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Re: Definitely not Russian propaganda or conspiracy theories [Re: budmanman]
    #28404073 - 07/22/23 03:16 PM (6 months, 3 days ago)

You think it made that much of a difference?  I think that's absurd, but you're entitled to believe what you want to believe.


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Re: Definitely not Russian propaganda or conspiracy theories [Re: Enlil]
    #28404074 - 07/22/23 03:17 PM (6 months, 3 days ago)

I showed a video of Trump saying we need to be more friendly to other countries of the world.  Koods then responded with "people like trump are the reason why people hate the US".

My interpretation was very reasonable based on the video, but if koods insists his response to my video had nothing to do with the actual video, I'll believe him.  :shrug:


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Re: Definitely not Russian propaganda or conspiracy theories [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #28404078 - 07/22/23 03:19 PM (6 months, 3 days ago)

Every single person who read his response understood what he meant.  Even you understood what he meant.  You just tried to twist it into something that you'd prefer him to have said so you can scoff at it.


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Re: Definitely not Russian propaganda or conspiracy theories [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #28404079 - 07/22/23 03:19 PM (6 months, 3 days ago)

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What am I misrepresenting?



An unwillingness to take everything that happened from 2015 till now and trying to make excuse for one at a time leaving the rest out is a misrepresentation of sorts in its self.  You did make excuse for russian spy but left out nra and russian 30 million also connected to said spy and put in context with mueller etc.  I had it mentioned at me by a different poster in a comment that might fit here toward my question to you on how you discuss issues.  It goes, was it the load or the last straw that broke the camel's back?
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Re: Definitely not Russian propaganda or conspiracy theories [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #28404137 - 07/22/23 04:07 PM (6 months, 3 days ago)

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No, I welcome other incidents.  But no one has anything to share.  Just basically "trust me Fal, there's more out there, trust me!  Except there's nothing to share because... obstruction of justice!"




Mueller specifically noted that their investigation into Manaforts Russian contacts was stymied by lies and obstruction by witnesses and Manafort himself.


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Re: Definitely not Russian propaganda or conspiracy theories [Re: Enlil]
    #28404139 - 07/22/23 04:10 PM (6 months, 3 days ago)

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Every single person who read his response understood what he meant.  Even you understood what he meant.  You just tried to twist it into something that you'd prefer him to have said so you can scoff at it.



No, I thought he was responding to my video.  If you knew he was just making a random Trump is a big fat poo poo head comment, good for you!  I thought he was responding to my video.

You said "Every single person who read his response understood what he meant."  How do you know this?


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Re: Definitely not Russian propaganda or conspiracy theories [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #28404142 - 07/22/23 04:11 PM (6 months, 3 days ago)

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I showed a video of Trump saying we need to be more friendly to other countries of the world.  Koods then responded with "people like trump are the reason why people hate the US".

My interpretation was very reasonable based on the video, but if koods insists his response to my video had nothing to do with the actual video, I'll believe him.  :shrug:




No need to interpret anything. I said exactly why trump makes the US look bad - he’s a moral degenerate.


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Re: Definitely not Russian propaganda or conspiracy theories [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #28404143 - 07/22/23 04:12 PM (6 months, 3 days ago)

And again you've misrepresented koods'statement.


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Re: Definitely not Russian propaganda or conspiracy theories [Re: gww]
    #28404144 - 07/22/23 04:13 PM (6 months, 3 days ago)

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What am I misrepresenting?



An unwillingness to take everything that happened from 2015 till now and trying to make excuse for one at a time leaving the rest out is a misrepresentation of sorts in its self.  You did make excuse for russian spy but left out nra and russian 30 million also connected to said spy and put in context with mueller etc.



What does any of that have to do with the Trump campaign conspiring or coordinating with the Russian government in its election interference activities?


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Re: Definitely not Russian propaganda or conspiracy theories [Re: koods]
    #28404146 - 07/22/23 04:15 PM (6 months, 3 days ago)

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Mueller specifically noted that their investigation into Manaforts Russian contacts was stymied by lies and obstruction by witnesses and Manafort himself.



What does Manafort have to do with the Trump campaign conspiring or coordinating with the Russian government in its election interference activities?


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Re: Definitely not Russian propaganda or conspiracy theories [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #28404148 - 07/22/23 04:15 PM (6 months, 3 days ago)

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Every single person who read his response understood what he meant.  Even you understood what he meant.  You just tried to twist it into something that you'd prefer him to have said so you can scoff at it.



No, I thought he was responding to my video.  If you knew he was just making a random Trump is a big fat poo poo head comment, good for you!  I thought he was responding to my video.

You said "Every single person who read his response understood what he meant."  How do you know this?




It’s very simple statement that stands on its own. I don’t believe for a second you were confused by what I said.

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People like trump are the reason why people hate the US. If we end up electing that moral degenerate and buffoon to office again, the standing of this country in the eyes of the world is going to be shattered.




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Re: Definitely not Russian propaganda or conspiracy theories [Re: koods]
    #28404150 - 07/22/23 04:16 PM (6 months, 3 days ago)

And he was by 12 jurors a sexual assaulter and by the judge's published statement, a rapist of the real trial.  This is not a conspiracy theory but a fact.
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Re: Definitely not Russian propaganda or conspiracy theories [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #28404153 - 07/22/23 04:19 PM (6 months, 3 days ago)

Every year, your understanding of issues, at least as described and argued by you, gets less nuanced and more one-dimensional. You become less interested in seeing truth and more interested in confirming your beliefs, even if it means clinging to the shadiest of sources and disregarding highly credible ones.

What happened to you?


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Re: Definitely not Russian propaganda or conspiracy theories [Re: koods]
    #28404154 - 07/22/23 04:20 PM (6 months, 3 days ago)

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No need to interpret anything. I said exactly why trump makes the US look bad - he’s a moral degenerate.



Ok, so I was right - you weren't responding to my video, you were just making a random 'Trump's a big fat poo poo head' post.


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Re: Definitely not Russian propaganda or conspiracy theories [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #28404155 - 07/22/23 04:21 PM (6 months, 3 days ago)

And for the third time... you've misrepresented his statement.


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Re: Definitely not Russian propaganda or conspiracy theories [Re: gww]
    #28404156 - 07/22/23 04:21 PM (6 months, 3 days ago)

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And he was by 12 jurors a sexual assaulter and by the judge's published statement, a rapist of the real trial.  This is not a conspiracy theory but a fact.
Cheers
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What does that have to do with the Trump campaign conspiring or coordinating with the Russian government in its election interference activities?


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Re: Definitely not Russian propaganda or conspiracy theories [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #28404160 - 07/22/23 04:26 PM (6 months, 3 days ago)

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What am I misrepresenting?



An unwillingness to take everything that happened from 2015 till now and trying to make excuse for one at a time leaving the rest out is a misrepresentation of sorts in its self.  You did make excuse for russian spy but left out nra and russian 30 million also connected to said spy and put in context with mueller etc.



What does any of that have to do with the Trump campaign conspiring or coordinating with the Russian government in its election interference activities?




I don't understand you question at all?  Is you question trying to state the spy/russia/money stuff was unrelated to the election going on? Did you really read my prior statements of just skim read and miss stuff?
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Ps are you trying to say collusion is the only topic, and if so have you got off track and now trying to keep me on?  I dunno?


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Re: Definitely not Russian propaganda or conspiracy theories [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #28404162 - 07/22/23 04:29 PM (6 months, 3 days ago)

The government doesn't sponsor msm, their advertisers and donors do, and those legacy media organisations often tend to represent their monied interests, that said, because the funding isn't from the state, it's not right to shut down anything for being from msm in a generalising way.

If you have specific concerns with an author or network as related to the claims they make, please share, otherwise it's not productive or true to generalise as such.

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Re: Definitely not Russian propaganda or conspiracy theories [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #28404163 - 07/22/23 04:30 PM (6 months, 3 days ago)

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No need to interpret anything. I said exactly why trump makes the US look bad - he’s a moral degenerate.



Ok, so I was right - you weren't responding to my video, you were just making a random 'Trump's a big fat poo poo head' post.




What do you mean you were right that I wasn’t responding to the video. You’ve spent the last page telling us you thought I was responding to the video.

And I did respond to the video in a separate paragraph.


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Re: Definitely not Russian propaganda or conspiracy theories [Re: gww]
    #28404167 - 07/22/23 04:34 PM (6 months, 3 days ago)

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What does any of that have to do with the Trump campaign conspiring or coordinating with the Russian government in its election interference activities?



I don't understand you question at all?  Is you question trying to state the spy/russia/money stuff was unrelated to the election going on?



Please read my original post.

I'm saying it was unrelated to Trump conspiring or coordinating with the Russian government on election interference activities.


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