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Re: I get these intense feelings [Re: Pinkerton]
#28396390 - 07/15/23 11:54 AM (6 months, 11 days ago) |
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weird is good, relax
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Re: I get these intense feelings [Re: Pinkerton] 1
#28396474 - 07/15/23 01:01 PM (6 months, 11 days ago) |
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feeling weird is good, being weird is dumb
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Standing out from the crowd is rarely dumb.
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Re: I get these intense feelings [Re: Pinkerton]
#28396484 - 07/15/23 01:12 PM (6 months, 11 days ago) |
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Depends on what's standing out.
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Re: I get these intense feelings [Re: Rahz]
#28396526 - 07/15/23 01:43 PM (6 months, 11 days ago) |
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Give me an example where standing out is something negative. I am not saying you cannot do it.
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I meant it playfully, as in bust-up really meaning bringing awareness to whatever's happening can also act like a catalyst to the change of whatever's happening, not that it wouldn't always be changing already anyways, gnome saying? But yeah, you're right. 
anyways.
wrt pinky's latest question, i could give a million examples.
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how about standing out while in a lineup for the firing squad?
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Not sure what you mean, can you elaborate your question?
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Re: I get these intense feelings [Re: Pinkerton]
#28396552 - 07/15/23 01:56 PM (6 months, 11 days ago) |
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Pinky said: Give me an example where standing out is something negative.
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The Blind Ass said: how about standing out while in a lineup facing a firing squad?
There's an endless variety of situations in which it could be considered unfortunate to be the one standing out, about, and above the rest of your fellows.
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I still do not understand your question, I have tried to translate to Norwegian but it is not translating enough for me to understand.
Would you please provide another question?
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Re: I get these intense feelings [Re: Pinkerton]
#28396562 - 07/15/23 02:04 PM (6 months, 11 days ago) |
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fuggetaboutit
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When you are standing out it is only you. Freedom.
Unfortunately we are socially conditioned to not stand out.
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Re: I get these intense feelings [Re: Pinkerton]
#28396712 - 07/15/23 04:47 PM (6 months, 10 days ago) |
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Pinkerton said: Give me an example where standing out is something negative. I am not saying you cannot do it.
Jim Jones, Charles Manson, David Koresh, Marshall Applewhite off the top of my head.
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Re: I get these intense feelings [Re: Rahz]
#28397015 - 07/15/23 11:22 PM (6 months, 10 days ago) |
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the feeling that 'everthing feels so real'
get ready for it
is the feeling that everything feels so real
I don't know it since I can't feel what you feel, even if I have a feeling that I would name the same thing
the meaning of it that you may find is simply the meaning of it that you may find. what is underneath that feeling? only you could find whats underneath that feeling since only you feel it
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Re: I get these intense feelings [Re: Rahz]
#28397123 - 07/16/23 03:01 AM (6 months, 10 days ago) |
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Rahz said:
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Pinkerton said: Give me an example where standing out is something negative. I am not saying you cannot do it.
Jim Jones, Charles Manson, David Koresh, Marshall Applewhite off the top of my head.
Did they really stand out or were they just a part of the system?
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Re: I get these intense feelings [Re: Pinkerton]
#28397206 - 07/16/23 05:55 AM (6 months, 10 days ago) |
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They really stood out.
By part of the system what do you mean? Isn't everything interconnected?
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Re: I get these intense feelings [Re: Rahz]
#28397282 - 07/16/23 07:32 AM (6 months, 10 days ago) |
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They were products of society, all of their ideas originated from society.
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Re: I get these intense feelings [Re: Pinkerton]
#28397295 - 07/16/23 07:45 AM (6 months, 10 days ago) |
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You asked for an example. I gave you several. They certainly stood out. Now you're changing the metric.
Is there anything new under the Sun?
I remember a friend who as a young man was feeling full of himself, threw his hands out and proclaimed that he was the next evolution.
Hubris doesn't last unless one has enough money to insulate themselves from the world.
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Re: I get these intense feelings [Re: Rahz]
#28397521 - 07/16/23 10:55 AM (6 months, 10 days ago) |
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Rahz said:
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Pinkerton said: Give me an example where standing out is something negative. I am not saying you cannot do it.
Jim Jones, Charles Manson, David Koresh, Marshall Applewhite off the top of my head.
They all had crowd btw.
You have yet to counter my argument:
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Pinkerton said: They were products of society, all of their ideas originated from society.
System and society are intertwined.
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Rahz said: I remember a friend who as a young man was feeling full of himself, threw his hands out and proclaimed that he was the next evolution.
You spew arrogance, as if me and this young man are somehow alike. The way you squeezed in the "young man"-phrase makes me think you feel insecure.
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Re: I get these intense feelings [Re: Pinkerton] 1
#28397606 - 07/16/23 11:57 AM (6 months, 10 days ago) |
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You spew arrogance, as if me and this young man are somehow alike. The way you squeezed in the "young man"-phrase makes me think you feel insecure.
The only reason the individuals I mentioned stood out was because they were on the far end of fucked up. They were products of society like we all are. That they wanted to create their own society, wanted to be special, wanted to stick out, stand out, whatever you want to call it didn't make them better people.
But people with messianic complexes are a dime a dozen. It's all common. Wanting to stand out is a matter of hubris and is common. It's good to have a handful of good friends. Beyond that I don't gaf who has crowd. What would be impressive would be getting off that trip.
Being common, there's a shared sense of struggle. Don't have to hide that we're all mortals doing the best we can to fly without our wings constantly melting off.
And the friend I mentioned was a young man at the time, and such behavior is more common in youth. Common. And yes it did remind me of you.
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