same.


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Anonymous #1

Re: Advice to parents about young adult drug usage [Re: Anonymous #5]
    #28407209 - 07/24/23 10:11 PM (6 months, 1 day ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #5 said:
Have you ever thought that maybe you were a shitty kid and you made it next to impossible to approach the situation rationally from any other angle? I get you OP. But almost every single one of these opinions all stems from not actually taking the time to look at it from anyone else's but your own perspective. You almost certainly were a little bastard. I'm not saying anything they did was right but how much did you do that was? Kids should be doing drugs? What? As an adult with kids and enough honesty to weigh the Earth down and crash it in to the sun - drug use can wait until at least adulthood. Drug use gets boring if you're not a total fucking loser, like a song played far too many times. There are people out there that only made it to adulthood because they had parents like yours. There are people who would beg God to have parents at all that were half the people yours are because they sound like they care about you. To top it off you exude this self love but share no gratitude for them. All so often around places like this, everyone is high on themselves but they still want to bring down all the pieces of their journey that brought them there. That sounds like self hate, regret. Piece of advice though, parents don't want advice from people who don't understand the responsibility. Your brain doesn't work the same.





You don't know me at all, and your claiming I was "almost certainly" a bad teen?

You literally don't know me, at all. And my advice here is good.


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Anonymous #6

Re: Advice to parents about young adult drug usage [Re: Anonymous #1] * 1
    #28407292 - 07/24/23 11:48 PM (6 months, 1 day ago)

If children think alcohol is acceptable then they will find any drug acceptable. The problem is education. But I think there are way more important things kids should be learning instead of drugs.
What worked best for me avoiding all drugs untill I was about 23 years old... By that time I had learned enough life skills to be responsible with drugs.


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Anonymous #7

Re: Advice to parents about young adult drug usage [Re: Anonymous #5]
    #28421217 - 08/04/23 10:46 PM (5 months, 21 days ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #5 said:
Have you ever thought that maybe you were a shitty kid and you made it next to impossible to approach the situation rationally from any other angle? I get you OP. But almost every single one of these opinions all stems from not actually taking the time to look at it from anyone else's but your own perspective. You almost certainly were a little bastard. I'm not saying anything they did was right but how much did you do that was? Kids should be doing drugs? What? As an adult with kids and enough honesty to weigh the Earth down and crash it in to the sun - drug use can wait until at least adulthood. Drug use gets boring if you're not a total fucking loser, like a song played far too many times. There are people out there that only made it to adulthood because they had parents like yours. There are people who would beg God to have parents at all that were half the people yours are because they sound like they care about you. To top it off you exude this self love but share no gratitude for them. All so often around places like this, everyone is high on themselves but they still want to bring down all the pieces of their journey that brought them there. That sounds like self hate, regret. Piece of advice though, parents don't want advice from people who don't understand the responsibility. Your brain doesn't work the same.




I swear you could pick a fight with an onion #5:lmafo: it's literally anonymous and you're passing out judgments like you've known them for years.. Hilarious.. Well done:thumbup:


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Anonymous #8

Re: Advice to parents about young adult drug usage [Re: Anonymous #7]
    #28421248 - 08/04/23 11:43 PM (5 months, 21 days ago)

Trust me, as a parent of 3, nobody is gonna take advice from anyone in this subject, especially anyone reading an anon post on a shroom site


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Anonymous #9

Re: Advice to parents about young adult drug usage [Re: Anonymous #8]
    #28421269 - 08/05/23 12:32 AM (5 months, 21 days ago)

I can't argue in favor of intentional brain damage without recuperation.

Except, drugs were used in advanced placement classes, and by dropouts, and, when I caught up with these people, later in life, job placement was not by any means based upon competency.


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Anonymous #8

Re: Advice to parents about young adult drug usage [Re: Anonymous #9]
    #28422926 - 08/06/23 10:30 AM (5 months, 20 days ago)

What brain damage?


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Anonymous #9

Re: Advice to parents about young adult drug usage [Re: Anonymous #8]
    #28422945 - 08/06/23 10:48 AM (5 months, 20 days ago)

I've been called for medical advice with school nurse emergencies, which involved the huffing of dry erase markers and office supplies, the snorting of drink mix and intentional misuse of Adderall.

I had to figure out ways of feeding a kid, whose legs went crooked in a high chair. And, could not explain, for the life of me, why the neighborhood drug house exploded three times, to a juvenile drug user. And, someone went legally blind and had multiple heart attacks in my house. And, I have been sent to look for people out of their gourd.

idc, whether or not it's politically correct to say that street drugs result in body load, or that going non stop results in brain damage.


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Anonymous #10

Re: Advice to parents about young adult drug usage [Re: Anonymous #9]
    #28422981 - 08/06/23 11:29 AM (5 months, 20 days ago)

:bringiton::lmafo:


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Anonymous #9

Re: Advice to parents about young adult drug usage [Re: Anonymous #10]
    #28423177 - 08/06/23 02:34 PM (5 months, 20 days ago)

I didn't even have a problem with responsible people, in theory. Just can't name any examples from real life.


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Anonymous #8

Re: Advice to parents about young adult drug usage [Re: Anonymous #9]
    #28424080 - 08/07/23 10:25 AM (5 months, 19 days ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #9 said:
I've been called for medical advice with school nurse emergencies, which involved the huffing of dry erase markers and office supplies




:whattefuck2:

Who the fuck needs to make a phone call cuz a kid was smelling a marker? Did someone actually think that was an emergency?

Possibly better question, did YOU think that was an emergency?


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Anonymous #11

Re: Advice to parents about young adult drug usage [Re: Anonymous #8]
    #28424302 - 08/07/23 12:46 PM (5 months, 19 days ago)

The idiocy in modern medicine knows no bounds.


It's there for a reason, the reason being is that total idiocy within the medical profession is the driving factor that perpetuates the need for itself.


Nobody with any sense whatsoever trust the medical industry.


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Anonymous #9

Re: Advice to parents about young adult drug usage [Re: Anonymous #11]
    #28424565 - 08/07/23 04:51 PM (5 months, 19 days ago)

Quote:

Who the fuck needs to make a phone call cuz a kid was smelling a marker? Did someone actually think that was an emergency?





Teachers leagally put in place of parents.

Quote:


Possibly better question, did YOU think that was an emergency?




https://melmagazine.com/en-us/story/what-does-huffing-a-sharpie-really-do-to-your-brain

Depending on duration and severity of symptoms.

Quote:

I can't argue in favor of intentional brain damage without recuperation.




Quote:

I didn't even have a problem with responsible people, in theory. Just can't name any examples from real life.




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Anonymous #11

Re: Advice to parents about young adult drug usage [Re: Anonymous #9]
    #28426350 - 08/08/23 09:10 PM (5 months, 17 days ago)

So what I hear you saying is that you are basically retarded and proud of the fact because for some reason you think being retarded is cool, hip, or fashionable?


If not please explain where I got it wrong and please use your big words.


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Anonymous #9

Re: Advice to parents about young adult drug usage [Re: Anonymous #11]
    #28426486 - 08/08/23 11:23 PM (5 months, 17 days ago)

:wonka: Pay me.


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Anonymous #11

Re: Advice to parents about young adult drug usage [Re: Anonymous #9]
    #28426911 - 08/09/23 09:30 AM (5 months, 17 days ago)

Very eloquently put.


:robblerobble:


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Anonymous #9

Re: Advice to parents about young adult drug usage [Re: Anonymous #11]
    #28426931 - 08/09/23 09:50 AM (5 months, 17 days ago)

It's a show of good faith, that you will do as I say, and also compensates me for the time I am spending on you.


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Anonymous #11

Re: Advice to parents about young adult drug usage [Re: Anonymous #9]
    #28427073 - 08/09/23 12:11 PM (5 months, 17 days ago)

You're pretty much a useless troll in my opinion.

:feelsbannedman:
Seems like you have a lot of mental issues going and I can't help but wonder just how many markers you huffed in your youth whilst sitting in detention.


Good luck buddy.


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Anonymous #9

Re: Advice to parents about young adult drug usage [Re: Anonymous #11]
    #28427106 - 08/09/23 12:49 PM (5 months, 17 days ago)

Quote:

Threatening your kids, calling the police on them, abandoning them, just makes the drug using teen, run, and hide their drug usage from you.




I'm sounding flippant, but I believe that over-disciplining causes kids to play the victim for more attention.

Quote:

I can't help but wonder just how many markers you huffed in your youth whilst sitting in detention.




(Cough syrup and ethnos, and it led to expulsion hearings.)

My teachers were involved in a scandal regarding the typical drugs of abuse.

I stand by my statement that inhalant abuse is destructive, but not an immediate, life-or-death emergency, based on symptoms.


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