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Re: Vote for Biden! 2024 [Re: Enlil]
    #28401914 - 07/20/23 04:05 PM (6 months, 5 days ago)

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At the time of the ratification of the Constitution, and for nearly 100 years thereafter, the bill of rights didn't even apply to the states.  A state could create an official religion, ban political speech, and arrest people without probable cause up until the late 19th century.




My home was searched without probable cause around 2009 so it really still applies todays.


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Re: Vote for Biden! 2024 [Re: budmanman]
    #28401924 - 07/20/23 04:21 PM (6 months, 5 days ago)

Anecdotal and irrelevant.


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Re: Vote for Biden! 2024 [Re: Enlil]
    #28401926 - 07/20/23 04:23 PM (6 months, 5 days ago)

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I think you have a fundamental misunderstanding of the purpose and function of the constitution. I'm all for amending it to include more individual rights, but pretending that the declaration of independence is relevant is beyond silly.



Ive got to agree with you. We have channels to add to the documents. Gotta go through those channels.


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Re: Vote for Biden! 2024 [Re: Enlil]
    #28401927 - 07/20/23 04:23 PM (6 months, 5 days ago)

The NSA likes your contribution.


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Re: Vote for Biden! 2024 [Re: budmanman]
    #28401928 - 07/20/23 04:26 PM (6 months, 5 days ago)

The NSA does good work.


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Re: Vote for Biden! 2024 [Re: budmanman]
    #28401933 - 07/20/23 04:34 PM (6 months, 5 days ago)

They were going to search my cousins house based on alleged pot seeds in his trash.  However when they found out he wasn't living there, pot seeds meant nothing and so they did not search or apply for a new warrant.  Rules are meant to be broke for those willing break them and most recipients do not have resources to run it up the pipe even if they are right.

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Those documents have to be interpreted to be useful and have the same meaning to all.  The constitution has been amended through the process more then once and those amendments have to be included in any interpretation.  Our faith in the interpretation is based a bit on faith that the interpreters have some process to give meaning to the written law.  This is why stare decisis come up in every conformation hearing of all of the justices.
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Re: Vote for Biden! 2024 [Re: Enlil]
    #28401940 - 07/20/23 04:43 PM (6 months, 5 days ago)

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The NSA does good work.




They sure gave me a hard time.


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Re: Vote for Biden! 2024 [Re: gww]
    #28401951 - 07/20/23 04:52 PM (6 months, 5 days ago)

As much as stare decisis is a good policy, it isn't absolute.  If it were, Segregation would still be legal, and homosexual sex would still be illegal.


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Re: Vote for Biden! 2024 [Re: chopstick]
    #28401953 - 07/20/23 04:53 PM (6 months, 5 days ago)

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The NSA does good work.




They sure gave me a hard time.



That is exactly the kind of "good work" I'm talking about.


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Re: Vote for Biden! 2024 [Re: Enlil]
    #28401974 - 07/20/23 05:17 PM (6 months, 5 days ago)

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it isn't absolute.



Everything is absolute until it is not.  I am just a highly uneducated hick.  My only power is to vote on my beliefs based on my deciphering to the best of my ability what I do know or can find out.  My understanding on segregation is that stare decisis was used in the segregation of schools but new info was given to prove separate but equal did not work was also provided and that homosexuality might now be up for grabs because it was based on privacy which has now been struck down.  Since I only have a tenth grade education, and unless I can be shown the error of my ways, these are the things that will help make my mind up in my one right which is to vote.
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Re: Vote for Biden! 2024 [Re: Enlil]
    #28401977 - 07/20/23 05:20 PM (6 months, 5 days ago)

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The NSA does good work.



They sure gave me a hard time.



That is exactly the kind of "good work" I'm talking about.



Ya, they shut truth tellers up, like Julian Assange.  Who wants to hear it?


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Re: Vote for Biden! 2024 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #28401989 - 07/20/23 05:39 PM (6 months, 5 days ago)

What has the NSA done to Julian Assange?  Link sources please.


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Re: Vote for Biden! 2024 [Re: Enlil]
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Re: Vote for Biden! 2024 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #28402017 - 07/20/23 05:57 PM (6 months, 5 days ago)

I don't see anywhere in there about the NSA "shut[ting] up" Julian Assange.  Can you quote that part of the article?


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Re: Vote for Biden! 2024 [Re: Enlil]
    #28402295 - 07/20/23 10:10 PM (6 months, 4 days ago)

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NSA proposals to target WikiLeaks

As the new NSA documents make clear, however, the U.S. government did more than attempt to engineer the prosecution of Assange.



Prosecuting Assange helped shut him up, wouldn't you say?


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Re: Vote for Biden! 2024 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #28402298 - 07/20/23 10:12 PM (6 months, 4 days ago)

Maybe, but "attempting to engineer" his prosecution certainly didn't.  Is there anything in there where it says that the NSA was successful.  As far as I know, The DOJ and the CIA under Trump are the ones who eventually got him indicted.


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Re: Vote for Biden! 2024 [Re: Enlil]
    #28402411 - 07/21/23 02:57 AM (6 months, 4 days ago)

I thought I'd come back and check in on how fucking stupid this thread ended up being. Yall didn't disappoint.

Biden is a corrupt panty-waste piece of shit. At least as bad of a candidate as the Clintons.

RFK Jr is the truth! RFK Jr 2024!!!


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Re: Vote for Biden! 2024 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #28402414 - 07/21/23 02:59 AM (6 months, 4 days ago)

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NSA proposals to target WikiLeaks

As the new NSA documents make clear, however, the U.S. government did more than attempt to engineer the prosecution of Assange.



Prosecuting Assange helped shut him up, wouldn't you say?




All stupid shit aside... Yes, of course you're right, Falcon.


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Re: Vote for Biden! 2024 [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #28402416 - 07/21/23 03:00 AM (6 months, 4 days ago)

Cornel West is pretty good too.  Maybe even better than RFK Jr?


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Re: Vote for Biden! 2024 [Re: Enlil]
    #28402417 - 07/21/23 03:00 AM (6 months, 4 days ago)

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Access in the U.S., sure.  Nonetheless, not everyone, or even most people, live in the U.S.  Access to an abortion has always depended on where you live.

I can't say whether this is a net loss for women or not. I have no way of calculating that.




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