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GOP = GREED OVER PRINCIPLES
    #28400751 - 07/19/23 01:22 PM (6 months, 6 days ago)

GOP = GREED OVER PRINCIPLES

please note that this is not an attack on proper republicanism, no, this is about the current course that all principles are overboard with the urrent trumpist shool of thougt.

The universe is ordered.

Parties should be prinipled and orderly, not haoti bigoted klan rallys.

Where are the family values?

Why arent the churhes utterly disendorsing the orange spraytan pig drinking from the gilded toilet?


GOP = GREED OVER PRINCIPLES


Republians trumpstyle screw lie cheat and gerrymander anything away fo personal gain. slot mahine sluts.

Disgusting.


principles first.

community first

preferential exeption for those most in need.


anything other isnt ivilisation but a siege.



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Re: GOP = GREED OVER PRINCIPLES [Re: Asante]
    #28400761 - 07/19/23 01:37 PM (6 months, 6 days ago)

the answer here, is that everyone has a right to their ideas and to live and thrive.

lots of groups thoughout history have had ideas i dont agree with

democrats, republicans, trumpists, nazis, islamists, christians, pegans, communists, socialists...

to one degree or another i disagree with them all on various ideas, but some of those groups (or segments of those groups)... have decided that their ideas are so good, that anyone who doesnt agree with them shouldnt be allowed to thrive.

and the current leadership of the republican party would like free labor, or as free as possible, regardless of the outcomes ... if that means their labor force fails to thrive, so be it.

lets go to extreme examples. there have been slave owners throughout history who fed their slaves well, taught them along side of their own...fed them... housed them....treated them well. and there were also slave owners who fed slaves terribly, made them live in horrible conditions and beat them sometimes to death.

neither group is ok, because you are taking the abilities of others to thrive away from them, but one group is clearly worse than the others.

this is how i see american politics. the democrats are all talk,, and when it comes to action they provide the bare minimums of civility... even the benefits that they bring to the table seem to come with huge catches...

but the republicans seem to really want people not to be able to have class mobility, they seem to savor a working class for whom food and shelter are luxuries while they are able to waste and squander their wealth and get tax incentives to do so.

what we SHOULD expect from our politicians is to leave us alone while making roads for the greatest ammount of success for the least fortunate amongst us. this is what makes a country thrive... when the lowest class is fairly comfortable the upper crust thrives just the same, but when the lower class is sick and poor, the country is full of shootings and violence and greed.

and greed really is the reason... to have more than you need without giving back is taking things out of the mouths of others, and when you do give back it makes the whole society stronger and healthier.


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Re: GOP = GREED OVER PRINCIPLES [Re: rxb] * 1
    #28400976 - 07/19/23 04:47 PM (6 months, 6 days ago)

Some Republicans are good.




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Re: GOP = GREED OVER PRINCIPLES [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #28401436 - 07/20/23 05:55 AM (6 months, 5 days ago)

Quote:

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Some Republicans are good.







i agree some are indeed.


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Re: GOP = GREED OVER PRINCIPLES [Re: Asante]
    #28401502 - 07/20/23 07:04 AM (6 months, 5 days ago)

I'm currently listening to a Freakonomics podcast, America's Hidden Duopoly, as the two party system, not broken as portrayed, is doing very well as designed, an industry.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/freakonomics-radio/id354668519?i=1000422968221

edit: I didn't realize it is apparently from 2021. It was forwarded to me.


Edited by syncro (07/20/23 07:51 AM)


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Re: GOP = GREED OVER PRINCIPLES [Re: syncro] * 2
    #28402048 - 07/20/23 06:33 PM (6 months, 5 days ago)

The GOP doesn't run on any kind of real platform anymore. Just scare tactics and culture war.dems get up and talk about policy, reform, budgets etc....the GOP just wants you to be scared of trans people at this point. Or talk about trumps legal issues. Nothing of substance or that effects the majority of Americans.


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Re: GOP = GREED OVER PRINCIPLES [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
    #28402062 - 07/20/23 06:49 PM (6 months, 5 days ago)

Quote:

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Some Republicans are good.







Are those Irish Republicans?


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Re: GOP = GREED OVER PRINCIPLES [Re: Brian Jones] * 2
    #28402124 - 07/20/23 07:41 PM (6 months, 5 days ago)



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Re: GOP = GREED OVER PRINCIPLES [Re: mycosis] * 1
    #28402456 - 07/21/23 04:23 AM (6 months, 4 days ago)

There nothing like a woman with good legs firing an automatic rifle.

I remember a picture in Rolling Stone mag in the 70's. It was Israel (I know different politics) where everybody does mandatory military. There were these chicks on the beach in bikinis strapped with machine guns. I might have joined voluntarily.


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Re: GOP = GREED OVER PRINCIPLES [Re: Brian Jones]
    #28402496 - 07/21/23 05:17 AM (6 months, 4 days ago)

the GOP needs to get away from hate... they open their arms to all kinds of hateful people and hate groups.

the democratic party needs to stop canceling people and realize everyone had a right to present their opinion without it ruining lives.

once we start embracing the idea that every individual has the right to be whatever stupid thing they want to be, once again... america can truely be great again.

i dont actually know the answer to when was america great, because in any era you can find issues, and even when issues were small you can find factions of people fighting over petty bullshit, but it seems to me there were times before now when people would tell children that everyone has a right to be whatever they decide to be and that its american to allow them the space to be that.

but those days are over. and now one side hates people that "use pronouns"how fucking dumb is this statement...

and the other side hates anyone who supports trump... anyone who has the ¨wrong thoughts" really...

and it may seem to you like the wrong thoughts are all hate speech and bigotry and unjust behaviors... but none the less patrolling thoughts and pretending like those wrong people...have no right to exist is a dangerous move... similar to the ideas of the nazis and other fascists.

we should do better.


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Re: GOP = GREED OVER PRINCIPLES [Re: rxb]
    #28402510 - 07/21/23 05:37 AM (6 months, 4 days ago)

In my life, with the caveat that I was young and selfish and may not have paid good attention, but the mid to late 70s seems like a time where I lived that nobody was worried about what others were doing and early to mid 80's I noticed a bit of a change in attitudes.  Things like fences around parks and curfews and building records on people rather then things like just dumping their beer and taking their pot and such, smoking being regulated  Zoning laws.
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Re: GOP = GREED OVER PRINCIPLES [Re: gww]
    #28402529 - 07/21/23 06:03 AM (6 months, 4 days ago)

i agree about the 70s and i thought the 80s were inclusive as well... there were definately factors that people would disagree with and areas of the country werent even hiding the racism

so there is no time to make it as great as... but just pieces of those times.


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Re: GOP = GREED OVER PRINCIPLES [Re: rxb] * 1
    #28402814 - 07/21/23 12:05 PM (6 months, 4 days ago)

America is still pretty fucking great.  It's not perfect and never will be, but the country is beautiful.  The people, by and large, are awesome.  We struggle, as any large country does, with tension between the goals of optimizing society and being inclusive.  Nonetheless, I do believe the nation is getting better and better.


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Re: GOP = GREED OVER PRINCIPLES [Re: Enlil]
    #28402887 - 07/21/23 01:10 PM (6 months, 4 days ago)

The only time I ever went over seas reinforced to me that living in america could not be beat.  Just no comparison period.  Matter of fact, I can't believe that once somebody hit Missouri that they kept going.
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Re: GOP = GREED OVER PRINCIPLES [Re: Asante]
    #28403194 - 07/21/23 06:36 PM (6 months, 4 days ago)

Pretty clear bias when someone arrives at the conclusion that one party is any more corrupt than the other given the clear evidence of greed on both sides :sad:


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Re: GOP = GREED OVER PRINCIPLES [Re: Sugabearcrisp]
    #28403246 - 07/21/23 07:17 PM (6 months, 4 days ago)

I don't know if the evidence is perfectly clear on both sides and keeping harm in perspective is also important.  Manslaughter is not murder. Accepting guilt is a bit different then everything I do is perfect as well.  Knowing both side have did things (like us and torture) to not be proud of but now supporting russia (invasion and murder) against american interest could be an example.
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Re: GOP = GREED OVER PRINCIPLES [Re: gww] * 1
    #28403248 - 07/21/23 07:21 PM (6 months, 4 days ago)

one side.... posted hunter biden revenge porn in open session the other day...

prompting one representative to say

"after seeing that maybe we should be calling hunter ´the big guy´¨


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Re: GOP = GREED OVER PRINCIPLES [Re: Sugabearcrisp] * 3
    #28403346 - 07/21/23 09:18 PM (6 months, 4 days ago)

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Pretty clear bias when someone arrives at the conclusion that one party is any more corrupt than the other given the clear evidence of greed on both sides :sad:



Agreed.  :thumbup:

Just like with war, people are brainwashed into thinking their side is 'good' and the other is 'evil'.  :shake:


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Re: GOP = GREED OVER PRINCIPLES [Re: Enlil]
    #28404084 - 07/22/23 03:22 PM (6 months, 3 days ago)

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America is still pretty fucking great.  It's not perfect and never will be, but the country is beautiful.  The people, by and large, are awesome.  We struggle, as any large country does, with tension between the goals of optimizing society and being inclusive.  Nonetheless, I do believe the nation is getting better and better.





It isn't just great, it is the greatest and that is why everyone wants to be here.


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Re: GOP = GREED OVER PRINCIPLES [Re: budmanman] * 1
    #28404645 - 07/22/23 11:43 PM (6 months, 2 days ago)

I have had the luxury of seeing many countries. I wouldn't pick any other place. For all the flaws, most have a semi decent shot at the pursuit of happiness, in the US.


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Re: GOP = GREED OVER PRINCIPLES [Re: Asante]
    #28405779 - 07/23/23 10:44 PM (6 months, 1 day ago)

They just have to buy enough lottery tickets.


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    #28406533 - 07/24/23 01:59 PM (6 months, 1 day ago)

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    #28406712 - 07/24/23 04:34 PM (6 months, 1 day ago)

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I have had the luxury of seeing many countries. I wouldn't pick any other place. For all the flaws, most have a semi decent shot at the pursuit of happiness, in the US.



They call that perspective :yesnod:


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    #28406748 - 07/24/23 05:07 PM (6 months, 1 day ago)

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America is still pretty fucking great.  It's not perfect and never will be, but the country is beautiful.  The people, by and large, are awesome.  We struggle, as any large country does, with tension between the goals of optimizing society and being inclusive.  Nonetheless, I do believe the nation is getting better and better.




In the 60's, the American public was proud to question the governments wars and policies.  These days, if you do that you are called a fascist racist white supremacist colonialist patriarchal KKK member Putin lover.  Millions of Americans have an emotional meltdown if you question "certain" beliefs & opinions that are held as sacred.  How times have changed. 

Shut up and fall in line!  Don't you dare question authority!


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Re: GOP = GREED OVER PRINCIPLES [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #28406775 - 07/24/23 05:25 PM (6 months, 1 day ago)

You think that's new.  The reality is that American society has never been more tolerant of different ideas.


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    #28406828 - 07/24/23 05:48 PM (6 months, 1 day ago)

I've steadily observed a skyrocketing level of intolerance of ideas. Due to this intolerance, more and more people are angry.  A few of my friends have actually told me I am not angry enough.  The rage we see is intolerance and a demonization of ideas.  It's become an epidemic.


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Re: GOP = GREED OVER PRINCIPLES [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #28406854 - 07/24/23 06:13 PM (6 months, 1 day ago)

That's purely anecdotal. It is undeniable, however, that many ideas openly discussed today would get people arrested or worse in decades past.


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    #28406868 - 07/24/23 06:20 PM (6 months, 1 day ago)

Not so long ago the ACLU defended the free speech of neo-Nazi groups.

https://www.aclu.org/documents/aclu-history-taking-stand-free-speech-skokie


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They do good work.


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    #28407257 - 07/24/23 10:59 PM (6 months, 23 hours ago)

Cherry on top, the ACLU lawyer in that case was Jewish.


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    #28407469 - 07/25/23 06:34 AM (6 months, 15 hours ago)

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Not so long ago the ACLU defended the free speech of neo-Nazi groups.

https://www.aclu.org/documents/aclu-history-taking-stand-free-speech-skokie




freedom of speech is measured by the most offensive speech. its not freedom to allow speech we all agree with, freedom is being able to address your superiors as the peices of crap that they are. freedom is the right to say horrible and repugnant things.

defending a naziś rights to be a nazi is as american as apple pie. the nazi is a peice of crap, with bad ideas and worse ideals... but his rights to spread his bad ideas is the american way.


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