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Re: Announcing OXY TEK β I replaced all water in the grow with 3% hydrogen peroxide [Re: Hysteria]
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Re: Announcing OXY TEK β I replaced all water in the grow with 3% hydrogen peroxide [Re: Screwup] 1
#28397429 - 07/16/23 09:36 AM (6 months, 10 days ago) |
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Hysteria said: This is not a troll. I've known some hackers very similar to this. They would absolutely hack into a junction box and live off the side of the highway if they had to. Hack a nearby wireless AP for internet. Not saying she is "a hacker" (but she probably is), but she 100% has the hacker mindset. They are not all like that. I've also met some that were very wealthy and just liked to play around. I see someone here with a highly active, intelligent mind, that unfortunately has a lot of other "stuff" going on up there, and it is sad to me, even if it isn't sad to her and she doesn't get why I would be. I don't think it's intentional or a ploy. Ok so, now that my poor attempt at playing amatuer psychologist is complete, my advice to Jess_Fukket is the same as everybody else's. Put aside your need to tinker with everything until you've mastered the basics here on this site. You really wanna learn about the life cycle of these babies? Read about and master agar teks on this site. You will love it, and it will give you lots of insight into how mycelium behaves. The main benefit of doing that will be your new found ability to grow super clean mycelium in an agar dish, sectoring away from contaminants transfer by transfer before you even put it in grain. Once you have that, learn how to properly steriliize a recommended grain (Pennington's Classic wild bird seed is cheap at walmart and works great) and add your clean mycelium to it. Once you have clean spawn that is colonized, you can stop worrying about having to babysit your grow and worrying about contamination the whole time. Just add it to plain old coco coir that has been hydrated to field capacity and leave it alone until the mushrooms come. Simple. If you haven't seen pins popping up after about 12-14 days with most varieties that's usually not a good sign, by the way. Some do take longer, though. Good luck.
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Re: Announcing OXY TEC! I replaced all water in the grow with 3% hydrogen peroxide [Re: Jess_Fukket] 1
#28397433 - 07/16/23 09:44 AM (6 months, 10 days ago) |
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Whatever you do, donβt do anything unless the shroomery members agree upon it. How dare you do anything? Thats a hanging offense.
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Re: Announcing OXY TEK β I replaced all water in the grow with 3% hydrogen peroxide [Re: SirPsycho]
#28397438 - 07/16/23 09:47 AM (6 months, 10 days ago) |
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Yeah, you're right. I shouldn't try to understand where people are coming from and offer advice. I said it's not a troll because I don't believe it is. Have you ever met someone with real autism?
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Re: Announcing OXY TEC! I replaced all water in the grow with 3% hydrogen peroxide [Re: MadSeasonStudent]
#28397441 - 07/16/23 09:48 AM (6 months, 10 days ago) |
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Lmfao, ain't no one stopping you. But when you post about the dumb shit you're doing on the internet people are gonna point it out. Don't want opinions that disagree with you? Don't post on public forums. Easy. Now throw your fucking big boy pants on.
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Re: Announcing OXY TEK β I replaced all water in the grow with 3% hydrogen peroxide [Re: Hysteria]
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Re: Announcing OXY TEK β I replaced all water in the grow with 3% hydrogen peroxide [Re: Hysteria]
#28397443 - 07/16/23 09:49 AM (6 months, 10 days ago) |
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Hysteria said: Yeah, you're right. I shouldn't try to understand where people are coming from and offer advice. I said it's not a troll because I don't believe it is. Have you ever met someone with real autism?
I never said I think it's a troll nor do I question their autism.
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Re: Announcing OXY TEC! I replaced all water in the grow with 3% hydrogen peroxide [Re: SirPsycho]
#28397445 - 07/16/23 09:51 AM (6 months, 10 days ago) |
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Wait, are you telling me to put my big boy pants on? I never defended her mushroom growing techniques. I just tried to help because I don't believe it was a troll.
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Re: Announcing OXY TEC! I replaced all water in the grow with 3% hydrogen peroxide [Re: Hysteria] 1
#28397446 - 07/16/23 09:53 AM (6 months, 10 days ago) |
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Hysteria said: Wait, are you telling me to put my big boy pants on? I never defended her mushroom growing techniques. I just tried to help because I don't believe it was a troll.
No, that was to MadSeasonStudent
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Re: Announcing OXY TEC! I replaced all water in the grow with 3% hydrogen peroxide [Re: Jess_Fukket] 3
#28397679 - 07/16/23 12:39 PM (6 months, 9 days ago) |
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Given that you have clearly stated that your intention is to conduct an experiment and learn from your failure there is absolutely no reason that you cannot post your results and ask for input.
Due to the general attitude and flow of the cultivation board being designed and directed to help you succeed in getting actual fruits (being mushrooms) from your labor, you must understand that many of the replies will likely be directed at pointing out the fact that there are much easier ways that have been proven over the years by thousands of people preforming thousands if not millions of grows.
Also, for future reference you must include a STAL option in any polls you post or face the possibility of having your thread locked.
There is already some information about hydrogen peroxide floating around the board and I would suggest you use the search function to find it and compare your learnings.
Good luck, because I believe that is likely the only way you will get any fruits, and welcome to the shoormery.
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Re: Announcing OXY TEC! I replaced all water in the grow with 3% hydrogen peroxide [Re: Throwaway]
#28397802 - 07/16/23 02:44 PM (6 months, 9 days ago) |
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12% doesn't sterilize, it sanitizes.
Ahh, that explains why my grow is a disgusting septic mess instead of solid mycelia!
> Why would you ever hamper your grow
how does it hamper my grow? It's growing fantastically. why do you say that it's not?
> by using (slightly) toxic water
3% is not toxic to mycelia at all. it only kills bacteria and spores. that's well established in the literature. Why do you say that it hurts mushrooms?
> Using normal water works great,
Unless bacteria live in it and colonize your substrate. that's what happens in normal water. Peroxide doesn't do that.
see?
> and you can't ever convince me or anyone here mushrooms do better with 3% H2O2 instead of normal water.
Why not? they're certainly doing it least as well. I'd like for someone to tell me how long it usually takes for a tray to turn into solid mycelia.
You don't like the way I phrase things because I'm autistic-- childishly enthusiastic. so you're just gonna believe something that's not true: that my grow is failing..
Except it's fine. How do you explain that? why is it not OK for this to...
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Re: Announcing OXY TEC! I replaced all water in the grow with 3% hydrogen peroxide [Re: Jess_Fukket] 1
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Re: Announcing OXY TEC! I replaced all water in the grow with 3% hydrogen peroxide [Re: Jess_Fukket]
#28397805 - 07/16/23 02:53 PM (6 months, 9 days ago) |
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Jess_Fukket said: It's growing fantastically. why do you say that it's not?
But you haven't even finished growing? You just have a thick mat of mycelium according to your own words. "A thick mat of mycelium" isn't even what's considered good growth. Why would you write out all of this into a "TEK" without having done a successful grow yourself?
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Re: Announcing OXY TEC! I replaced all water in the grow with 3% hydrogen peroxide [Re: Jess_Fukket] 1
#28397808 - 07/16/23 02:56 PM (6 months, 9 days ago) |
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Jess_Fukket said: You can also see cigarette butts in here.
Ok nvm I'm done
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Re: Announcing OXY TEC! I replaced all water in the grow with 3% hydrogen peroxide [Re: Jess_Fukket]
#28397826 - 07/16/23 03:07 PM (6 months, 9 days ago) |
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Jess_Fukket said: 12% doesn't sterilize, it sanitizes.
Ahh, that explains why my grow is a disgusting septic mess instead of solid mycelia!
Nice attempt at sarcasm but that is septic mess. Hell I've seen burst septic tanks less disgusting
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Re: Announcing OXY TEC! I replaced all water in the grow with 3% hydrogen peroxide [Re: Throwaway]
#28397831 - 07/16/23 03:11 PM (6 months, 9 days ago) |
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> "A thick mat of mycelium" isn't even what's considered good growth.
That's the kind of information I'm trying to get out of people. I ask that in three posts, but nobody ever answered. they don't give information, they just get angry.
What else could you have before fruiting EXCEPT a thick mat of mycelium?
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Re: Announcing OXY TEC! I replaced all water in the grow with 3% hydrogen peroxide [Re: Jess_Fukket] 1
#28397836 - 07/16/23 03:12 PM (6 months, 9 days ago) |
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Jess_Fukket said: > "A thick mat of mycelium" isn't even what's considered good growth.
That's the kind of information I'm trying to get out of people. I ask that in three posts, but nobody ever answered. they don't give information, they just get angry.
What else could you have before fruiting EXCEPT a thick mat of mycelium?
Here you go home girl
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Re: Announcing OXY TEC! I replaced all water in the grow with 3% hydrogen peroxide [Re: Screwup]
#28397846 - 07/16/23 03:26 PM (6 months, 9 days ago) |
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It's like talking to somebody who insists that Trump won the election.
you predict I'm going to kill my grow, but it doesnt die. It didn't contam. it didn't get bleached to death.
you predict this isn't going to work, but it's working great. and while people are long on insults and contempt, no one has given a single reason why 3% peroxide is going to kill my grow.
I can feel the eee-ville and hate welling up in you when you talk. But your words don't contain any information at all about how come Peroxide won't work, or surprise that it's working fine.
Why is that?
It's that you JUST don't like the way autistic people are! We talk strange. We use big words. We spout information instead of having conversations. We KNOW stuff.
And we get ganged up on at playgrounds.
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Re: Announcing OXY TEC! I replaced all water in the grow with 3% hydrogen peroxide [Re: Jess_Fukket] 3
#28397849 - 07/16/23 03:29 PM (6 months, 9 days ago) |
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Jess_Fukket said: I can feel the eee-ville and hate welling up in you when you talk.
Weren't you too autistic to notice anything other than pure information a couple of hours ago
Anyways, writing out an entire TEK based on something you haven't even seen all the way through yourself is just bad form. Imagine changing a car tire and going to a car forum telling people how they should use olive oil to smear their engines because you're a now a certified mechanic. One that also uses cigarette buds in their carburetor to because ash aids the lubrication.
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Re: Announcing OXY TEC! I replaced all water in the grow with 3% hydrogen peroxide [Re: Jess_Fukket] 3
#28397850 - 07/16/23 03:31 PM (6 months, 9 days ago) |
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Because hydrogen peroxide inhibits cell mitosis, which is literally how mycelium grows.
Hydrogen peroxide is a topical anti-fungal, you're trying to grow a fungus.
Hydrogen peroxide isn't gonna kill your grow, your inexistent sterile work practices and the mold they lead to will.
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