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Sleep Paralysis Demons
#28368252 - 06/21/23 06:45 AM (7 months, 4 days ago) |
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God, I had some experiences when younger and into the occult but nothing like most of the stories. Had no control and was floating out of my body and sensed a few and felt the worst fear and hence why they call it paralysis. Never saw demons just felt a very powerful presence that was not good.
That made me laugh though the story one guy wrote about to show the demon he wasn't scared getting naked before sleep and masturbating furiously to show his courage in face of the demon. Yeah, I suppose that is one way to go about it though didn't seem to scare the demon off.
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Re: Sleep Paralysis Demons [Re: Barnaby]
#28368272 - 06/21/23 07:04 AM (7 months, 4 days ago) |
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Ridiculous, haha.
Out of all hypnagogic & hypnopompic episodes in my life, only one was what I could consider somewhat cliche in terms of being demon-like. At the time, mounted on the wall adjacent to my bed and next to where I lay my head down to sleep there hung an old clay Sun Mayan in its origin which was my mom's and her mom's and so on and so forth.
One night I awoke with paralysis and my eyes happened to glance at & meet with said sun. Then, an impossibly dark, almost as if darker than black colored smoke-like "entity" in appearance seemingly "pooled" itself from out of the sun disc in slow motion and made its way down until uncomfortably close to my face when a creepy smirk unfurled across its shapeless face before going poof as the paralysis wore off.
It was pretty interesting.
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I had one and perceived someone sitting in the room with me, just watching. That was plenty, being immobilized and unable to speak. I felt or imagined he was someone to whom I had a karmic debt, not a good one.
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Re: Sleep Paralysis Demons [Re: syncro]
#28368579 - 06/21/23 11:07 AM (7 months, 3 days ago) |
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In earlier years, my drinking was heavy, and I think there was greater susceptibility to sleep paralysis along with things like the delirium tremens, or the degree of physical and psychological damage. Perhaps in the subtle as well as said, the bar fly attracts company.
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Re: Sleep Paralysis Demons [Re: syncro]
#28369602 - 06/22/23 02:23 AM (7 months, 3 days ago) |
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The way of the shroomery. Blame everything on drinking. Like using lsd, and shrooms, and DMT opens one up to all sorts of things.
Try Datura if one chooses or things of that nature/type. See if you see the black hat man. Would go no on that that or Datura.
Been through basically everything yet protected but when given knowledge those that control this world with power and spiritual law teach some harsh lessons but at least benenification in ones life and assists one in in progression in ways that matter.
Demons, some people people in life, spiritually and physically don't do that. I just don't fuck with certain things anymore as it wasn't scaring me in my life experience. It was trying to take over my body and I felt legion trying to do so until I just prayed and asked that this sucked and I don't want this.
Was answered not by any fucking religion but was gone immediately And yeah I get some of these stories and others are complete shit is my belief but it made me laugh.
No one is invincible. Spiritual law dicates and has a force but to me and my life experience, you have to go so out of your way to not have allies in the Spirit world anymore and give yourself up to it. And once again it sucks. They want you and are so weak compared to them and one needs nothing outside ones self.
They make it seem hopeless but it is so dumb and I almost fell for it. BLOOD SUGAR BABY SEX MAGiC SHE HAS IT. Don't fuck with your blood. Scary. Just shift focus to you chose to be born, is my belief and you have many allies to help one progress in this life and spiritually which is more interesting to me which at this time in 2023 I find life boring as shit yet, larger picture.
Have a laugh of the absurdity of life and all its experiences. Stick to the goal.
And really black hat man is the last thing one would want to see though a different subject on a different experience I sometimes take advice. Dosages at those levels, just no. Not a good thing to see black hat man and can go through life being ok with that. Is intriguing but no.
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Re: Sleep Paralysis Demons [Re: Barnaby]
#28369606 - 06/22/23 02:39 AM (7 months, 3 days ago) |
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The demon is your ego and you're having an out-of-body experience, ie. transferring to another level of reality.
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I disagree. I saw the same room, exactly and my spirit being lifted up with no conscience control and a force/being that was evil and terror that one can't match at Halloween or horror movies, and whatever it was did it's best, it's, not he or she as no body but sure as hell wanted mine.
Speak for yourself and your own life experiences. Assumptions make an ass of yourself.
Just meaning don't assume for other people. You have more allies and power within than a trillion of them. They all what they can't have which is your body.
Use confusion and make one feel a sense of powerless but I gave that to them from low self-esteem which and a feeling of worthlessness and holy shit they feed on it.
So not putting you down and I use humor to cope with life, and poems, and creative ways including journalism that is not fake but, wow, some people still give a shit about integrity and the world and saying the truth about it even having everything taken away from them from those with "power" which, no.
Sellouts and fake people. Why I like the shroomery. Many have taken plants, fungi, lsd, dmt, and see right through it and I have tapered it down over time as it teaches and then I get it but a reminder to me is great when I need one.
Realizing I don't need to take it out on people. My life has been difficult but I just feel happy now but am learning to do it in a better way, more progressive and productive.
Basically been on the shroomery for over a decade and most think I am an asshole which is justified. I live in Utah, great hub for travel as it is rough here and not easy yet Delta, love it as it is there hub so cheap travel and I get to go to Denver especially.
Point being, I can do better in the way I treat people. Not a kumbala just, I know so much occult shit on each sides including Aleister and masons and saints, you have to call them that here, and temples as have been to many.
Quite sure what I know what I want in life. And for now going to do some game and hike the PCT off an Amtrak in August with no return ticket. Not in a never coming home way but a freedom to it. But yeah, I don't delve into the dark shit anymore and can process any of it.
Voodoo just no, only thing that creeps me out but sleep paralysis I have no fear of anymore. And they know it and leave me alone with out jacking off massively before bedtime to take them on and show my strength and pour fucking salt around my bed. Shit.
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Re: Sleep Paralysis Demons [Re: Barnaby]
#28369682 - 06/22/23 05:39 AM (7 months, 3 days ago) |
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Re: Sleep Paralysis Demons [Re: Barnaby]
#28370307 - 06/22/23 03:02 PM (7 months, 2 days ago) |
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Thought stopping and sensory deprivation are steps to forming a trance.
During which time, a reserve of energy is thought to be processed or absorbed.
Depending on your religious leanings, there is no difference between tantric, mental, spiritual, life, and EM energies. People used weird sex practices as a form of magic, and the sexually-frustrated were blamed for poltergeist effects.
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I've had the experiences fully awake 
One night before falling asleep I was staying at a friend's house and my door completely slammed shut out of nowhere, I saw a black snake mist of smoke slither into the corner of the room and then behind my head, which strangled me in fear - it then went right out through the door and started turning on the dishwasher and washing machine. Next morning I told my friend and he apologized about his mom who recently deceased
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I once saw a cat walking on the ceiling of a Pentecostal household. Plain as day. Except, I was the only one. I said, now, it is trying to escape through the air conditioner vents. Then, they started rattling and fell on the floor.
In the state of mind between sleeping and waking. No stimulants or overthinking were involved on my part, whatsoever. Exact opposite.
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Re: Sleep Paralysis Demons [Re: Barnaby]
#28376094 - 06/27/23 04:37 AM (6 months, 29 days ago) |
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I know your right. Yeah I see Kurt at the beginning of this Nirvan, doubt he is in it, at the start of a dream. Fuck off Kurt!
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Re: Sleep Paralysis Demons [Re: Barnaby] 1
#28377193 - 06/27/23 11:15 PM (6 months, 28 days ago) |
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I think humans create the demons we encountered, meaning they're just creations rising from our shadow side that need to be integrated into our waking consciousness so that we can become better individuals.
I think the "demons" one might encounter from sleep paralysis are just things your brain is creating because you're struggling to wake up and in doing so your brain creates a "dark evil thing" because it's feeling you struggle and sleep is associated with the unconscious mind and dreaming so you manifest something dark and evil because it feels that way in that type of situation (struggling in the dark).
I wouldn't worry about it.
If everything is an emanation of consciousness then all the darkness is not to be feared since it's coming from the same source that we are.
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Re: Sleep Paralysis Demons [Re: Lucis]
#28377225 - 06/27/23 11:48 PM (6 months, 28 days ago) |
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Quote:
See if you see the black hat man.
If you're in that visionary, mental state, ley lines look like rushing traffic.
There are train stations, and they board ghost trains.
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Lucis said: I think humans create the demons we encountered, meaning they're just creations rising from our shadow side that need to be integrated into our waking consciousness so that we can become better individuals.:
imhblo, manifestations seem to create equal but opposite reactions akin to Schrodinger's cat or an electrical potential.
There is generally a Kaiju, or scapegoat, or fury that has to be controlled in order to keep some kind of mania from erupting at random.
In parallel or pocket universes are common utilities or social institutions, like in consensus reality, which serve analagous needs to keep the order.
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Re: Sleep Paralysis Demons [Re: Barnaby]
#28384123 - 07/03/23 07:34 PM (6 months, 22 days ago) |
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I like the original video and just rewatching it. Makes me laugh. So many just boring people on the shroomery. Which is amazing since, THE SHROOMERY. Would think more creative and imaginative people posting on it and not Altamont and the Hells Angels.
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Re: Sleep Paralysis Demons [Re: Barnaby]
#28384136 - 07/03/23 07:43 PM (6 months, 22 days ago) |
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I'm not mean to people. They put me up to it.
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How did you enjoy Indy and the gonaria and diarria? Please give a review when you wake up in the morning. 
What did you think of Phoebe?
Did she hold you down with no choice, and, I JUST HAVE TO SEE HOW THIS PLAYS OUT IN MY BED!
Joking aside. Man in the hat scares me. Because what I have seen by choice from sleep deprivation, much different thing from meth and occultism, which these people just went into heavy shitty drug use for awhile, never saw him.
Really would make a great movie instead of the shit they put out for the most part nowadays.
Once again, that is the thing, one feels completely void of any power to oneself and is fear where that is done. No faith or belief within, the lessening of the will to levels that are really fucked up.
I like to joke but one experience is enough. Is not something words really do anything to express it except the room was exactly the same, was like what ever that fear and and evil force was basically trying to recreate the death experience is my best guess, and I could see it all but had no power as at that time I felt low self esteem, like shit from a shit parents divorce at an early age and that level of pain and weakness, really don't need to explain it but shit whatever it is, it was always trying to get possession of my body.
With rituals and so forth. Not for that but is hypnotic but really dumb thinking of it. From that beings/power/demons. It is so idiotic and WEAK.
It is amusing to me now. But shit I was close to finally giving my body and soul over to garbage. Long time ago. But that is why this video made me laugh. One doesn't need a religion. You are holy just being born. Deep I know but with that comes a sacredness, not a stupid abortion debate, but one needs nothing but what is within.
The kingdom of heaven is within. I am not sure if Jesus ever existed or reading Gaiman all the Gods but I do know that I have allies and endless guidance when needed through my life. And holy shit have I tested it and still do, within reason.
So wake up. Never got that until I did from the movie Waking Life but am getting it. Broke off my relation with Mormon mom today from her domineering and controlling nature. Make a narrative for anyone you come across in life and then put your energy, money, religious power behind it with fakeness.
Many wonder why I still post on the shroomery. Or travel so much. Eyes to see, lol. Strange how psychedelics open that up. You want to use dogmatic scripture? Know thyself. Sounds ancient, doesn't it and some great stories.
Sleep paralysis. God/life so many are so full of shit, I will repeat and no matter the insights and experiences one has in life will always want to make one feel like shit, especially with religions.
Nothing has more power than what is within anyone. It is just waking them up to it. Not to garbage. We are taught 1/3rd chose not have a body, not an abortion issue as I have not judgement one way or the other, just if you do, know how easy it is to get rid of that demon/dark side/ power.
Not complicated. Already wrote an essay just people/society are endlessly being conditioned to give their wills away to nothing that matters. Wake up. Or don't. One can't rely on the psychedelics for a lifetime. A tune up from now and then does some good.
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Re: Sleep Paralysis Demons [Re: Barnaby]
#28384334 - 07/04/23 01:21 AM (6 months, 22 days ago) |
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Blood sugar baby, sex magick she has it. Red Hott Chili Peppers.
Not advocating it, but I kind of get it now. Really drinking blood from one girlfriend with a hidden pentagram underneath the mattress is reallly just dumb. As is drinking cutting and sucking blood from cuts.
And smearing blood in one's face and sitting in a bathtub pitch black waiting to see if one sees anything. Dumb.
I know I could now. But no reason to as their is nothing to be gained. I find it amusing, we broke up and we went after a Hari Krishna cerimony like Jane's addiction type thing but I went by myself and she was with a very pathetic man. We sat at the tables like in Catholic churches and she expected me to just be back with her because of the dancing and fun beforehand.
It was quite fun. Really, Spanish Fork Utah and that celebbration party is awesome. Also saw Rage against the machine in a Rodea venue, can't make this shit up, yet she knows I will always love her.
Those types of women that always need to be with a man. Have met many and it just becomes solitude is the best company and I will fuck along the way.
On. To mount the great lady of Mt. Shasta and if aliens or native american women, god they are beautiful want to hang out, up for it, but greys really suck. Never fuck a grey, It destroys within, guessing DNA as they are weak and why I ever chose to do that,was a stupid mistake. The change of DNA to losing what I spent lifetimes for that will probably never get back.
On to the spirit world. Is not like a dumb hooror movie though have been with some. Just, it can fuck with one beyond our short term here and that is my fear as well as some other things but not going to get into it.
On with life. i conjure shit as they put it constantly for many different reasons yet bounderies. The only occult thing I don't fuck with is voodoo. Nothing positive in it.
Trip reports and a DMT Lover post. I lowered myself to a grey fro ignorance. DNA, it fucks with it.
Really, DMT lover or people that have sex with ghosts like Halsey. One can do it, actually cummed a bit but it felt really off with the grey. With romans from Caesar times felt fine and not just sex. Just communication grid thoughout all time that DMT showed me and I used it for other things.
Have a girlfriend now again. It is enough. Not messing with this stuff for awhile but it really changes everything. Connection to everything and one sees it in day to day life. Somethings in mortal life I don't want to know but what I do know. In 10 years the world as we know it will be greatly for the worse changed.
I don't really care.
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Re: Sleep Paralysis Demons [Re: Barnaby]
#28398083 - 07/16/23 07:27 PM (6 months, 9 days ago) |
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Shit still makes me laugh. Enjoy night shroomery people and don't trust everything you see.
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